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kpete

(72,010 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:26 AM Jun 2015

BERNIE tells corporate America: 'You want us to buy your products - Stop outsourcing."


Ed: What is the key question, and I'll let you frame it, what is the key question at this hour seeing that the House may go back and redo the rules to massage this to try to get a hundred more representatives to get the president Fast Track Authority. How do you see it?

Bernie: If Fast Track passes, TPP will pass. There's no question about that.

Ed, there is a reason why virtually every corporation in America, the pharmaceutical industry, and Wall Street want this to be passed, and there is a reason, as you've just mentioned, why every union, many environmental groups and religious groups are against it. Because anyone who looks at history understands that our trade polices--from NAFTA, CAFTA, to China--have been a disaster for the American workers. Since 2001, we have lost over 60,000 factories, not all attributable to trade, but a lot of it is. Millions of decent-paying jobs.

Our demand now must be to corporate America, and say to them: 'You want us to buy your products, the time is long overdue for you to stop outsourcing. Let's create and manufacture those products here in the United States.' That's what this is about.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/16/1393674/-Bernie-Sanders-tells-Ed-exactly-what-he-thinks-about-Fast-Track-Authority-and-the-TPP-video
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BERNIE tells corporate America: 'You want us to buy your products - Stop outsourcing." (Original Post) kpete Jun 2015 OP
Money is the only thing that speaks these days Oilwellian Jun 2015 #1
+1 Enthusiast Jun 2015 #10
Corporations really don't care if we can buy or afford to buy any of their crap ... aggiesal Jun 2015 #18
K&R abelenkpe Jun 2015 #2
This is great, but one thing.... JaneyVee Jun 2015 #3
That's why we should never pass a trade deal like the TPP. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #11
Republicans will pass a future trade deal with zero labor and enviro standards. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #12
I think the point is that most of us will be too poor to purchase most of their junk. One of the jwirr Jun 2015 #13
Corporate, global locusts with no allegiance to any country moving around the world appalachiablue Jun 2015 #16
That would be sort of hard to do for average working Americans leftofcool Jun 2015 #4
this is the race to the bottom. your demand for lower prices drives business (jobs) overseas Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #5
That's the problem with low wages in a nutshell. historylovr Jun 2015 #9
tell that to thepeople who waited over night in the line to buy the next outsourced icrap Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #6
bernie you need to tell the american people that shopping for the lowest price isnt in our best Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #7
Demands only work if you're in a position of strength The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #8
"You want us to buy your products...." No, Bernie; they care not. There is a WORLD of consumers. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #14
Bernie obviously doesn't know what outsourcing is. Outourcing has been a business practice for... MohRokTah Jun 2015 #15
Moving American manufacturing overseas has made China rich and now a potential threat to America AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #17

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
1. Money is the only thing that speaks these days
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:29 AM
Jun 2015

At the rate we're going, we won't be able to buy their shit anyway.

aggiesal

(8,922 posts)
18. Corporations really don't care if we can buy or afford to buy any of their crap ...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 02:51 PM
Jun 2015

When you look at China, their middle class is larger then the population of the US.
So why bother with the US, when China covers, and India is growing.

These trade deals should benefit the citizens for our country, but it only ever benefits
the US/Multinational corporations.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. This is great, but one thing....
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

Corporations don't have any allegiance to the United States, they are multinational entities, therefore they don't have to start businesses in America in order to sell in America. And most Americans don't care enough to not buy the cheapest goods available.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. I think the point is that most of us will be too poor to purchase most of their junk. One of the
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jun 2015

funniest things I have heard this year is the WalMart is losing money because people are not buying. The eventual outcome of outsourcing is that workers have less to spend. I for one buy a lot of the not absolutely necessary items at rummage sales or I do without.

Henry Ford understood that as soon as he made his first car. If workers cannot afford to buy the products they make then you will not be able to sell them.

appalachiablue

(41,168 posts)
16. Corporate, global locusts with no allegiance to any country moving around the world
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jun 2015

to devour resources and people for increased profit. Transnational locusts rule, for now.

~ Video, Locusts Swarm Egypt

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
4. That would be sort of hard to do for average working Americans
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jun 2015

We all save pennies by purchasing the least expensive products. I can't imagine a hard working family with two little kids paying 20 bucks for a package of 3 pieces of underwear for their toddler when they can get them at Wal-Mart for 6 bucks. Maybe Bernie can imagine that though.

 

Romeo.lima333

(1,127 posts)
5. this is the race to the bottom. your demand for lower prices drives business (jobs) overseas
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jun 2015

then the jobs go there then youre out of work. maybe some of us can try to imagine that

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
9. That's the problem with low wages in a nutshell.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

We can't afford not to buy cheaply made goods that fall apart within six months, which then drives the demand for more cheaply made goods because we have to replace them over and over, which winds up costing us more. I hear all the time that that's what we want though. But "want" is not the same as "have to by necessity."

 

Romeo.lima333

(1,127 posts)
7. bernie you need to tell the american people that shopping for the lowest price isnt in our best
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jun 2015

interest. people demand lower and lower prices then wonder why their own wages are stagnating

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
8. Demands only work if you're in a position of strength
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jun 2015

What if they don't necessarily need Americans to buy their products?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
14. "You want us to buy your products...." No, Bernie; they care not. There is a WORLD of consumers.
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jun 2015
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. Bernie obviously doesn't know what outsourcing is. Outourcing has been a business practice for...
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

literally centuries.

When your business needs something that is not a part of the core competencies of the business, you outsource the production of what you need.

Everybody does it and has done it for as long as there has been commerce.

What Bernie is objecting to is OFFSHORING. He even seems to be a bit upset about NEARSHORING.

What companies that have offshored services have discovered is, quality suffers. In many cases these services are being repatriated, whether via internally provided services or outsourced to a domestic provider. The offshoring done last decade was done for short term gains in labor arbitrage. If you maintain outsourced services but pull them into domestic providers while contractually obligating that such services remain domestic, quality improves and long term gains can be achieved.

In fact, many more rural areas such as in Indiana and portions of Kentucky and Michigan are prime locations for domestic repatriated outsourced IT and other back office services.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
17. Moving American manufacturing overseas has made China rich and now a potential threat to America
Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jun 2015

Basically multinational corporations have committed treason and should be treated accordingly.

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