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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDyllan Roof, 21, is suspected Charleston Terrorist.
Confirmed by the FBI:
https://twitter.com/offlede/status/611533108739993600
https://twitter.com/DDpan/status/611533900695928832
linuxman
(2,337 posts)Violent past?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I found his mug shot online.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)You hardly ever get arrested for something like that, unless it's quite serious.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Note the link to "record removal".
peace13
(11,076 posts).....
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Someone named their kid Storm Roof?
These white people and the crazy names they come up with for their kids... smh.
I hope he is taken soon and without further violence.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)His facebook isn't "open" but you can see his friends and a creepy/pouty picture of him in the woods....
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)lpbk2713
(42,760 posts)Nah.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Puddy
(51 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)So young to be that full of hate.
MADem
(135,425 posts)21 years old, and his life is over. Talk about a sack of hate and fail.
I thought it was a wig
PCIntern
(25,557 posts)malaise
(269,067 posts)I'm clueless
You know... white people have those weird hairdos and commit violent crimes.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Rather than having their hair thinned and styled like a barbershop might do, mama slaps a mixing bowl on their heads and just cuts off the ends. Where I came from in Ohio, we called that a Dunkard Cut cause that's how the old-order religious people that I grew up surrounded by kept their little boys' hair (once they get married, they get to square it off in the back). I've noticed that lots of home-schooled and also born-again fundie types are managing to keep that look alive, nowadays.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Like John Deutschendorf, Jr.:
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Kids that were mean to them at school would even call them "moe", which rolled off 'em like water off a duck's back since old german baptist's children had no idea who Moe was.
Dyllan Roof's haircut looks exactly like a Dunkard Cut, except he'd be too old to have one, since if he were old order he'd be married and have it slicked back and squared off...then called a Dunkard Chop. With a hat.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)it looks to have been around at least as long ago as May 21 with photo that is circulating today
He murders 6 black people yet has several among his "friends" on FB
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)The Fab Four cut went out decades ago. Won't see many young men today with that one.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)gotj90
(45 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)gotj90
(45 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Oooof.
d_b
(7,463 posts)edit. dupe.
LeftinOH
(5,355 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)...Confederate flag over the Capitol.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Hally is nothing more than a tool.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I found a discussion thread from 2010 at Stormfront -- I'm not going to link to it, but you can get there easily enough by googling on what I quote.
One poster asks, "If SHTF, then what kind of clothing should we have ready to put on? I don't think it would be a good idea to have military camo because that may make us look too much like federal soldiers. I was thinking dark blue jeans, black boots, black military jacket, black backpack?"
Another answers, "Well, the idea is to blend in with the rest of the populace unless there's some kind of transition. A while a go some people decided to have the Confederate Flag as a patch on some of their gear. Others decided the Rhodesian flag. I'd just keep an eye out for any WN'ist symbology."
The idea of dressing in black as a quasi-uniform with a flag patch as identification sounds very close to the image of the shooter in the photo.
And the context, of course, is the expectation of an all-out race war and/or war against the federal government. Which raises the possibility that the shooter was engaged in a Turner Diaries-style act of inciting such a conflict through an act of mass violence.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)The Turner Diaries is a 1978 novel by William Luther Pierce (founder of the white nationalist organization National Alliance) written under the pseudonym "Andrew Macdonald". The Turner Diaries depicts a violent revolution in the United States which leads to the overthrow of the United States federal government, nuclear war, and, ultimately, to a race war leading to the extermination of all groups deemed by the author as a threat such as Jews, gay people, and non-whites. The book was called "explicitly racist and anti-Semitic" by The New York Times and has been labeled a "bible of the racist right" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The novel has been associated with a number of real-life violent crimes committed by white separatists and other radicals. Two pages of the book containing a scene depicting preparations for the bombing of the J. Edgar Hoover Building, the FBI national headquarters, were found in the getaway car of Timothy McVeigh, the perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Reports are that Roof told one woman in the church he was leaving her alive so she could tell others what had happened. That sounds very agenda-driven.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/08/sikh-a07.html
Much remains murky in relation to the mass shooting Sunday at a Wisconsin Sikh temple that resulted in the death of seven people, including the gunman, and critical wounding of three others. One thing is clear, however: the alleged shooter had a long and deep involvement in white supremacist, neo-Nazi circles.
The ample information about Wade Michael Pages fascist sympathies has been downplayed by the mass media and US officials, and the general theme of media commentary is the search for a motive. The evidence, however, strongly indicates that Pages homicidal rampage against ethnic Indians was driven by a racist and fascist political agenda, defining his crime as an act of right-wing domestic terrorism. . . .
The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a clearinghouse for information on far-right, racist and fascist groups, reported Monday that it had been tracking Page since 2000. In that year he sought to purchase goods from the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group led by William Pierce, the author of The Turner Diaries.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Response to MohRokTah (Reply #20)
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This kid is Afrikaans.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)The Klan, the Creativity Movement, the National Alliance, Sovereign Citizens, Aryan Brotherhood...hatred and guns.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)They are a sham.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)I don't like to use these killer's names any more than can be helped. Some of them enjoy the notoriety.
chalmers
(288 posts)But the "Storm" part makes me think there is some "American Neo-Nazi Party" thrown in.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Roof for sure, but I'm wondering if 'Storm' is a Dutch-ish family name.
chalmers
(288 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Kind of unusual for a US 20 year-old to be bearing a grudge from Transvaal and taking it out here.
chalmers
(288 posts)that I dont understand. Several kids embracing both "rap music" culture and the "hunting culture". Camo hunting gear while throwing pretend gang signs. Its weird.
romanic
(2,841 posts)is fucking scary looking! I'm sorry but he looks like a brain-dead product of incest. D:
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)I hope he can be captured so we can learn more about why he carried out this terrorist act. I suspect, though, that we'll never find out much.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The apartheid South Africa and Rhodesian flags, and the Afrikaans name, tell us a few things.
"I have to do it. You rape our women and youre taking over our country. And you have to go
Not sure whether "our country" was even a reference to the US in context of his apparent identification with Afrikaans symbols.