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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts) Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:57 AM Jun 2015

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Charleston Police Chief: "I do believe that this is a hate crime."

Gregory G. Mullen

http://www.charleston-sc.gov/index.aspx?NID=615

"Bomb threat is over"
"Remain Calm and stay in their homes."

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Charleston Police Chief: "I do believe that this is a hate crime." (Original Post) Renew Deal Jun 2015 OP

Mayor: "Anyone who can shoot praying churhgoers commits a hate crime." joshcryer Jun 2015 #1

Obviously, but good that he said it. morningfog Jun 2015 #2

It is good and it clarifies things Renew Deal Jun 2015 #4

Hate and the Second Amendment. RandySF Jun 2015 #3

The #CharlestonShooting suspect is at large & abc radio just said "he might be mentally ill." Here riversedge Jun 2015 #5

Well, sure, if all racist are mentally ill then he was too. nt herding cats Jun 2015 #7

Glad they admitted it early on. herding cats Jun 2015 #6

I had a feeling it'd be a white supremacist shenmue Jun 2015 #8

Did they call him that? herding cats Jun 2015 #9

They didn't say that specifically. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #11

Thank you. herding cats Jun 2015 #12

I could be wrong. It was just my guess. shenmue Jun 2015 #14

Nothing is proven yet Renew Deal Jun 2015 #10

He left open the question Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #13

It can not be 'ruled out' but statistically there are far more hate crimes motivated by bias against Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #16

Looks like we can rule it out now Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #18

This was a hate crime Gothmog Jun 2015 #15

At least. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #17

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)

1. Mayor: "Anyone who can shoot praying churhgoers commits a hate crime."

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:58 AM

Jun 2015

Majorly paraphrased, but yeah.

morningfog

(18,115 posts)

2. Obviously, but good that he said it.

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:58 AM

Jun 2015

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

4. It is good and it clarifies things

Reply to morningfog (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:59 AM

Jun 2015

RandySF

(58,939 posts)

3. Hate and the Second Amendment.

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:59 AM

Jun 2015

What a perfect combination.

riversedge

(70,248 posts)

5. The #CharlestonShooting suspect is at large & abc radio just said "he might be mentally ill." Here

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:03 AM

Jun 2015

Bipartisan Report ?@Bipartisanism 12m12 minutes ago

The #CharlestonShooting suspect is at large & abc radio just said "he might be mentally ill." Here we go. Charleston.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)

7. Well, sure, if all racist are mentally ill then he was too. nt

Reply to riversedge (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:05 AM

Jun 2015

herding cats

(19,565 posts)

6. Glad they admitted it early on.

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:03 AM

Jun 2015

Clementa Pinckney was a good man, doing good work and actually making progress in the goal.

I'm hurting and I'm so damn angry tonight.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

8. I had a feeling it'd be a white supremacist

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:05 AM

Jun 2015

herding cats

(19,565 posts)

9. Did they call him that?

Reply to shenmue (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:06 AM

Jun 2015

I was on the phone during the presser and didn't hear it all.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

11. They didn't say that specifically.

Reply to herding cats (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:06 AM

Jun 2015

herding cats

(19,565 posts)

12. Thank you.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:09 AM

Jun 2015

My aunt was our designated listener and I thought she would have text us if they'd used that terminology.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

14. I could be wrong. It was just my guess.

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:20 AM

Jun 2015

Sorry I did not say that before.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)

10. Nothing is proven yet

Reply to shenmue (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:06 AM

Jun 2015

But it sounds something like that.

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)

13. He left open the question

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:18 AM

Jun 2015

Whether the hate was racial, religious, or both. It seems everyone is automatically assuming the former but this is a church we're talking about so religious motive cannot (yet) be ruled out.

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

16. It can not be 'ruled out' but statistically there are far more hate crimes motivated by bias against

Reply to Man from Pickens (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:53 AM

Jun 2015

the victim's race than against the victim's religion, more than two and a half times more. Additionally, of crimes against religion, most are against Jewish and Muslim people, about 75% of such crimes are against those two groups, each of which has a relatively small us population.

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)

18. Looks like we can rule it out now

Reply to Bluenorthwest (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 12:36 PM

Jun 2015

didn't want to jump to any conclusions, but with the info we got since my previous post it looks like we can now do so.

Gothmog

(145,353 posts)

15. This was a hate crime

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:18 AM

Jun 2015

ladjf

(17,320 posts)

17. At least. nt

Reply to Renew Deal (Original post)

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 09:22 AM

Jun 2015

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