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pstokely

(10,529 posts)
5. my guess is Faux has more loyal (but old) regular daily viewers than MSNBC or CNN
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:17 PM
Jun 2015

CNN outrates Faux during breaking news

Initech

(100,084 posts)
2. There's 20 religious channels and 30 home shopping channels on DirectTV.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jun 2015

I could easily do without those.

brewens

(13,598 posts)
3. The people in power don't really believe in the free market as much as they say they do.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jun 2015

Given the chance to run monopolies, they won't let the market just decide. Bring it on! Put whatever fair price they think they need on all popular channels and let us decide what we want.

I just ran into a situation with my sideline business. My girlfriend had planned on working an ABATE sponsored biker rally. She bailed because they had introduced some new "fees" for vendors. This is nothing new at events like that. No different than a tax. Gouge the vendors and fleece the crowd. Of course you can say we'll just raise prices to cover it but that doesn't really work. If it cuts demand and sales, we get screwed trying that. Bikers tend to be more conservative than not which are the people running ABATE events. You'd think they would know better and some do. I have no problem overall with ABATE. It's different people calling the shots at the various events of theirs. Some are good and some not so much.

I can't tell you how many times I've worked an event that is well below capacity where they gouge us. They could try keeping the vendor fees low, let us keep the prices down, let the crowd party for cheaper and hope to make their money by packing the place. It's pretty rare to see that these days.

The last free biker rally in the nation we knew of at Soap Lake, WA shut down a couple of years ago. It was called The Run to the Sun. That was because people running local businesses in that town got into a big pissing match. Each afraid the other guy was getting a bigger slice of the pie. Then jacking up vendor fees so we couldn't make much money. They didn't trust that extra money to end up in their till at their store, bar, restaraunt or motel. Had to tax us up front to get it they thought. That was a shame. That town was a swarming with bikers for several days when that event was hot. Freakin' bikers travel light and spend a lot of money if you can draw them in.

 

pugetres

(507 posts)
7. As should the folks who want to watch the craptastic
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:25 PM
Jun 2015

offerings of the Discovery, History and Learning channels.

We all end up paying for the crap programming because of the way the bundling happens.

 

NewSystemNeeded

(111 posts)
10. Agreed.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:40 PM
Jun 2015

Some of those channels wouldn't be able to stay on the air without forcing everyone to support them.

And we'd all be better off for it.

pstokely

(10,529 posts)
8. you'd be paying for the Bevo channel if you lived in TX and subscribed to cable
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jun 2015

even though you may never watch Longhorn women's volleyball

Archae

(46,337 posts)
9. There still are cable channels I wouldn't mind getting, but would have to pay more for.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:39 PM
Jun 2015

Smithsonian, and the RFD channel.

(Hey, I like Hee Haw!)

The home shopping and religious channels could go pound sand, and with maybe a couple exemptions, I've given up Discovery, History and TLC.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
12. I hear you there my friend, I have 500 channels of crap and turn off the TV because there is nothing
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:32 AM
Jun 2015

to watch.

BTW, you should try Los Angeles radio, it is even worse believe it or not. They think they can out do each other with less commercials with their tried and true group list rather than exploring something that is remotely new, even by an well established group. It is that (Classic Rock) or rap music which is done on the cheap to point of no investment. Entertainment is just one big brain drain shit stain...

As far as Discovery, History and TLC, they are also along the lines of rap music, no investment. They are, "Money for Nothing" entertainment. Hope they are proud of it.


KT2000

(20,585 posts)
11. TV offerings are getting awful
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:10 AM
Jun 2015

Paid Programming is not even just late night now - Many shopping channels - Religious channels - Whoever owns the Law & Order franchise now seems to own several stations - Sundance is nothing now - weekends of Lockup -

Can't figure out why I even have the service

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
14. there is no honor amoungst thieves anymore
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:53 AM
Jun 2015

the TV system is broken ....do you ever spend an hour surfing channels to realize programming was better with just a few stations that had some pride in their work .

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