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kpete

(72,025 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:05 AM Jun 2015

Dear GOP: When you've lost Chris Wallace, your goose is cooked.

Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) swore on Fox News Sunday that the GOP had a plan in place in case the Supreme Court eliminated the Affordable Care Act’s federal subsidies, potentially stripping health care from at least six million people. He declined to say anything about that plan, however, and faced questions from an increasingly skeptical Chris Wallace.

...But when Wallace asked if that solution would allow those millions to keep they’re subsidies, Ryan deflected. “Well, we will have a solution that addresses this law,” Ryan said. “We’ll have a solution for the people caught in this law, so that they’re not caught in the lurch.” In response to several followup questions about the specificities of the GOP response, Ryan said he wanted to wait until the Court ruled before he said anything.

Wallace then challenged Ryan’s assertion that Obamacare was a “failed law,” noting it had insured 16 million people, covered swaths more with pre-existing conditions, and slowed the rise of health care costs, and noted the GOP had not proposed plans to replicate those successes.

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“For all the complaints, we’re five years into Obamacare and Republicans have still not come up with a coherent plan that will ensure that all of those millions of uninsured people will get coverage,” Wallace said.



http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/foxs-wallace-makes-paul-ryan-dance-over-gops-plan-for-obamacare-subsidies/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/15/1393313/-Dear-GOP-When-you-ve-lost-Chris-Wallace-your-goose-is-cooked

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Dear GOP: When you've lost Chris Wallace, your goose is cooked. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2015 OP
Its the "kick the can, down the road plan" ... Historic NY Jun 2015 #1
Actually it is the "Kick the Bucket" plan... Human101948 Jun 2015 #5
One Republican plan was a bill to kick the can to 2017. Jim Lane Jun 2015 #9
Ryan wasn't expecting THAT from Fox, now was he? CTyankee Jun 2015 #2
Sadly, none of that success will the SCOTUS. Exilednight Jun 2015 #3
I could be Way off fredamae Jun 2015 #4
Ryan is not just a liar but he's evil about it brush Jun 2015 #6
From a letter to Congressman Ryan from safeinOhio Jun 2015 #7
Amen! nt brush Jun 2015 #8
Ryan and the GOP do have a plan. Here it is: hvn_nbr_2 Jun 2015 #10
The Obama administration is threatening scorched earth - and that's irresponsible BlueStreak Jun 2015 #11
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. One Republican plan was a bill to kick the can to 2017.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jun 2015

Dealing with an adverse SCOTUS decision would be simple -- a one-page bill that clarifies the language now in dispute and preserves subsidies for everyone. That's what some Democrats have called for.

At least one Republican counterproposal was to do that fix but to make it temporary. The subsidies would end very soon after the 2016 elections!

A confrontation could be coming if Republicans won't pass a permanent fix and Obama decides to play hardball and veto a "kick the can" fix. Then millions of people lose their subsidies and each party blames the other.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. Ryan wasn't expecting THAT from Fox, now was he?
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

He's also a gd coward...they know that if the shit hits the fan on Obamacare the shit will hit HIM in the face...

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
4. I could be Way off
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jun 2015

but it sounds like the GOP is very worried that SCOTUS just Might give the GOP Exactly what they Said they wanted...except, Repeal Obamacare was a Distraction while "they" went after other, bigger things....
The GOP Knows after nearly 60 attempts to "kill Obamacare"...they'll take FULL Blame for Nearly 20 Million losing vital Health Care Services.

brush

(53,922 posts)
6. Ryan is not just a liar but he's evil about it
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

Every chance he gets he calls Obamacare a "failed law" that's not working.

Good on Chris Wallace for not letting him get away with it. So often, even on other media outlets, the moderator let's Ryan spout his talking points without any push back. For Wallace to do this on FOX it's almost unprecedented.

safeinOhio

(32,733 posts)
7. From a letter to Congressman Ryan from
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jun 2015

the Conference of Bishops and the Catholic faculty of Georgetown

'In short, your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Her call to selfishness and her antagonism toward religion are antithetical to the Gospel values of compassion and love."

This was about his misuse of the Catholic Doctrine of Subsidiarity.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
11. The Obama administration is threatening scorched earth - and that's irresponsible
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015

There is a simple, almost trivial solution to this problem. The HHS can simply offer a services agreement to each of the states that uses healthcare.gov. The terms of that agreement would establish the state as the OPERATOR fo the system with HHS being the subcontractor that actually carries out the work.

That would solve the problem. It really isn't any more complicated than that. In fact, Pennsylvania has already been planning this exact thing.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/240797-pa-announces-back-up-plan-if-court-cripples-obamacare

The Obama administration has chosen to dare the SCOTUS to overturn the bill, hoeing that SCOTUS will chicken out. That way, Obama can claim victory.

The responsible thing would be to heavily publicize the contingency solution. That would effectively take the SCOTUS out of the equation. If SCOTUS knew that there would be a simple administrative work-around to their decree, they probably would not make a hostile ruling because that would just make them look silly. And if they did, it would not matter.

The big issue with the contingency plan is that it does require the Governors (and possibly the legislatures) to seek the subcontractor agreement and sign it. And that is even more reason why the Obama administration should be out there pushing this now, building political pressure on Jindal, and all the other governors who have dragged their feet. Please note the language about the Pennsylvania plan

"Pennsylvania does not envision setting up a marketplace that it runs completely by itself. Instead, it says 'Pennsylvania will assume responsibility for running the Marketplace, but will leverage the Federally Facilitated Marketplace’s (FFM’s) existing infrastructure to provide certain services.' ”

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