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leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Hobo
(757 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)not appreciated. Clicking out of GD now.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)What a stupid OP
Hobo
(757 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)That right there is an insult.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Personally, in my nearly 50 years of paying attention to Presidential elections, I have seen only one other candidate who generates as much enthusiasm in me as Bernie does.
I consider myself to be an RFK Democrat. And I think Bernie projects more of the qualities of RFK than any other candidate.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I break out in tears every time I see this. We lost so much in 1968.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. For those of you who are black -- considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible -- you can be filled with bitterness, and with hatred, and a desire for revenge.
We can move in that direction as a country, in greater polarization -- black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand, and to comprehend, and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion, and love.
For those of you who are black and are tempted to fill with -- be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man.
But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times.
My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote:
Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
falls drop by drop upon the heart,
until, in our own despair,
against our will,
comes wisdom
through the awful grace of God.
What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black.
So I ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King -- yeah, it's true -- but more importantly to say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love -- a prayer for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke.
We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past, but we -- and we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder.
But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land.
And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.
Thank you very much.
~Robert F. Kennedy, April 4, 1968
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)What a loss our country suffered.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)This is just another "It's silly for Bernie to be running and his supporters are pathetic" thread.
What's the purpose of things like that? How do they even help your candidate.
It didn't end up helping John Kerry when his supporters posted at least three huundred "Dennis is a joke" threads in 2004.
Our threads, by contrast, are about why we think our own candidate is preferable on the issues and the merits.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)I interpreted it to be a response to the overall obnoxious tone most "Bernie" fans have on the board.
And I write that as a supporter of NEITHER candidate.
cali
(114,904 posts)and take great umbrage, your lordship, at any criticism of HRC.
and yeah, you are consistent in that.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Really put pro this or anti that on display on a big issue until after the President has spoken. Now they support Hillary Clinton though her TPP stance is odd, kinda like oppose it until I'm there so I can be the one at the negotiations.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)You can't win by sneering, y'know.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"sorry did not mean to insult Saint Bernie..."
And yet you are consistently doing as such. Is it a personal policy of yours to cower behind petulant protestations, or is that merely an action so ingrained and internalized from grade school that you're simply and blissfully unaware you even do so...?
Regardless of how you advertise yourself, rest assured that you're good enough, you're smart enough, and doggonit-- people like you.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)BTW, the most recent poll of New Hampshire Dems shows Bernie only twelve points behind HRC after less than a month in the race.
You've got nothing to be smug about, and HRC will lose in '16 if her supporters keep acting like Bernie's got no right to be in the race.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Nor good news, since straw polls are meaningless. But the OP explicitly acknowledged that.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)some of their own medicine and now they know this board isn't Bernieunderground after all. "Boo hoo they are picking on Saint Bernie"
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)We don't insult for the sake of insulting.
BTW, HRC's lead is declining every day, so your side isn't entitled to this much overconfidence.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Jumpin Jack Flash
(242 posts)Bernie is at 32%, Clinton at 44%. Twelve point difference. And a month ago, he was barely polling 10%. It'll be the same EVERYWHERE you go. The inevitability meme is turning to be so over.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,243 posts)once he leaves the lily white enclaves of IA & NH. Bet on it!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,243 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You act like you and only you have the true religion
And you can do no wrong because you believe in the one true Bernie
cwydro
(51,308 posts)going here, don't you?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)It's ok because Bernie's days on the campaign trail are numbered. Come Suoer Tuesday it all over.
You're funny.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And I don't even think you realize that you're recycling attack lines your candidate used against Obama in '08, when she was running against him from a position far to his right.
Nobody thought Obama was the Messiah then. Nobody thinks Bernie is God now. It's just that some of us preferred and prefer them to the candidate you support. It's not like it's a crime to challenge the view that HRC is simply entitled to the nomination and that nobody else even has the right to be running.
You and your candidate have never been victimized by any other campaigns. It's just that, as is the case with any other candidate, things aren't always gonna go your way. Deal with it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)However no poll says someone is going to win the presidency plus I look at polls all the time so knew it was false but came for the replies.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)being smug
Jumpin Jack Flash
(242 posts)Bernie can't win the general vs WHO?
If it's any of these Republican clowns, then Bernie's got it in the bag. He appeals to all the working people, be it a Democrat, Republican or unaffiliated.
cali
(114,904 posts)I love the smell of hypocrisy in afternoon.
How old are you?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Jumpin Jack Flash
(242 posts)Corporatists has only one vote, just like everyone else.
GoneOffShore
(17,342 posts)Hobo
(757 posts)thats pretty funny
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)marmar
(77,097 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Stop being so childish!
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Going to be an interesting few months.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)watching Grandma Hillary's speeches
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)aspirant
(3,533 posts)St. Bernie, St. Bernard (A Dog), where do we go from here?
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Would you refer to Bernie as Grandpa? Isn't he just as old..make fun of her stand on TPP for all I care, but this sexist ageist crap is ridiculous.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Now it's time you get it. This dirty twisting name calling St. Bernie, St. Bernard is beyond ridiculous, it's pathetic. It has no basis in facts, made-up garbage and your silence is deafening.
Criticize one without the other is hilarious.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)A good bit older than Hillary, if that's what you're getting at.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Being caught on it as such, I'd cower behind insincerity too...
aspirant
(3,533 posts)I wrote what I meant, no need to be caught.
Go preach to the St. Bernie, St. Bernard name callers
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)OP's who's argument is that "Bernie's campaign is a joke" are not actually jokes themselves.
Oh, and lines like "they have no sense of humor" are the kinds of things guys in bars say when women don't find phrases like "Show us your tits, bitch!" to be knee-slappers
CanonRay
(14,119 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I swear I smelled a hint of vanilla.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)we're just waiting on Butthead, now...
Hobo
(757 posts)A bevis joke........Sanders supporters....what you going to do
Hobo
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)President Kucinich had awful taste.
Sid