Just a reminder, this is what a manhunt looks like when the suspect is Muslim:

[kpete]

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[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Whatever it takes.

They got him.

[AtheistCrusader]

2. Be glad he's not a cop. In LA they shot up blue dodges full of little old ladies

Looking for white Nissan frontiers full of a great big cop killer.

[MohRokTah]

3. When the terrorist is a white supremacist, this is what you get:

[linuxman]

4. WMD in a major metropolitan area by a team of two vs 1 shooter in SC.

Yep. Cuz Muslim.

How many jackboots did you want on the case, BTW?

[LanternWaste]

5. Become even more relevant and compare and contrast deaths in the two instances.

Become even more relevant and compare and contrast deaths in the two instances.

[leveymg]

9. Distinction without a real difference.

Response would be far different if suspects were Muslims or even a Black on White hate crime. You know it.

[linuxman]

10. No, no neccesarily.

Would armored vehicles and fully kitted swat teams numbering in the scores have manifested out of the ground to deal with it? No, because those resources are different for Charleston SC than Boston MA. You know it.

Come to think of it, all the reports and rumors early on in the Boston case indicated white perpetrators. Hmmmmmm. Yes, I do recall that their religious affiliations didn't even come out til near the end. Just a few squad cars before then, right?

You're wrong.

[leveymg]

11. They could have rolled out the Charleston PD M113 APC -- pic -- to search armed white neighborhoods.

This might be very useful for entering gated communities under potential hostile fire from gabled roof tops.



Practically every PD in America now has a DoD surplus armored vehicle. Charleston is no exception. Who's wrong here? Welcome to DU.

[linuxman]

13. That picture is old as hell. based on the equipment, I'm guessing the early to mid 90s.

I doubt they still have it, and I doubt it would even work. I'm sorry google didn't give you more MRAP pics.

Supposing it did, would your scenario have made you feel better?

Were poor muslim/poc neighborhoods bearing the brunt of APC supported searches in Boston? No. No they weren't.

[leveymg]

15. I'm guessing less than 10 years ago, and the M113 has been replaced by something newer and costlier.

Just admit it. Your basic point was that Charleston responded without a display of force because it doesn't have the equipment to do so, as did Boston. You are wrong.

Our point -- and the vast majority will agree -- is that the lockdown of Boston was because the authorities suspected Muslim terrorism. The police response to White, racist terrorists is quite different, apparently. This is yet another example of that difference.

[linuxman]

16. Bullshit and you know it.

I'm done dancing with you. Put up some proof of Charleston's Boston-esque heavy armoured vehicle pool and tactical response units, or admit they don't have parity with Boston.

Secondly, the manhunt with tactical armoured units and swat in house-to house cordons and searches didn't happen until several days after the original incident when the suspects showed their heads and started shooting, allowing police to track them down and confine them to one area after a chase, which then resulted in heavy handed patrols looking for them. Boston wasn't locked down from the get go and you know it. The SWAT shit came after they pinpointed them. Do you know where the shooter from Today's killings is? well boy howdy, you better call the FBI! Nah, fuck it. Lock down the whole city.

Also, the suspects weren't assumed to be any race in particular until days later, when video evidence emerged. Feel free to look at DU from that time frame. In the absence of info on race, this place was CONVINCED it was white guys protesting tax or some shit, given lack of further information.

But hey, cuz Muslims.

Come back with some evidence to back up your claims and we can talk. Til then, have fun in that land of your own creation.

[leveymg]

17. Do you have to get nasty about it? End of discussion. n/t

[Rex]

6. When did they call in the military? Oh right, not a police state just business as usual.

But hey if you are white and a RW militia type, you can point a gun at law enforcement literally ALL DAY LONG.

[napkinz]

12. yep

[Nye Bevan]

7. Here's what it looks like when two white guys escape from prison:

[betsuni]

8. Today saw ABC news

A breathless story about big bad "off-the-charts dangerous" would-be terrorists the FBI arrested. One wanted to blow up a sports event but "didn't know how." Another "lunged" at the FBI with a kitchen knife when the FBI came to arrest him (close-up of the kitchen knife that was called a "butcher" knife). Seven of them arrested. But all of them have foreignish sounding names and are browish so TERRORIST EVERYBODY PANIC. And keep them out of the kitchen for god's sake.

But mass shootings by non-foreignish non-browish men with guns, well, that's different.

[GoneFishin]

14. It's about creating a "them" vs. "us" for Fox News viewers and authoritarian personality types.

Brown people who wear "funny hats" and who call God by another name scare the shit of right wingers and authoritarians, and justify the existence of a police state.