Clinton vs.Bush, Act II.

[mylye2222]

With Hillary now being the ultra favorite for the nomination, and Jeb Bush launching his bid,
Well, I guarantee you, we are heading to an almost certain new Bush/Clinton WH dual.

If you take the time to consider, you'll see that, since 1992, no one presidency process, primaries and GE additionned, has happenned without a Bush, or a Clinton, with the exception of the 2012 one.

1992: Bill Clinton/ GHW Bush
1996 : Bill Clinton reelected
2000: George W. Bush / Al Gore
2004: George W. Bush/ John F. Kerry
2008: Hillary Clinton in Democratic primaries
2012: No Bush Neither Clinton. Obama/Romney
2016? Hillary Clinton vs...? Jeb Bush Vs...? Hillary Clinton/ Jeb Bush?



And now we heard that somewhat Chelsea Clinton is considering her own political career, and on Bushes side, a Geoprge P; Bush has already been elected in a local vote.

Do American really think only those two families are able to lead the country?

[cali]

1. sign of sick democracy. and i have no faith

in Hillary 's ability to win.

[mylye2222]

4. Exactly, always the same names coming back and forth.

A very, very, sick democracy. Blocked renewment. People reassuring themeselves IMHO

[FSogol]

2. Link? "And now we heard that somewhat Chelsea Clinton is considering her own political career"

Otherwise it seems as dishonest as your chart.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. Lazy? Lemme make it easy for you.

type "chelsea clinton considering politics" into a google search, and feel free to read any of the MANY articles on it.

The fact that you haven't bothered to do an internet search on something doesn't actually make it not exist.

[mylye2222]

7. Exact. There is several links about Chelseas considerations.

Btw I sated a fact. Not attack.

[FSogol]

11. Prove it. Also, I have not used the word attack in this thread. Not sure what you are

referring to.

[mylye2222]

12. You do, like a lot of Hillary supporter, ask too often

proof when there is evidence online! Just take the time to write a few words in your Google browser.

It's just an thread obstruction strategy, we know that and we are no more fooled, sorry.

[FSogol]

14. I'm not a HRC supporter. You made a claim about Chelsa Clinton, back it up.

otherwise it is pure BS. (And to save you some time, don't post some dreck from the Washington Times or Examiner to support your erroneous claims.)

[former9thward]

21. Listen to her own words.

Chelsea Clinton: Absolutely Would Consider Politics

You can listen to her at about minute 9 in this video.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/b/12a00c34-51e7-454e-b757-b52fbf278789

Of course you will say she did not really say it or mean it or something.....

[FSogol]

23. From the first line in your reply, "would." That doesn't mean "will."

Would I like to be a race car driver? Sure!

[former9thward]

29. You did not listen to it.

I knew that but I put it there for any poster who was not sure.

[FSogol]

9. Do all those article have the same imaginary facts or has Chelsa said something specific?

If you are lazy, you can probably just guess which answer is correct.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

10. So you are too lazy to do the search and read them yourself, got it. nt

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. Clinton v Bush?

Heads, plutocrats win, tails, plutocrats win.

[bigwillq]

5. No more Bush or Clinton (nt)

[snooper2]

20. That's why it's been in my sig.

GO MARTIN!

[olddots]

8. I feel these two families are the least of the worlds problems

they are just two brands of white bread owned by mega industries .

[SixString]

13. The illusion of choice.

This matchup was predictable back in '09.

Get ready for another president bush.

[Blue_Adept]

15. It goes further, of course

A little more context.

1980: GHW Bush presidential primary, eventually VP pick
1984: GHW Bush VP run
1988: GWH Bush Presidential run
1992: Bill Clinton/ GHW Bush
1996 : Bill Clinton reelected
2000: George W. Bush / Al Gore
2004: George W. Bush/ John F. Kerry
2008: Hillary Clinton in Democratic primaries
2012: No Bush Neither Clinton. Obama/Romney
2016? Hillary Clinton vs...? Jeb Bush Vs...? Hillary Clinton/ Jeb Bush?

Since the phrasing wasn't including both of them at the same time, why not go back to when the Bush "dynasty" started?

Politics is rife with this in most areas over most of its lifespan, including the US, from various Adams to Roosevelts and Kennedy's and more.

We're just more "aware" of it because we're living in the now. You heard the same back in the day as well.

[FSogol]

16. The chart didn't go back farther because they are more concerned with Democratic candidate HRC

than with whatever fuck-up from the Bush brood is running. They are more worried about Democrats than Republicans. Notice their chart doesn't even give Obama his due for winning in 2008 because that weakens their screwed up screed?

[mylye2222]

17. Oh, please,

First. My thread was talking about Bushes and Clintons. Secondly I said Hillary was just in primaries. Reread. You are turning my OP upside down because it fits your agenda.

[FSogol]

18. What is my agenda?

I'm a Democrat. While I have a favorite candidate (see my sig for a clue), I will not bash other Democrats as part of a game. I want our party to win and move the country forward. Why not promote a candidate instead of trying to tear a candidate down?

PS Reread is some advice you should take yourself.

[mylye2222]

19. I am not tearing down Hillary,

And why being afraid? She has all the POPULARITY and NAME RECOGNITION she needs. She already proved she could do any mistakes without being in peril. People like Sanders and O'Malley would not have this chance

Sorry I thought you were a Clinton person.

[FSogol]

22. Are you sure you aren't tearing her down? Thread after thread says otherwise.

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What will happen when John Kerry campaigns for HRC?

If O'Malley and Sanders don't have the same chances, so what? You don't hear either of them whining or giving up. They aren't afraid and neither are their supporters. They are out campaigning hard for what they believe in. That's the way politics works. Chafee and Webb are so far behind, they aren't on anyone's radar, yet they aren't giving up. The bashers, Eeyores, and malcontents are the ones who seem afraid.

My advice? If you have a preferred candidate, post positive threads explaining why that candidate is the best. All the fighting and tearing down candidate is total crap. This is the election where we all need to pull together for the nominee.

[Lisa D]

25. +1

I second the call for more positive threads.

[mylye2222]

27. Well, Kerry is, as SoS not supposed to campaign for anyone,

as the sitting SOS has a tradition of staying out of politics.

Well, my preffered candidate is Sanders of course, and I wish his because he will put Amercia and its foreign policy in a more progressive way.

But I really wonder some are so mad at Clinton critics. As I stated before, no matter what she is the favorite. She had that favor status far long before any process begin.

[LanternWaste]

24. Genetics and marriages are the last thing I think about when casting a vote.

Genetics and marriages are the last thing I think about when casting a vote. A voter who denies their vote to a candidate simply due to family ties elicits the same amount of bemused giggling from me as a voter who casts their vote simply due to family ties.

Though I realize there may be a desire to disqualify candidates based on name alone (which is I believe, no more and no less melodramatic, absurd and ultimately irrelevant than in presuming the belief exists that they are the only two candidates qualified to lead the country...).

[wyldwolf]

26. I would have never known about the presidential elections from 1992 - 2016 if you'd not posted this.

WOW!

[Mike Nelson]

28. The Bush-Pierce family goes WAY back...

... Hillary Rodham is the wife of 1 former President. She will be better than the Clinton or Bush-Pierce line!