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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFaux news freaks out: "Pope Francis is THE MOST DANGEROUS person on the planet!"
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/fox-host-freaks-out-over-marxist-pope-francis-he-is-the-most-dangerous-person-on-the-planet/Fox News personality Greg Gutfeld accused Pope Francis of being the most dangerous person on the planet because he is seeking strange new respect from adversaries on climate change.
On Tuesday nights episode of The Five, the panel discussed the pontiffs leaked encyclical that warns of unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem unless drastic changes to lifestyle and energy consumption are made globally. Gutfeld accused the pope of having a Marxist background and Malthusian belief system.
And that is what the Pope is doing. He doesnt want to be your grandfathers pope. He wants to be a modern pope. All he needs is dreadlocks and a dog with a bandanna and he could be on Occupy Wall Street, Gutfeld ranted, in a video clip procured by Media Matters.
In a conspiratorial-sounding diatribe, Gutfeld implied there was a link between the Popes supposed Malthusian belief in a looming overpopulation-related global catastrophe and climate change.
He is a Malthusian. He is in bed with Malthus. He believes that the Earth is overpopulated and remember he said Catholics have to stop breeding like rabbits? Do you remember where that came from? Thats a Malthusian belief. And Malthusians believe that the Earth is overpopulated and it would be nice if there were a few billion people less. How does that happen? Global warming.
SNIP
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The RW Catholics are freaking out!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)But shout loudly.
Glad to hear my Pope is freaking them out.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)"While Catholics have been swing voters since Richard Nixons second term, white Catholics are now identifying as Republican by historic margins. According to the most recent polling from the Pew Research Center, 53 percent of white Catholics now favor the GOP, versus 39 percent who favor the Democratsthe largest point spread in the history of the Pew poll. And for the first time, white Catholics are more Republican than the voting group usually considered the ultimate Republicans: white Protestants (a designation that includes both mainline and evangelical Protestants)."
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/15/the_democratic_party_is_facing_a_catholic_apocalypse/
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)The number who identify as Catholic is far higher than the number who turn up in the pews each Sunday -- and far more Democratic.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)and ask the regular Church goers what their affiliation is.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Vote D under Clinton, vote R under Dubya (until the war is proven a lie) and then vote sharply R as soon as Obama won.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)with gays and women in general, but on climate change and poverty, he's light years ahead of prior Popes.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)but he is headed in the right direction on some big issues. And none are bigger than the future habitability of the only planet we have. None.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Who knows what more he can accomplish.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's not an act or a thing he puts up with for the church's sake. He is a homophobe to the max. He spent this morning calling out gender roles in parentage, singling out same sex parents, which is a continuation of his 'same sex parents adopting children is discrimination against the child' schtick. He also spent a little time crapping on single parents, but his primary goal was to say vile shit about gay people.
He's not going to lead change for the church on this because he himself holds to regressive doctrine.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)He can't undo 2000 years of Church history and precedent in two years.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Do try to keep up with current events.
He is a spectacular bigot with the ears of some 1.3bn Catholics worldwide. He's not even trying to change the church on this.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Whatever his other flaws, I'm glad he's speaking up strongly for the environment.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Wouldn't global warming mean less people? And if the pope wanted less people wouldn't he do nothing on global warming? Maybe my problem is trying to understand the foxian mind.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)Archae
(46,337 posts)The Nazi.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Blank frank is just better at the pr thing.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)As if Malthus were wrong. And the earth is flat.
I don't believe what I'm hearing from pope Francis. But go for it, man. I love it.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)loving watching this one.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)Pope infallibility (per he hears from God)
vs.
Innerrancy of the Bible (people writing sections heard from God)
For the past couple of decades (post Kennedy) far right Catholics (with some Bishops very vocal) joined with far right evangelicals on an increasingly political agenda. Now the Catholics (esp those high up Bishops) have their loyalties tested: is the Pope infallible - and if not - how are any of your preachings more infallible than his? And then what is the point of the Papacy?
For Evangelicals - if Catholics who are more politically than religiously aligned - go against their faith leader (infallibility), do you have to fall in line on every issue with your leaders on political lines - per inerrancy (literal readings of the bible) ... or *gasp* are there different ways of reading the same passages in the bible (and if so - how do you tell what is the right per what interpretation gets the inerrancy correct?)
Not Catholic.. but "Go Pope Frances, Go!)
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Pope Francis said Monday that "many powerful people don't want peace because they live off war". The Argentine pontiff made the hard-hitting comment in response to a question from one of the 7,000 children taking part in an audience held with the Peace Factory organisation. "This is serious," Francis told the children.
"Some powerful people make their living with the production of arms.
"It's the industry of death".
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/11/1384007/-Pope-Francis-Many-powerful-people-don-t-want-peace-because-they-live-off-war