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Dyllan Roof, 21, is suspected Charleston Terrorist. (Original Post) MohRokTah Jun 2015 OP
Looks to be a mug shot. linuxman Jun 2015 #1
A trespassing charge from April. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #3
Wonder what the details are. linuxman Jun 2015 #6
Hunting? nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #9
Trespassing... haikugal Jun 2015 #5
It also looks like it is from one of those private arrest photo sites jberryhill Jun 2015 #7
Treaspassing... peace13 Jun 2015 #8
Storm Roof? jberryhill Jun 2015 #2
Probably raised in neo-nazism. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #4
A third of his facebook friends are black. MADem Jun 2015 #17
Storm Front immediately came to my mind riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #11
I had a Dylan Storm Roof over a trailer once. lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #13
It does sound like a brand name jberryhill Jun 2015 #38
I think his sister's name is Hail Mary. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #42
Nazi Terrorist Bastard! Puddy Jun 2015 #53
21.... peace13 Jun 2015 #10
That "Moe" haircut wasn't a wig, apparently. MADem Jun 2015 #12
LOL malaise Jun 2015 #19
Pete Rose Wig....nt PCIntern Jun 2015 #33
You'll have to teach me about regional haircuts malaise Jun 2015 #34
Well jberryhill Jun 2015 #39
It's also what could be called a bowl home-haircut. countryjake Jun 2015 #56
Or "Dutch boy" cut jberryhill Jun 2015 #58
Nah, it's more like Moe, right at the ears... countryjake Jun 2015 #59
He has a facebook account NightWatcher Jun 2015 #14
He better get a new "do" HockeyMom Jun 2015 #15
Him? What are the patches he's wearing (Facebook photo)? nc4bo Jun 2015 #16
South Africa apartheid flag on top gotj90 Jun 2015 #18
Good eye! MohRokTah Jun 2015 #23
Can't take credit - I've seen others saying it gotj90 Jun 2015 #25
Racist-era Rhodesia flag below alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #28
top one looks like south african apartheid flag d_b Jun 2015 #24
The top one is the former flag of South Africa (apartheid era). LeftinOH Jun 2015 #27
The green and white one could be the Rhodesian flag... SidDithers Jun 2015 #29
Wow. Just wow. Thanks everyone. nt nc4bo Jun 2015 #30
That IS the old SA flag! Plain as day, too.... nt MADem Jun 2015 #32
Apartheid SA and Rhodesian flags on the jacket... Scurrilous Jun 2015 #50
Nothing like reminding the old south of The Old South, is it? nc4bo Jun 2015 #51
I just did some googling on the Rhodesian flag starroute Jun 2015 #52
Good detective work starroute!! nt nc4bo Jun 2015 #54
Wikipedia on The Turner Diaries starroute Jun 2015 #55
There are parallels to the shooting at the Sikh temple in 2012 starroute Jun 2015 #57
He recieved a .45 gun as a birthday present in April MohRokTah Jun 2015 #20
Sigh......nt nc4bo Jun 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author countryjake Jun 2015 #37
Figures he was brought up in gun culture, racists usually are. Hoyt Jun 2015 #40
Oh, it's deeper than that jberryhill Jun 2015 #47
It's the thing most all white supremists have in common... countryjake Jun 2015 #48
Funny, no word on his ID on the cable "news" networks. We appear to have it before they do. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2015 #21
We are always way ahead of the M$M. Rex Jun 2015 #35
"Charleston Terrorist"--let's refer to him that way. Or else, "the killer," "the murderer." raccoon Jun 2015 #22
This kid is Afrikaans chalmers Jun 2015 #31
Dutch name? jberryhill Jun 2015 #41
Good point chalmers Jun 2015 #43
It will be interesting to find out whether Dad is a dispossessed farmer jberryhill Jun 2015 #45
yes, but looking at the kids facebook freinds there is a weird teen culture in America chalmers Jun 2015 #49
This SOB romanic Jun 2015 #36
I think this will not end well for this creep. MineralMan Jun 2015 #44
We can infer quite a bit jberryhill Jun 2015 #46
 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
6. Wonder what the details are.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

You hardly ever get arrested for something like that, unless it's quite serious.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. It also looks like it is from one of those private arrest photo sites
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

Note the link to "record removal".
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Storm Roof?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jun 2015

Someone named their kid Storm Roof?

These white people and the crazy names they come up with for their kids... smh.

I hope he is taken soon and without further violence.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. A third of his facebook friends are black.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jun 2015

His facebook isn't "open" but you can see his friends and a creepy/pouty picture of him in the woods....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. That "Moe" haircut wasn't a wig, apparently.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

21 years old, and his life is over. Talk about a sack of hate and fail.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
56. It's also what could be called a bowl home-haircut.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jun 2015

Rather than having their hair thinned and styled like a barbershop might do, mama slaps a mixing bowl on their heads and just cuts off the ends. Where I came from in Ohio, we called that a Dunkard Cut cause that's how the old-order religious people that I grew up surrounded by kept their little boys' hair (once they get married, they get to square it off in the back). I've noticed that lots of home-schooled and also born-again fundie types are managing to keep that look alive, nowadays.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
59. Nah, it's more like Moe, right at the ears...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:03 PM
Jun 2015

Kids that were mean to them at school would even call them "moe", which rolled off 'em like water off a duck's back since old german baptist's children had no idea who Moe was.

Dyllan Roof's haircut looks exactly like a Dunkard Cut, except he'd be too old to have one, since if he were old order he'd be married and have it slicked back and squared off...then called a Dunkard Chop. With a hat.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
14. He has a facebook account
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jun 2015
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009674437955

it looks to have been around at least as long ago as May 21 with photo that is circulating today


He murders 6 black people yet has several among his "friends" on FB
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
15. He better get a new "do"
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jun 2015

The Fab Four cut went out decades ago. Won't see many young men today with that one.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
52. I just did some googling on the Rhodesian flag
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:57 AM
Jun 2015

I found a discussion thread from 2010 at Stormfront -- I'm not going to link to it, but you can get there easily enough by googling on what I quote.

One poster asks, "If SHTF, then what kind of clothing should we have ready to put on? I don't think it would be a good idea to have military camo because that may make us look too much like federal soldiers. I was thinking dark blue jeans, black boots, black military jacket, black backpack?"

Another answers, "Well, the idea is to blend in with the rest of the populace unless there's some kind of transition. A while a go some people decided to have the Confederate Flag as a patch on some of their gear. Others decided the Rhodesian flag. I'd just keep an eye out for any WN'ist symbology."

The idea of dressing in black as a quasi-uniform with a flag patch as identification sounds very close to the image of the shooter in the photo.

And the context, of course, is the expectation of an all-out race war and/or war against the federal government. Which raises the possibility that the shooter was engaged in a Turner Diaries-style act of inciting such a conflict through an act of mass violence.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
55. Wikipedia on The Turner Diaries
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jun 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turner_Diaries

The Turner Diaries is a 1978 novel by William Luther Pierce (founder of the white nationalist organization National Alliance) written under the pseudonym "Andrew Macdonald". The Turner Diaries depicts a violent revolution in the United States which leads to the overthrow of the United States federal government, nuclear war, and, ultimately, to a race war leading to the extermination of all groups deemed by the author as a threat such as Jews, gay people, and non-whites. The book was called "explicitly racist and anti-Semitic" by The New York Times and has been labeled a "bible of the racist right" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The novel has been associated with a number of real-life violent crimes committed by white separatists and other radicals. Two pages of the book containing a scene depicting preparations for the bombing of the J. Edgar Hoover Building, the FBI national headquarters, were found in the getaway car of Timothy McVeigh, the perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
57. There are parallels to the shooting at the Sikh temple in 2012
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jun 2015

Reports are that Roof told one woman in the church he was leaving her alive so she could tell others what had happened. That sounds very agenda-driven.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/08/sikh-a07.html

Much remains murky in relation to the mass shooting Sunday at a Wisconsin Sikh temple that resulted in the death of seven people, including the gunman, and critical wounding of three others. One thing is clear, however: the alleged shooter had a long and deep involvement in white supremacist, neo-Nazi circles.

The ample information about Wade Michael Page’s fascist sympathies has been downplayed by the mass media and US officials, and the general theme of media commentary is “the search for a motive.” The evidence, however, strongly indicates that Page’s homicidal rampage against ethnic Indians was driven by a racist and fascist political agenda, defining his crime as an act of right-wing domestic terrorism. . . .

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a clearinghouse for information on far-right, racist and fascist groups, reported Monday that it had been tracking Page since 2000. In that year he sought to purchase goods from the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group led by William Pierce, the author of The Turner Diaries.

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #20)

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
48. It's the thing most all white supremists have in common...
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jun 2015

The Klan, the Creativity Movement, the National Alliance, Sovereign Citizens, Aryan Brotherhood...hatred and guns.



raccoon

(31,111 posts)
22. "Charleston Terrorist"--let's refer to him that way. Or else, "the killer," "the murderer."
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jun 2015

I don't like to use these killer's names any more than can be helped. Some of them enjoy the notoriety.

 

chalmers

(288 posts)
31. This kid is Afrikaans
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jun 2015

But the "Storm" part makes me think there is some "American Neo-Nazi Party" thrown in.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
45. It will be interesting to find out whether Dad is a dispossessed farmer
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jun 2015

Kind of unusual for a US 20 year-old to be bearing a grudge from Transvaal and taking it out here.
 

chalmers

(288 posts)
49. yes, but looking at the kids facebook freinds there is a weird teen culture in America
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jun 2015

that I dont understand. Several kids embracing both "rap music" culture and the "hunting culture". Camo hunting gear while throwing pretend gang signs. Its weird.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
44. I think this will not end well for this creep.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:06 AM
Jun 2015

I hope he can be captured so we can learn more about why he carried out this terrorist act. I suspect, though, that we'll never find out much.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
46. We can infer quite a bit
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jun 2015

The apartheid South Africa and Rhodesian flags, and the Afrikaans name, tell us a few things.

"I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go”

Not sure whether "our country" was even a reference to the US in context of his apparent identification with Afrikaans symbols.
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