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3D printers dont care if you don't like guns. (Original Post) TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 OP
Yes, if you only spend 100x the cost of a gun, you can print a gun. jeff47 Jun 2015 #1
Really? So this plastic gun firing 600 rounds is CGI? TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #3
Psst...only the white part is 3d-printed. jeff47 Jun 2015 #4
LOL... Spazito Jun 2015 #5
And your point? You can buy those parts easily. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #6
Currently, 3d-printed barrels foul after only a few shots. jeff47 Jun 2015 #11
You can buy ALL the parts much too easily. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #22
right, but that is the only BATFE controlled part. Everything else can be mail ordered or ... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #17
Under current law. The OP's not trying to argue about current law jeff47 Jun 2015 #19
Odd that we're the only first-world nation with astronomical gun violence rates then. DanTex Jun 2015 #2
They seem to understand that as the technology spreads, its only a matter of time. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #8
Tell you what. Let's adopt UK style rules and save tens of thousands of lives per DanTex Jun 2015 #10
Never going to happen. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #13
Probably true. Too many Americans think that easy access to guns is more valuable than DanTex Jun 2015 #15
You're conflating two completely different things. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #26
Then there is always the less polarizing bomb. nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #7
Interestingly enough, 3D printers also don't care if one promotes an agenda on DU LanternWaste Jun 2015 #9
Oddly enough, explosives can be manufactured with common household chemicals. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #12
Why would they need to? A gun is easy to buy or make. TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #14
Thanks for proving my point. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #18
The Day Abraham Blew Himself Up at Emmanuel Baptist Church FrodosPet Jun 2015 #23
And gun owners rejoice because Skidmore Jun 2015 #16
So they've come up with a new way to make zip guns. Yawn. jmowreader Jun 2015 #20
Oh bother. hunter Jun 2015 #21
Right or wrong, meaningful gun control is not going to happen in this country. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #24
This truly is the dumbest of all the gunner nonsense alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #25
That seems a bit of a contradiction. beevul Jun 2015 #27

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
1. Yes, if you only spend 100x the cost of a gun, you can print a gun.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:39 PM
Jun 2015

And they're even up to a printed gun that can fire four shots now!

Somehow, I think the "real" guns are a bit more of a problem.

Did you know that lots of high-end color printers run software that refuses to accurately print currency? Golly, I wonder if such a thing could be adapted to 3d printing....

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
3. Really? So this plastic gun firing 600 rounds is CGI?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jun 2015

Of course this wont ever be a problem (he says not looking 5 years into the future).



TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
6. And your point? You can buy those parts easily.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jun 2015

And on the outside chance, they did outlaw other parts, pretty much the rest of it can be printed or made easily.

https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ar15+parts

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Currently, 3d-printed barrels foul after only a few shots.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:03 PM
Jun 2015

So no, the rest of it can not be printed or made easily.

Also, firing chambers are a problem, but the barrel fails first.

aikoaiko

(34,173 posts)
17. right, but that is the only BATFE controlled part. Everything else can be mail ordered or ...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jun 2015

..,picked up a flea market with cash.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. Under current law. The OP's not trying to argue about current law
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jun 2015

but attempting to cut off any further attempts at gun control.

(Btw, before this goes further, I don't support banning parts.)

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. Odd that we're the only first-world nation with astronomical gun violence rates then.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015

You'd think that with these 3D-printed guns, people in the UK and Canada and Europe and Australia and Japan would be shooting each other just as much as Americans.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
10. Tell you what. Let's adopt UK style rules and save tens of thousands of lives per
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jun 2015

year until this 3D-gun things takes off. I'm betting it never will. But even if it does, there are still many thousands of lives to be saved in the mean time.

And besides, if the 3D-gun thing is so easy, I'm sure you won't mind having to print your gun rather than buying one at the store.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
13. Never going to happen.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

The culture in the U.S. is far different than the U.K.

Do you REALLY think Texas or other like state is going to allow anything like that? Yes, Maybe in New York or LA, but never in West Virgina or Utah. You can get that out of your pretty little head right now.

By the time you made any culture change, everyone would have a 3D printer on their desk and a gun is a click away.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. Probably true. Too many Americans think that easy access to guns is more valuable than
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jun 2015

the tens of thousands of people killed every year. So instead of sensible gun laws, we have mass shootings.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
26. You're conflating two completely different things.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jun 2015

"Is it going to happen?" and "Would it be a good thing if it happened?" are two completely different questions. Both of them are very easy to answer - the answers are "definitely not" and "definitely", respectively.

So don't fret, thousands of Americans are going to go on dying needlessly every year, but no-one is going to take your gun away.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Interestingly enough, 3D printers also don't care if one promotes an agenda on DU
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:01 PM
Jun 2015

Interestingly enough, 3D printers also don't care if one promotes a hidden agenda on DU, regardless of wind direction and genies.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
12. Oddly enough, explosives can be manufactured with common household chemicals.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

I don't see a lot of bathtub bombs going off all over the place.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
14. Why would they need to? A gun is easy to buy or make.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jun 2015

Also, ask yourself. If this kid who shot up a church didn't have that gun handy, you really don't think he wouldn't have done exactly that... Made some home-made bomb and tossed it in? He was crazy, and he aimed to do crazy things. Not much was going to stop him unless someone knew in advance of the plans.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. The Day Abraham Blew Himself Up at Emmanuel Baptist Church
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jun 2015
http://brucegerencser.net/2015/04/the-day-abraham-blew-himself-up-at-emmanuel-baptist-church/

~ snip ~

In the 1970’s, Emmanuel Baptist Church was a large church, one of the largest churches in the United States. The church ran buses all over the Pontiac/Detroit area. During my time at Emmanuel, the church operated 80 buses.

One of the bus riders was a young man name Abraham.

Abraham was a walking contradiction. He was a brilliant, crazy, mentally ill young man.

~ snip ~

One day there was an explosion at the church. Abraham had built a bomb and brought to church. He carried the bomb into the restroom and, whether accidentally or on purpose, the bomb detonated. It was the last strange thing Abraham ever did. The bomb blew Abraham to bits. One man who helped clean up the mess said bits and pieces of Abraham fell from the drop ceiling.

~ snip ~

[hr]
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/30/us/police-say-bomb-in-a-church-may-have-been-planted-in-79.html

Police Say Bomb in a Church May Have Been Planted in '79
AP
Published: April 30, 1985

PONTIAC, Mich., April 29— A homemade bomb found in a church and detonated by the police was probably planted six years ago by a man who died in a 1979 bomb explosion there, the authorities said Sunday.

A maintenance worker spotted the pipe bomb Saturday above a ceiling panel in the basement recreation area of Emmanuel Baptist Church, said Sgt. Gary Johnston of the Pontiac police.

He said the bomb was probably placed there by Abraham Roberts, who was killed in October 1979 when a bomb he was handling in the church exploded and blew out a wall.

Mr. Roberts, who was 25 years old, was a member of the church who had a history of mental problems and apparently made the bombs in retaliation for being barred from worship services because he was disruptive, Sergeant Johnston said.

~ snip ~

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
16. And gun owners rejoice because
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jun 2015

the future of killing others has been saved and they are made better people for it. Thre is no purpose for thatcgun han to kill another person.

I am weary to the bone of seeing all the ways weaponry and the mayhem they inflict are justified.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
21. Oh bother.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jun 2015

This is the U.S.A..

You don't need to make a gun yourself, the market is saturated with them.

It's easier to get a gun in the U.S.A. than it is to get a gram of cannabis.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. Right or wrong, meaningful gun control is not going to happen in this country.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:38 PM
Jun 2015

So it's pretty much a moot argument anyway.

If we couldn't get the most modest sort of background check legislation through after a school full of 6 year olds was shot up... it's just not going to happen.

The people arguing over it- from all sides- are fairly well wasting their time.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
25. This truly is the dumbest of all the gunner nonsense
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jun 2015

Plenty of shit that's easy to produce is regulated and/or illegal. It's trivially easy to make methamphetamine, for instance, from a chemical point of view. It's easy to grow cannabis. Nevertheless, you get caught doing it and you're going to prison in many states.

Here's how simple it is: you 3D print a gun, you go to federal prison for five years.

Of course, we won't pass that law because the Congress and 100 million dupes are complete tools of the gun manufacturers, but the fact that one can 3D print a gun is neither here nor there.

How fucking stupid are these people?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
27. That seems a bit of a contradiction.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

Of course, we won't pass that law because the Congress and 100 million dupes are complete tools of the gun manufacturers, but the fact that one can 3D print a gun is neither here nor there.


That seems a bit of a contradiction.

3D printing of gun parts seems like it would hurt the bottom line of the manufacturers, not help it.

This seems like it would be a gift to manufacturers:


Here's how simple it is: you 3D print a gun, you go to federal prison for five years.
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