OK, Bitches. I'm Back!

[Le Taz Hot]

(As Skinner reaches for his Xanax.)

I've taken a break for 6 months, tried other sites and found out they were just as sucky as this one. Who knew? I'm goin' with the devil I know as opposed to the devil I don't.

So, Bernie Sanders declared. Yay! A REAL Democrat. And he's gaining the Big Mo!

And there's Hillary, hiding in her bunker keeping strangely silent about the TPP (except to say it is the "gold standard" of trade agreements while she was SOS). Such a leader! (Not!)

And for the people who gave me Valentine's hearts in February, thank you, my lovelies!

Hugs and kisses and let the flame wars begin!:
LTH

[Lifelong Protester]

1. Glad you're back!

[Le Taz Hot]

5. Thank you, darlin'.

Never thought I'd say this but good to be back.

[blm]

2. heheh

Hotzee Totzee

(())

[Le Taz Hot]

8. And to the "pragmatists" on the board:

Live in fear . . .

[blm]

22. LOL….Linda Ronstadt told me to tell you…..

That'll be the day…..

; )

[calimary]

114. Fear? Nah.

Indignation, probably.

[rhett o rick]

332. I think you are being redundant. Pragmatism, at least here, means afraid. Welcome back. nm

[mnhtnbb]

3. Uh, oh. Is someone going to alert on that OP use of words?

[Warpy]

10. Probably, DU has a record number of prissy word jumpers right now

and they really make DU suck, but IBTL, welcome back Taz.

[cwydro]

12. I know, right?

How DARE that word be used lol!

[Le Taz Hot]

21. Hey, Warpy!

So, "Bitches" is banned but using "cracker" to refer to white people is OK? Got it. I can't really complain. Been to other sites and there's not much difference.

[orleans]

239. see any of the old timers from around here on your travels? nt

[MissDeeds]

57. Yeah

I got a post hidden for using that word - only time in I've ever had a post hidden. The rules here are applied in a fluid fashion. Yeah, that's it, a fluid fashion.

[GoneOffShore]

84. Fluid and fibrous

[hifiguy]

138. Actually, a little fiber in their diets is what some of those alerters need.

[GoneOffShore]

208. They just have to visualize further than oceans.

[hifiguy]

219. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink; Say no more!

[NaturalHigh]

321. I was thinking a little Turbolax might help.

That might help move the mail for the severely constipated.

[SaranchaIsWaiting]

97. My nieces friends call each other ho-bag biotches.

At first I kinda was, huh?

then I was rolling on the floor laughing.

[hifiguy]

118. Oh brother, is that ever the Dog's honest truth. nt

[L0oniX]

155. They're pissed off cause DU has turned into Bernie Underground.

[hifiguy]

241. Hey Lo0niX, are we crazy because we

believe in policy over gender politics?



Naw, I didn't think so.

Go Bernie, go Marty! Real Dems Arise!!

[rhett o rick]

333. You should be a little understanding. Policy is so much harder than personalities. nm

[hifiguy]

334. Ba-zing.

[Le Taz Hot]

11. How appropos would that be?

LOL!

[kentauros]

18. 100%!

I'm waiting for the rest of the jurors to make up their minds now

[jeff47]

20. I would be astounded if the alert was not already sent.

FYI, google shows that the word that got NYC_SKP banned has been used in 3,000 more posts than when NYC_SKP was banned.

[Le Taz Hot]

23. Wait. Wait. Wait.

NYC_SKP was banned????? Damn! And he was the sane one.

[jeff47]

48. Yes, apparently spoonerisms about slang for female genitalia is a banworthy offense.

He was playing with a troll before MIRT got the troll. The troll used a spoonerism about female genitalia, and NYC_SKP toyed with him instead of letting MIRT handle it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026777709

[notadmblnd]

211. Oh yeah, last week. It was epic.

[NaturalHigh]

322. That was probably the stupidest ban I've ever seen.

[kentauros]

33. They did.

And it won't be hidden. I didn't say anything on the jury, so I'm one of the anonymous votes to Leave It

Results of your Jury Service

On Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:24 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

OK, Bitches. I'm Back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026824105

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Please do not walk back in here, with a yell to sexism.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 05:41 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I don't think this will get hidden but yeah, "bitches" is a misogynist slur and should be avoided like other slurs. If you want to call me a member of the outrage whatever, so be it. I wouldn't have alerted but if I'm on the jury I'll vote to hide.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[hobbit709]

38. The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again.

We may need to get out the comfy chair.

[NaturalHigh]

60. You survived the jury.

[hobbit709]

63. There are many here among us who are sarchasm challenged.

[NaturalHigh]

67. The results. I'm #2.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Unholy Church Of The Perpetually", Name calling a group of men came up with to insult women if they challenge sexist slurs. Bitch is a sexist slur. It wasnt hidden, which is fine. But, to call out feminists for challenging a sexist slur over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:14 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't know what this "Church" is, but if the OP survived a jury, then this should too.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I thought it was clever.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[kentuck]

73. #6

On Fri Jun 12, 2015, 02:56 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6824341

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Unholy Church Of The Perpetually", Name calling a group of men came up with to insult women if they challenge sexist slurs. Bitch is a sexist slur. It wasnt hidden, which is fine. But, to call out feminists for challenging a sexist slur over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 03:14 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't know what this "Church" is, but if the OP survived a jury, then this should too.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I thought it was clever.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[NaturalHigh]

79. I love jury duty when it's that easy.

[hifiguy]

141. Responding to those kind of alerts is like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel.

Almost too easy. Never takes me more than about 30 seconds for the whole process.

[2banon]

192. I'm a very old Feminist, and I am NOT offended. Something seriously disturbing about this gen's

"feminism". really misses what's actually misogynistic by about a 1000 miles. I think cuzz, they're taking their SELVES too damn seriously, imo. They're not doing our sex the favor they think they are.

Sad, really.

[SalviaBlue]

200. As a 60 year old feminist, I agree with you completely.

Get a grip women, this word nazi shit is embarassing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

235. The working class femme's fatales

despise this type of ahem, perpetually offended types.

I used to wonder why, not anymore.

It's easy to get offended over mere words and not fight over living wages.

[hifiguy]

243. The Witchfinders General need to be driven

from DU. Ridicule is always an extremely effective weapon against the terminally self-righteous. I urge DUers to unanimously reject their obvious and coordinated alert-stalking and swarm attacks. Time for this crap to end. Now.

[peacebird]

251. Agree totally.

[2banon]

283. I'm with you! Hear, Here!

[sabrina 1]

299. Yes, it's about time the majority of the women here got a chance to talk about REAL WOMEN'S issues

without the constant harassment and distraction, which is all it is, FROM those issues by the obsession with words.

I think of the women in famine stricken Somalia which I wrote about here a few years ago, walking for miles with their children, some pregnant, children dying along the way, mothers too, and I can't help wondering what they would think if someone were to ask them 'what do you think about the use of offensive words'?

Their PLIGHT is and should be not just offensive, but the cause of worldwide OUTRAGE and then ACTION on their behalf.

But alas, none of the permanently offended were interested in that OP. Airc, it sank like a rock. perhaps if I had included a few 'words' at least it might have kicked, though the content would must likely would still have been ignored.

[polly7]

303. You're right, Sabrina.

I've posted many reports too of women and children around the world in desperate need of help - not a single one of those (who called us rape-apologists, pedophile enablers, MRA apologists, 'women who like to be abused!' - usually over differences discussing a word) ever chimed in. Not once.

But watch your words!

I don't take the concern seriously anymore.

[sabrina 1]

306. Sssshhh, not supposed to talk about women in Foreign Countries, or how they are affected

by our Foreign Wars etc. Or so I was told lol!

Just read an important article about the millions of women who have been so destroyed as a result of our policies in the ME. I will be posting it soon, and the work Feminists have been struggling to do to try to help them, but there are so many. But we have 'words' to think about, so what can you do?

[polly7]

358. Oops.

Yes, I've seen that mentioned a time or two. Of course the struggles of women in every country are important and I've never seen anyone say otherwise ... I'm just extra aware of the suffering of women and children in every country we've hurt with military interventions, corporate bullying and everything else we've unleashed on people who've done nothing to deserve it. Mostly because they have been hurt SO badly - probably worse than any of us can even imagine, and it's up to us to care and help however we can. I wish I was in a position to join those Feminists who are doing just that.

I'm looking forward to reading your article.

[rhett o rick]

348. Sadly it's so much easier to protect a targeted group by censoring words than

actually dealing with the problem. This thread is one of the most politically liberal (open-minded) threads I've seen in a long time. And, of course, it was alerted on. There is a small minority here that doesn't like open-minded discussions because IMO they can't deal with it and would rather not talk about nor let anyone else talk about it.

[NaturalHigh]

370. I wish it had ended a long time ago.

Who knows how many good posters have left over that shit?

[hifiguy]

371. I quietly left for a year-plus

Specifically because of the Witchfinders General before deciding I would not let them run me off of DU and away from the many here I like and respect.

[polly7]

373. We're glad you decided to come back! nt.

[NaturalHigh]

375. I left for three months on two different occasions.

Like you I decided that they didn't get to run me off no matter how hard three in particular tried. The only way they will get rid of me is if they get me banned.

[R B Garr]

249. It's still a head-scratcher why you don't let people call you a stupid

b-word on your own blog since you said you censor it... Not that I'm condoning it, no way. Just why try to censor others. Free speech!

Why so perpetually offended on your own blog? Strange...

[nadinbrzezinski]

269. Well because the attacks were not anything like this

and I am not going to prove any points to you.

The eternally offended are just that. And because Of them I watch what I say here. Eggshells mode. Not that I would use certain words, that when used for effect can be very effective. Just ask Rude.

Oh and I have proven beyond a shadow that this place is not, all protestations to the side, caring for real issues.

[NuttyFluffers]

355. this place transformed into "discussion management" ages ago.

real influence takes raw work, communication, and action. it's almost like a little (mocking)bird, somewhere, discovered this place and its true potential -- and didn't like it.

eggshells are great for compost and freshening garbage disposals, by the way. terrible for walking.

[nadinbrzezinski]

363. Correct

But the entertainment. Oy

[JTFrog]

270. Interesting.

I've seen a lot of this around lately. The hypocrisy levels are through the roof.

Like questioning why on earth a poster here got banned for saying one bad thing that one time (which is really stretching the truth), followed up with the same folks screaming why isn't that woman being fired from NPR for saying one bad thing that one time....

This place gets me so dizzy sometimes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

271. Well he gets offended

by me not letting spell flames or you "write like a five year." To variations in the same theme. You know the kind of shit skinner thinks is perfectly ok here and I no longer bother alerting anymore when the crew tries it. Apparently I should allow that there.

Nope.

Manually moderated cause the crew tried those and much,more worst personal attacks. IP bans are rather ahem useful.

[JTFrog]

272. It's ok for you, but not for DU...

Got it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

273. It is community standards baby

to quote the owners.

Those standards are fine with cyberstalking, bullying et al. So banning a few words is rather silly, given those community standards.

Just my opinion.

Anyhow, it is not that we are at a site that actually cares for ahem policy, or actual women's issues, such as police violence, equal pay, the ERA, minimum wage and child care.

Those issues, those OPs sink like rocks. But shitty novels...how many days on fifty shades? DU has a reputation, not a good one, for it's lack of seriousness around the web

So it is what it is.

[JTFrog]

276. You will see and get out of this site what you want...

and I'll keep reading about and commenting on policy, actual women's issues, police violence, equal pay, the ERA, minimum wage and child care right here on DemocraticUnderground. DU has a reputation all, right. A reputation for it's shitty community standards when it comes to misogyny and sexism. If one chooses not to participate in the process that guides the community standards and if one throws their hands up in the air and declares defeat because some women here fight against misogyny and sexist language, then the path to a welcoming environment free of bullying and cyberstalking becomes pretty clouded.

Just my opinion.

[nadinbrzezinski]

279. Well I posted yesterday

of the changes activists want with the local CRB. The charge is being led by many women. Sank like a rock

I have posted about the vaccination legislation in California, spearheaded among others, by a female legislator...sank

About sick days...sank

I could go on. So yes, my view, if I post a word, the site will spend days and multiple OPs.

Now lemme see if the Clinton campaign posted her speech anywhere. I got a procedural, non partisan, story to write. Ergo, not fit for a partisan site.

[JTFrog]

284. I thought DU stated up front it was a partisan site.

I'm sorry that people didn't respond to your posts. That doesn't mean that the discussions aren't taking place at all. And it certainly doesn't mean that DUer's don't care about women's issues. The reason those threads about sexist language and misogyny get so out of control is because of the absolute freak out that happens here when someone suggests that there are less offensive ways of communicating.

[nadinbrzezinski]

287. People have noted, not just me,

Last edited Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1)

that women's issues sink... I just used those as examples.

It is what it is.

But it is to the point that we just laugh at the church of the eternally insulted. After all, if those are the community standards and what matters... who am I to say? I speak of these issues, just NOT HERE. And that experience is not just mine. Granted, sometimes it is nicer to do it over coffee and nice music.

And no, I run a non partisan news paper. I know that non partisan news are not wanted here. I will have to wait for CSPAN to put the video up.

[NaturalHigh]

311. Absolute freak out? LOL

Who really does the freaking out whenever two or three particular words are used?

[sabrina 1]

300. Actually I did not see much of that, calling for the woman to be fired, I saw the opposite. Lots of

people defending her while admitting she made a mistake, which she herself admitted. Have you seen dozens of OPs here after the initial response with thousands of comments and alert stalking of anyone who DIDN'T agree?

That was a very bad analogy frankly.

[rhett o rick]

329. Let's see if I got this correct. You can't see the difference between the anti-Semetic attack

by a national journalist against Sen Sanders, and what DU'er wrote on a message board.

[cui bono]

301. That's a completely different use of the word and a completely different situation.

Perhaps nadin doesn't feel like her blog having a bunch of immature name calling on it.

This OP is not that at all. Really, you don't see the difference? Or do you just not care because you just have to perpetuate the nadin bullying on DU?

Why don't you bullies just grow up and leave her alone ffs.

[NaturalHigh]

316. I don't know anything about Nadin's blog...

but I know there are different rules for different boards. Take Yahoo, for example, where almost anything goes. Would you like the rules on that site to apply here at DU? Most of the perpetually offended crew are far too sensitive for any place where they can't throw a tantrum to get a post hidden or a poster banned.

[rhett o rick]

331. The problem as I see it is that this is intended to be a politically liberal message board.

Yet it seems to me that those who are the least politically liberal and holler the loudest get their way. So if a word offends them (no matter how few they are), look out.
And no one is saying that we want the rules to go away like Yahoo. No one says that. It's important that the rules keep things civil but not to deny speech just because a few people claim that all uses of a word, whether pejorative or not should be censored.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

356. Hey...how about giving me a trigger warning next time? The word Yahoo bothers me. ;)

[rhett o rick]

361. Sorry I didn't see it on the list. nm

[NaturalHigh]

367. Yep, I've always believed freedom of speech and expression...

to be a liberal concept.

[rhett o rick]

377. It's not necessary to throw out civility when we have liberal freedom of expression.

Those seeking self-righteous power use the rules to the extreme to wield their power.

[2banon]

274. The B word can both be used pejoratively or as a term of endearment among comrades in arms

People, especially Women (imo) need to have the good sense and a modicum of good humor to recognize the distinction is a significant difference .. or vice versa ..

[nadinbrzezinski]

275. The church of the eternally offended

would have their rears eternally burning among some of the local activists.

There are good quotes at times that cannot make it to a news story.

[2banon]

280. Ya know! Life is just way toooo short..

I'm gonna be 65 in the fall and I can't hardly believe it. I pretty much feel like I did in my 20's. but when I look in the mirror I'm reminded of just how precious every moment is..

... if this gens women don't get a grip on the outrage meter - turn in on when and where it really matters -(which it DOES matter in far too many areas culturally and geographically)... they're gonna burn out it in a very short time - ultimately be a hero to no one person or no single cause.

just my opinion of course... ymmv..

[nadinbrzezinski]

282. Well you have a clear split

and the ones here are not on the front lines, and those women can and do at times swear like sailors on leave, after getting ripped at the bar.

Those working class women, some middle class women, despise those who use language to avoid the discussion of real issues.

Now I need to do the story for Mrs. Clinton's launch.

Seems no transcript, so CSPAN will be.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?326471-1/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-announcement&live

[SMC22307]

338. Love this paragraph...

... if this gens women don't get a grip on the outrage meter - turn in on when and where it really matters -(which it DOES matter in far too many areas culturally and geographically)... they're gonna burn out it in a very short time - ultimately be a hero to no one person or no single cause.

Every now and then I think back to the young woman *micro-aggrieved* by lily-whites sporting dreads at a music festival. Perpetually offended, indeed.

(FWIW, middle-aged woman here.)

[2banon]

339. Thanks.. and yes.. I think this "dynamic" needs a deeper level of discussion.

Don't want to exaggerate the problem, but it's gotten way out of hand, imo.

[dgibby]

255. What you said! n/t

[rhett o rick]

314. I wish we could really discuss this here. I appreciate your view and agree. In some cases

it's not about being offended but about power. What sense of power one has to be able to censor those they declare offend them.

Here is my opinion. Words themselves don't hurt a soul. If you read them in a dictionary you don't burn the dictionary. If a child utters the word no one is offended. It's the intent behind the use of the word. There are lots of words that can be used in a pejorative manner that can also be used in a non-pejorative manner. I consider myself liberal and yet blame some liberals for trying too hard not to offend.

Here is an article that I'd like to get your opinion on: https://medium.com/@aristoNYC/social-justice-bullies-the-authoritarianism-of-millennial-social-justice-6bdb5ad3c9d3

A piece from the article:

 in attempting to solve pressing and important social issues, millennial social justice advocates are violently sabotaging genuine opportunities for progress by infecting a liberal political narrative with, ironically, hate.

[polly7]

317. That's it in a nutshell.

" in attempting to solve pressing and important social issues, millennial social justice advocates are violently sabotaging genuine opportunities for progress by infecting a liberal political narrative with, ironically, hate."

I haven't read the article yet, but that quote is spot on .... instead of gathering as many like-minded and sympathetic individuals together to fight those things that truly do hurt women, and everyone else, .... purposefully injecting hatred in to almost any conversation that might contain some word that could be found objectionable, only divides and weakens. Authoritarianism isn't acceptable to anyone I know - I don't know how some find that using it is beneficial to any one or any cause.

[2banon]

325. Yes, Hear! Here! Well Said..

[rhett o rick]

327. Yes some of the problem is authoritarianism, which I think enters into a lot of

our problems today, and I also blame some liberals that IMO are so afraid of hurting someone's feelings that they can be manipulated into some pretty ridiculous corners.

[2banon]

320. The title alone articulates the problem exactly

Just a quick comment..because i'm in the middle of something else, I want to return to this as soon as I'm able, because this subject matter has sparked a certain level of concern in me, especially in light of what happened here on du just last week with another longtime member and comrade..

I think this does deserve addressing on a deeper level. I'm encouraged to see shared concerns are viewed elsewhere, and given enough thought to writing an analysis, certainly worthy of a focused read.

cuz ya know, this shite is way out of hand. and I think your point as regards POWER is very interesting and may just be the underpinning pathos (for lack of a better term at hand) involved. .

let's talk more on this soon. maybe it's own thread. ? !

[rhett o rick]

347. You are being nice phrasing it like that. nm

[Divernan]

111. Comfy chair/fainting couch/clutchable pearls/smelling salts

whatevs. Basically it comes down to whom you may be obliquely, possibly referring to, and the luck of the jury draw.

I almost forgot to say, welcome the hell back!

[hobbit709]

175. Evidently you never watched Monty Python.

[kath]

225. Yes, a real "whoosh!" On that one!

[2banon]

187. "The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended strike again" ! :)

That's perfect!

[GoneOffShore]

222. The Brothers and Sisters of the Church of Easily, Perpetually and Frequently Outraged and Offended.

With the sub chapter of the Chapel of Words Mean What I Want Them To Mean Acolytes.

[hifiguy]

245. Lordy lu, that was brilliant!

I am so glad to see the mass pushback against these cheapjack Stalinist bullies!

The worst thing ever done on DU was giving those goons a protected group. They should have been tombstoned en masse instead.

[R B Garr]

246. Yeah, I laughed when I read the MRA types alert on the word 'douchebags'

They even follow one guy around who uses that word towards them because they get madder than wet hens about it. You are so right about those "goons".

[2banon]

285. Couldn't have said it better myself!

[GoneOffShore]

288. Thank you.

Hope you're on the jury when that gets alerted.

[2banon]

289. let's hope it doesn't devolve there. :)

folks here need to get a grip and sense of humor for mental health. it's like remembering to eat plenty of fruit and vegies - I think there's a serious depletion in that dept. dunno.

[nadinbrzezinski]

290. Hat tip sir, BRILLIANT

[kentauros]

195. "You're lucky I'm Church of England!"

[Jester Messiah]

318. They never let up, do they?

You'd think that much outrage would wear a person out after a while.

[NaturalHigh]

326. "You'd think that much outrage would wear a person out after a while."

It's actually an exception to generally accepted laws of physics. Whoever says that perpetual motion cannot exist has never seen the outrage machine in action.

[Le Taz Hot]

39. OMG, they alerted????

ROFLMAO!!!

Dear Alerter: I am female in possession of a T-shirt with the following slogan: "You call me a bitch like it's a bad thing."

Are we getting a clue yet?

[kentauros]

41. I hope so!

And yes, welcome back with such a great opening!

[NaturalHigh]

70. "OMG, they alerted????"

You really haven't been around much lately. Of course they alerted. According to a few, "that word" is reason for a tombstone. Boggles the mind.

[pintobean]

71. And I'm a guy

and I assumed you were calling me a bitch, too. If it's directed at both men and women, is it misogynist?

[NaturalHigh]

107. I assumed the same thing.

Funny how I wasn't offended.

[R B Garr]

244. Psst. Just don't call the MRA types "douchebags", because

they get real offended by that and send all kinds of alerts to get people on time outs.

Seriously! You can't make that shit up.

[pintobean]

250. Seriously, I think you have.

[R B Garr]

254. Seriously, you are one of his biggest fans. Just don't say "douchebag",

or the Men's Rights types get a bee in their bonnet. Hilarious the double standards.

[pintobean]

262. That member has only one post hidden for that

in the current list. The other four hides are for other types of attacks and slurs. When he was in time-out for mostly using that word, it was repeatedly directed at a female member, a grandmother. I don't know what "Men's Rights types" are, but I don't think they are necessarily the alerters on those posts. How would we know?

[R B Garr]

263. LOL, like that is the only "list". There were others, as you know

because you follow him around. All the MRA folks were madder than wet hens about the word "douchebag".

It's just hilarious that this whole thread is full of double standards, like you saying alerters are unknown but the innuendos in this thread are so sure of the "witches" who are really alerting. Hilarious.

Anyway, I'm not into simpletons. Enjoy your "witchhunt", lol.

[pintobean]

265. Sounds like a self control issue

if he keeps getting hidden for the same thing over and over. Community standards appear to say that's a no-no. Unless these mysterious "men's rights types" are somehow stacking all of those juries.


Meanwhile, the alerts in this thread keep failing, and you're doing a lot of complaining about it.

[NaturalHigh]

324. Who and what are you even talking about?

Link? Was this a movie you saw or something? You seem obsessed my those scary "MRA types."

[NaturalHigh]

307. I must not be an MRA type then.

Really, you can call me pretty much whatever you want and I won't alert. I just won't answer back because the people who like to toss around insults are the ones hoping to provoke a response and then alert. I'll let you figure out which crowd uses those tactics.

The only ones I've ever seen offended by the d-bag word are the same ones offended by the b-word or the c-word.

[mythology]

224. I think it can be

If the word is used to indicate that a guy is being perceived as being "weak" or feminine. Much like calling a guy a pussy to say that he's like a woman would be misogynistic.

That said for me it is highly context dependent. As a guy I don't feel comfortable calling people bitches (particularly in such a public forum), but I also can't be bothered to get worked up over the word by itself if clearly it's not about denigrating women.

[Ichingcarpenter]

76. glad you are back

love your spice.

[dixiegrrrrl]

91. As I used to tell the mostly male court referred clients in evening group....

(they were a surly lot)

A "bitch" is ...a Broad In Total Control of Herself.

That stopped any name calling.

[hifiguy]

145. Blammo.

[Playinghardball]

102. ROFLMAO

[2banon]

194. I Want one!!!

BTW, I didn't know you before you left, but I sure the hell welcome you back and look forward to future posts from ya.. LOVE this OP btw!!! Love it!

[notadmblnd]

214. I know. Right?

[mnhtnbb]

53. I knew it!

[Jesus Malverde]

202. Some people are extremely conservative and rigid in their thinking.

bizarre and sad.

[sabrina 1]

209. I wonder if those who throw around the word 'misogynist' so freely that it has lost any meaning btw,

claiming that 'words hurt' ever think that THEY have hurt many people by falsely accusing good democratic men of being something they are not?

Of course in the RW none of this is relevant to anything, women are concerned about real issues, such as surviving from day to day while no matter how qualified they are, they won't be paid equal salaries to men.

Not to mention all the other issues they are dealing with.

Good jury decision btw.

[hifiguy]

220. How DARE you bring up real world issues?!

Everybody knows that what happens on an Internet discussion board is the most important thing in the world!

[nadinbrzezinski]

238. Like really

(in the best valley girl impersonation)

[hifiguy]

240. You and Sabrina are two of

the big reasons the Sisters will not run me off. You, Willy T, octafish, Kentuck, cali, warren de M and so many more are why it is worth fighting the good fight. Fight on, my friends, fight on. DU is too good yo surrender to the likes of them.

[Hissyspit]

293. Excuse to post this:

[Stinky The Clown]

319. Hahaha

I see a member of the Church of Wrung Hands was on that jury!

[Le Taz Hot]

330. OK, I've just GOT to share.

I got called on the carpet about my use of the word "bitch" in my title via pm by someone who is well-known on this board I won't copy what she wrote to me, and my first response to her was fairly mild and polite. But then she kept pushing, wanting me to, essentially, side with her and her group and she asked my opinion. This was my response:

OK, that's it. Your name was not mentioned and the thread IS a light-hearted welcome back, glad to see old friends kind of thread when some asshole(s) alerted for stupid, stupid shit. So, yeah, when people act like dipshit tight asses other people are going to make fun of them.

I've been a feminist since the 1960's and will put up my feminist/activist creds up against ANYONE'S on this board. Anyone. I've walked the walk for over 40 years and this is what I have to say to you -- you're making the rest of us look bad. They're making fun of the tight-asses who proclaim themselves as spokespersons for the entire feminist movement and for the feminists on this board when in reality, you all don't have a fucking clue.

You accuse people willy nilly of misogyny so often that the word has become meaningless and elicits ridicule. YOU did that!

I'm not interested in your inter-nicene spats because this is a discussion board and people have different opinions and they express them. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree but reacting like each and every disagreement with regards to women is a personal affront to you or some Group on DU IS joke-worthy. You know this and you know your temper tantrums are ineffective so one has to question, why do you REALLY do it? I could probably give it a good guess but, seriously, I'm not that interested.

You wanted my opinion? Well, as Dylan once said, "Don't ask me nothin' about nothin', I just might tell you the truth." You just got it.

LTH

[polly7]

335. Woot!

What a great reply.

[Le Taz Hot]

336. I thought so.

[hifiguy]

343. + a Brazilian.

Hi Polly!

[polly7]

354. Hi hifi!

Reading this thread is like fresh air coming in through an open window, isn't it? I like it. Very glad she's back.

[hifiguy]

364. A long drink of crystalline, ice cold spring water

after a trek through the desert it is.

[pintobean]

337. Kick

ass!

[kentauros]

341. I absolutely agree with the overuse of the misogyny tag.

Perhaps they'd do better taking it to tumblr

[opiate69]

357. Ooooooooohh......

(Do we get a prize if we can guess who it was?? I'm betting we can get it in three or less guesses lol)

[hifiguy]

365. You won't get very long odds on that bet.

There are some blindingly obvious candidates and it's a short list.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

372. I challenge the person to whom that brilliance was directed to speak up and respond. I

bet all we'll hear is crickets.

To that person, you were soundly humiliated and we know who you are. So, let's hear what you have to say in response.

Welcome back, LTH!!! Glad to see you again

[newfie11]

64. Yeah be careful with that word

Some people come unglued with it. I know from experience.

[Gregorian]

4. B&

[Cooley Hurd]

6. I love it!

Yo Le Taz! Welcome back!

[Le Taz Hot]

13. Thank you m'dear.

Good to see you. It's nice to see names with which I'm familiar.

[blm]

25. I know…….

lately, it feels like I'm often searching for the old guard just to get back to saner (and FAR more humorous) ground.

[marym625]

256. seems as though humor has been banned

along with certain words. Some people seem to think, judging from some of the alerts here, free thought has also been banned.

My favorite quote is from Carl Sandburg, "Slang is a language that rolls up its sleeves, spits on its hands and goes to work."


"The Unholy Church Of The Perpetually Offended" was hilarious.

[CrawlingChaos]

7. I'm glad you're back!

I've always enjoyed your posts

Go Bernie!

[Le Taz Hot]

15. Thank you.

'preciate it.

[malaise]

9. Welcome back

[Le Taz Hot]

16. Hey, Mal!

Great to see you!

[WilliamPitt]

14. Let the million flowers bloom.

[Le Taz Hot]

17. Hey, WP.

I like your new sig line.

Hope all is well with the Ms. Lola.

[WilliamPitt]

19. Lean, mean and green.

Her poops, I mean.



She's grand, thanks so much for asking.

Welcome back. You were missed.

[MisterP]

123. *runs phrase through anagram generator to make sure it's not pro-rape*

[cali]

24. Welcome the fuck back

[Le Taz Hot]

27. ROFLMAO!

It's good to be the fuck back! You and I have had some good ones, cali. Glad to see you're still here.

[cali]

77. And we will in the future, too

If it's not too soppy....

[Le Taz Hot]

113. Lookin' forward to it, sistah!

[AtomicKitten]

26. Glad to have you back.

Cheers.

[Le Taz Hot]

28. Thank you, AK.

Is that a Bernie Sanders avatar? If so, I must have!

[AtomicKitten]

54. here you go ... take your pick

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12805052

And please join the Bernie Sanders group at the link.

[Le Taz Hot]

61. Thank you!

You KNOW I'll be joinin that forum!

[hifiguy]

247. Tsk. Don't you know Bernie is a racist and

Probably a closet sexist too? What does that 100% rating from NARAL mean? He doesn't have any credibility because he doesny have a vagina, dammit!!! Aren't you paying attention?

There are idiots here. Far too many.

[sabrina 1]

304. You've been away so you probably don't know this, but 'Bernie has messy hair'. Lol!

Optics! Very important, we are told!

See you in the Bernie Group and welcome back!

#FeelTheBern

[Iggo]

29. Stone cold sober?

[Le Taz Hot]

31. Now, I think we both know better . . .

[Iggo]

34. ...as a matter of fact.

[JaneyVee]

30. Back from where?

[Le Taz Hot]

35. Wandering the iternetz . . .

looking for another site that didn't make my blood pressure rise. I found out something: It doesn't exist,

[NaturalHigh]

100. "It doesn't exist"...

No kidding - I still get angry at Bleacher Report.

On edit: Happy to be Post #100 and kick your Welcome Back Party back to the front page!

[olddots]

32. and a hearty Welcome the fuck back from me too !

Get ready to rumble. its primary time where we all get primarily moronic .

[Le Taz Hot]

37. Well, then, I'm in my element.

Besides, I love primary time around here.

[pintobean]

36. Good!

Good to see you.

[Le Taz Hot]

42. Hey, pinto.

Como esta frijoles, frijole? (California Chicken Spanish translated to English: "How you bean, bean?)

[hfojvt]

40. like a Union Jack?

I don't believe it.

[Le Taz Hot]

44. or like herpes . . .

it all depends on your perspective, I suppose.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. hi

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. I like your style.

"OK, Bitches. I'm back"....that goes a long way toward erasing some of the non-real-world hand-wringing that's been taking the place over recently. What a breath of fresh air. Welcome back, LTH.

[Le Taz Hot]

47. Ah, has DU been tempoarily taken over by the

Brothers/Sisters of Perpetual Hand Wringing again? Good to see you, Disgustipated . . .

[bvar22]

46. Ooooh! You said a BAD word,

and have, no doubt, sent some members of DU to their Fainting Couches.

" you have been a bad, bad boy for using that word,
and Mother is very mad at you.
In fact, this is the maddest that Mother has EVER been."----Virginia Madsen, The Hot Spot, just before she killed her husband by "riding" him to death.

[Le Taz Hot]

50. They already alerted on me

but it didn't stick. Thank goddess we still have some DUers here who have a sense of humor.

[NaturalHigh]

87. I've never even heard of that movie. Is it any good?

[bvar22]

295. I wouldn't put it in the top 10,

..but it is a favorite of mine.

1990
Don Johnson
Virginia Madsen
Jennifer Connelly

Drama, Crime, double crosses, & Intrigue in a small Southern town.
I thought it was extremely well done.
Virginia Madsen and Don Johnson do well together.
They are both "hustlers", and manage to get entangled.

Rotten Tomatoes only gave it a 71%, but my wife and I give it a 90%.
It is currently playing every so often on the cable channels.
Hope you like it.

If you DO watch it, you WILL recognize the line I quoted.
Madsen is a scary lady when she wants to be.
In fact, in this movie, she was a total B*tch.
Maybe even the definitive B*tch.
(I'm afraid to write out the word "bitch" because of the swift and total retribution).

My wife and I still use lines from that move.
It has one of the best ending scenes ever.

[NaturalHigh]

308. I'll check it out then.

Don Johnson has always been one of my favorites. I was a huge Miami Vice fan.

[boston bean]

49. Wonderful

[NaturalHigh]

58. I sense sarcasm in your post.

[Le Taz Hot]

72. Now, now,

BB has always loved me. He/She's just shy and being coy.

[NaturalHigh]

92. I know exactly how you feel.

[polly7]

74. Refreshing, isn't it?! nt.

[sabrina 1]

302. Very refreshing, and makes you feel like maybe you are in the real world here after all.

[polly7]

305. That's exactly what it feels like.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

374. Oh, THERE you are. Refer upthread, there's an interesting exchange you may be interested in. nt

[kentuck]

51. Welcome back! We need a few more hell-raisers around here.

[Le Taz Hot]

75. Hey, kentuck!

Really good to see you again!

[kentuck]

82. You too!

[countryjake]

52. OMG, now I'm scarified!

Welcome back, Taz!

[Le Taz Hot]

83. Holy cripes!

Now that's some gitfiddle playin'! Good to see you, CJ.

[awoke_in_2003]

98. That kid is something else. nt

[kentuck]

143. She's great!

[MerryBlooms]

55. !

[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[NaturalHigh]

56. Now who are you again?

I don't remember if I liked you or not. You do make a spectacular entry, though.

[Le Taz Hot]

85. Funny, I was going to say the same thing about you . . .

[Jack Rabbit]

59. Welcome back

!!

[Le Taz Hot]

88. Thank you, Jack Rabbit.

Really good to see you again.

[Alittleliberal]

62. Thank god

You've been missed dearly.

[Le Taz Hot]

90. Thank you.

It's good to be back.

[Initech]

65. Please pass the butter!

[kentauros]

89. Yeah!

This is a fast-growing thread and there's already been two alerts

[Le Taz Hot]

94. TWO alerts?

Dayum! How many times can I get alerted on for using the "b" word? (Jayzus, are we reduced to using letter+"word" now?) what the hell happened to the grown ups?

[Divernan]

117. No words beginning with "c" or letters rhyming with "c"!

[kentauros]

197. Then merely stay out of the sea, Divernan

sea (n.)
Old English sæ "sheet of water, sea, lake, pool," from Proto-Germanic *saiwaz (cognates: Old Saxon seo, Old Frisian se, Middle Dutch see, Swedish sjö), of unknown origin, outside connections "wholly doubtful" {Buck}. Meaning "large quantity" (of anything) is from c. 1200. Meaning "dark area of the moon's surface" is attested from 1660s (see mare (n.2)).

Germanic languages also use the general Indo-European word (represented by English mere (n.)), but have no firm distinction between "sea" and "lake," either by size, by inland or open, or by salt vs. fresh. This may reflect the Baltic geography where the languages are thought to have originated. The two words are used more or less interchangeably in Germanic, and exist in opposite senses (such as Gothic saiws "lake," marei "sea;" but Dutch zee "sea," meer "lake&quot . Compare also Old Norse sær "sea," but Danish sø, usually "lake" but "sea" in phrases. German See is "sea" (fem.) or "lake" (masc.). The single Old English word sæ glosses Latin mare, aequor, pontus, pelagus, and marmor.

Phrase sea change "transformation" is attested from 1610, first in Shakespeare ("The Tempest," I.ii). Sea anemone is from 1742; sea legs is from 1712; sea level from 1806; sea urchin from 1590s. At sea in the figurative sense of "perplexed" is attested from 1768, from literal sense of "out of sight of land" (c. 1300).

[Warpy]

189. Grownups are no longer welcome, I guess

The word nannies are only happy when they manage to bully children.

[kentauros]

190. Only one alert on your OP.

hobbit709 got the second one

And this is for your enjoyment and further amusement:

bitch (n.)
Old English bicce "female dog," probably from Old Norse bikkjuna "female of the dog" (also fox, wolf, and occasionally other beasts), which is of unknown origin. Grimm derives the Old Norse word from Lapp pittja, but OED notes that "the converse is equally possible." As a term of contempt applied to women, it dates from c. 1400; of a man, c. 1500, playfully, in the sense of "dog." Used among male homosexuals from 1930s. In modern (1990s, originally black English) slang, its use with reference to a man is sexually contemptuous, from the "woman" insult.

BITCH. A she dog, or doggess; the most offensive appellation that can be given to an English woman, even more provoking than that of whore. {"Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1811}

Bitch goddess coined 1906 by William James; the original one was success.

bitch (v.)
"to complain," attested at least from 1930, perhaps from the sense in bitchy, perhaps influenced by the verb meaning "to bungle, spoil," which is recorded from 1823. But bitched in this sense seems to echo Middle English bicched "cursed, bad," a general term of opprobrium (as in Chaucer's bicched bones "unlucky dice&quot , which despite the hesitation of OED, seems to be a derivative of bitch (n.).

bitchy (adj.)
1925, U.S. slang, "sexually provocative;" later (1930s) "spiteful, catty, bad-tempered" (usually of females); from bitch + -y (2). Earlier in reference to male dogs though to look less rough or coarse than usual.

Mr. Ramsay says we would now call the old dogs "bitchy" in face. That is because the Englishmen have gone in for the wrong sort of forefaces in their dogs, beginning with the days when Meersbrook Bristles and his type swept the judges off their feet and whiskers and an exaggerated face were called for in other varieties of terriers besides the wire haired fox. {James Watson, "The Dog Book," New York, 1906}

Related: Bitchily; bitchiness.

[polly7]

66. Welcome back.

Your title made me laugh, 'Ok, Bitches' is one of my friend's favourite lines. When she says it, we know there's some serious mischief to be embarked on.

[AlbertCat]

68. Wait!

I thought "bitch" was a deeply offending word never to be used.

Watch it or you'll offend someone!!!!...... or something......

[OnyxCollie]

69. Huzzah!

[yuiyoshida]

78. Did you join???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1280

[JDPriestly]

80. Shall we all sing "Sweet Adeline" and remember the good ol' days

together? Onward and Upward.

Welcome back.

[Le Taz Hot]

96. I know!

We can have a reunion at Olive Garden. Is anybody breast feeding? This is an essential element to the experience.

[JDPriestly]

104. No. That's part of the good ol' days -- the breast feeding.

I'm in the grandmother phase of life. It's even more exciting than breast feeding at the Olive Garden.

And by the way, watch the sexist epithets. They can get us banned nowadays. Just an update. I'm not personally offended but you don't want to get on anybody's downside.

[Le Taz Hot]

130. Yeah, me too.

Except for the whole having kids/grandkids/breast feeding part. I turn 60 this year! Ggggggahhhhh!!!!!! I already got alerted on but it didn't take.

You know, they told me I was going to mellow with age. Goddess, were they wrong!

[hifiguy]

149. But any mention of the Fried Chicken Wars or the Moon Bombing

will not be tolerated!!

[dgibby]

258. Only if they serve cornflake coated chicken!

I have my standards -they're not very high, but I do have them! Soooooo glad you're back!

[Le Taz Hot]

260. Cornflake coated chicken??

What the hell have they been doing over in that Cooking & Baking group?

[kentauros]

369. Probably hanging out at the

Olive Garden Food Truck

[KamaAina]

81. Nice post, Elton John!

[ms liberty]

86. so happy to see you back!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

93. I'm glad to see you back.

[Le Taz Hot]

105. Good to see you again, T Y L

Still fighting the Good Fight?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

122. I think you will add to chorus in the good fight.

[Cleita]

95. Hi Taz. Too bad we didn't get Elizabeth but Bernie is a good alternative.

I gave your book to my local library because they didn't have a copy of it in this RW enclave of the state.

[Le Taz Hot]

120. I know, but I'm good with Bernie.

As broke as I am I'm sending him $35.00 a month. And I'm SO glad you passed on the book to your local library. It SHOULD be read by many many people even if she isn't running.

[riversedge]

99. Hillary Clinton on Free Trade (some article)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Free_Trade.htm
Hillary Clinton on Free Trade



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/30/hillary-clinton-trans-pacific-partnership_n_7173108.html

Hillary Clinton Agrees With Elizabeth Warren On Trade Dispute With Obama
Posted: 04/30/2015 12:00 am EDT Updated: 04/30/2015 11:59 am EDT


Hillary Clinton is opposed to a critical piece of the Obama administration's Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would give corporations the right to sue sovereign nations over laws or regulations that could potentially curb their profits. .....





http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/politics/hillary-clinton-trade-issues-iowa-trip/

Clinton finds problems with Obama TPP trade proposal

By Eric Bradner, CNN

Updated 7:32 PM ET, Tue May 19, 2015
Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies

Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies 05:24

Cedar Falls, Iowa (CNN)Hillary Clinton took aim Tuesday at two core components of a massive free trade pact that President Barack Obama is negotiating — signaling some agreement with the deal's liberal critics.

The Democratic front-runner in the 2016 presidential race said she wants to see rules included in the Trans-Pacific Partnership that would penalize countries for driving down the value of their currencies in order to give their exports a price advantage in the U.S. market.

And she said she's concerned about a provision that would give "corporations more power to overturn health and environmental and labor rules than consumers have."

"I think that is a problem," Clinton said during a roundtable event in Iowa, when one woman participating in the event asked her about the deal.

It's as close to staking out a clear position on the trade deal that Clinton has come — though she left wiggle room Tuesday.

"I want to judge the final agreement.......

[Le Taz Hot]

103. Jesus god.

Pro Sense. Is that you?

I'm enjoying saying hi to old friends at the moment to start a discussion on how inane this post is.

[riversedge]

110. Bernie Sanders: “I’m Not Running Against Hillary Clinton” http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/26/bern

Bernie says it all. Learn. Enough said.

Bernie Sanders: “I’m Not Running Against Hillary Clinton” http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/26/bernie-sanders-im-not-running-against-hillary-clinton/ … via @HillaryMojo

[Le Taz Hot]

116. The Cheerleaders Recovery Group

is down the hall and to the right. But I think you're just downright precious anyway.

[riversedge]

144. well thany --you little sweetiepie

[Divernan]

196. Would you call Hillary a little sweetiepie? Because that's a diminutive term

And the latest is that she wants to be called a tough mother. On the other hand, a preview of her speech tomorrow from her staff is that she'll handle corporations by "coaxing" them.

The cognitive dissonance is so thick in the air tonight.

Seriously, doesn't she have someone to screen the various spins so they are not contradictory?
Right hand meet left hand/too many cooks/who's in charge here, and so forth.
You can't make this stuff up, and to prove I'm not making anything up, here are the links:

Star Member applegrove (67,332 posts)

Why Does Hillary Clinton Want To Be President?

Taegan Goddard at the Political Wire

http://politicalwire.com/2015/06/12/why-does-hillary-clinton-want-to-be-president/

"SNIP...............
Clinton’s staff believes this is where the campaign will be won or lost—it will signal to voters, and to ideologically driven Obama donors, that she’s every bit as committed to their cause as Eliza“Clinton’s big speech will be a rare opportunity to change that narrative. It will be held at New York’s Roosevelt Island—a none-to-subtle signal that she’s aligning herself with FDR, the boldest of Democratic presidents and the one who established the deepest personal connection with voters—something Clinton has struggled to do throughout her three-decade career. And she’ll do so with a broad progressive agenda, her advisers told me, studded with policy proposals to be unveiled in greater depth in a series of speeches this summer, starting with an ambitious plan to cut student debt and lower tuition and a program to coax corporations into paying their workers more.

Star Member Skinner (60,351 posts)
Hillary Clinton is One Tough Mother
One Tough Mother
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is going to sell her as a fighter like no other.
By John Dickerson, Slate
Tough mother. That’s both the theme of Hillary Clinton’s big speech on Saturday and the emerging theme of her campaign.

Does no one in her campaign have a dictionary?
"coaxing corporations"? COAXING ?!?

Yeah, the masters of the universe heading corporations & financial institutions just need a little sweet talk . . . . Because, you know, when they are battling head-to-head with corporate takeovers, or renegotiating union contracts and the like, all those movers and shakers, members of the One Percent, etc. rely on those 3 credit MBA programs they took titled: How to Coax, or Coaxing 101, or The Role of Coaxing in Corporate Governance, or Turning on the Charm for Fun and Profit.

And golly, what a super strategy for HRC to use when confronting the head of a hostile government, or telling the Joint Chiefs what to do. Not to mention dealing with recalcitrant GOP majorities in the House or Senate.

Here we have an early indicator of the quality of advisor putting together her campaign strategy - addressing the problem of appearing progressive without pissing off or otherwise alarming all those multi-million dollar donors. We'll just use the term "coax". Yeah, that's the ticket!

And furthermore, since the term is defined as gently urging and flattering, cajoling, pleading, etc., it's a gross insult to a woman candidate. Hey, just use those old feminine wiles! What's plan B - bat one's eyes?


Coax | Definition of coax by Merriam-Webster
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coaxCached

Full Definition of COAX. transitive verb. 1. obsolete: fondle, pet. 2: to influence or gently urge by caressing or flattering : wheedle <coaxed him into going>
coax - definition of coax by The Free Dictionary
www.thefreedictionary.com/coaxCached

coax 1 (kōks) v. coaxed, coax·ing, coax·es. v.tr. 1. To persuade or try to persuade by pleading or flattery; cajole. 2. To obtain by persistent persuasion: coaxed ...
Coax | Define Coax at Dictionary.com
dictionary.reference.com/browse/coaxCached

verb (used with object) 1. to attempt to influence by gentle persuasion, flattery, etc.; cajole: He coaxed her to sing, but she refused.
www.thefreedictionary.com/
coax - definition of coax in English from the...
www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/coaxCached

www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/coax

When you coax someone, you try to convince him gently, with pleasant words and maybe a little flattery. You’ll have to be patient, as you can’t rush someone

[riversedge]

204. oh Hillary is nice sweetiepie

[GoneOffShore]

221. So, you're buying a bridge in Brooklyn?

Or real estate in Florida?

[riversedge]

230. oh, I just have all 21 obsessions...

Enjoy

http://www.hillarymojo.com/2015/05/29/21-signs-you-are-obsessed-with-hillary-clinton/

[passiveporcupine]

169. Hillary Clinton's 'evolving' policies 05:24

Why are they only evolving during campaign events?

I seriously hope she is "evolving" but I see nothing to show for it except her words and words aren't worth much to most politicians once the campaign has been won.


Anyway, back on topic...Taz, I may not know you, but I sure do welcome you back. We need you!

[rhett o rick]

350. Please try to be fair. HRC found problems with Obama's TPP. There were clearly to many "the" used.

But she wants to hold off final decision until after the debates. Or is it the debate? I heard the DNC is working it down to one and limited to those under the age of 70.

[awoke_in_2003]

101. Welcome back, Taz

[hifiguy]

106. Welcome back.

The flameproof suits are available for $129.95 at AxMan Discount Surplus.... You're gonna need one these days

[Le Taz Hot]

131. I don't need no steenking suit,

I'm a political junkie, I grew scales years ago.

[hifiguy]

157. I know whatcha mean.

Ten years at DU has given me the hide of a rhino. Don't even mind those little birds pecking at me.

[Rex]

108. You better watch out!

You can get clobbered with no warning now...or you can get many timeouts if you play your cards right.

[kath]

226. Yep - a forced timeout, then a virtual tickertape parade to welcome you back!

(If you play things right) It's awesome!

[calimary]

109. Just happy you're back!

That's all I need to know!

[Renew Deal]

112. Welcome back

[99Forever]

115. Welcome back Taz.

Love your spunk, go get 'em girl.

[bluesbassman]

119. Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends...

We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside!

Nice to see you back Le Taz Hot.

[Le Taz Hot]

129. Brain Salad Surgery

One of the greatest albums evah! Good to see you, bluesbassman. Still playing, I hope?

[bluesbassman]

147. Yes indeed! I was lucky enough to see them perform it at the California Jam in '74.

Yep, still and for a long time to come I hope! Glad to see you too!

[Le Taz Hot]

156. Holy shit!

Are you kidding me??? I was there! I kid you not. Ontario Motor Speedway. Not enough bathrooms and little plastic bottles of Kool Aid selling for $5.00 a pop. I remember Keith Emerson Endo-ing with his entire keyboard. Earth Wind and Fire, Rare Earth and Linda Lovelace. Those are the only other acts I can remember. Must have been something in that sugar cube with the pink coloring on it that I consumed that makes things a little hazy. Wow! I've never talked to anyone else that was there other than my own party.

[bluesbassman]

170. Hell yeah!

Way cool that you were there too! My three buddies and I drove my red '65 Pontiac Bonneville convertible down from the Bay Area and we got there the night before and parked about a hundred feet from the main gate. We brought a couple of house speakers with us and wired them into the 8-track and stuck 'em up in the boot with the top down. We began playing music that was was so loud people from all over the parking lot began bringing us tapes to play and offering various forms of consumables as payment. By the time the gates opened up early in the morning, we were well buzzed and ready to enjoy the show

Those white plastic bottles are something I'll never forget. After DP played, it took so long for ELP's stage to get set up that people were getting bored and restless and began tossing the bottles around and it soon turned into a frenzy. We were camped up near the stage, and looking out over the crowd it was like being inside a giant popcorn maker with all of the empty bottles flying around!

Truly one of the greatest concerts I ever attended, with ELP, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, and the rest... Magic! Small world that you were there too!

[Le Taz Hot]

180. So, you're not going to believe this . . .

we drove over in my very first car, a '65 Mustang convertible that I bought for $600.00. I lived in So. Cal. at the time so we just came over from Downey. I came with my boyfriend at the time, a girlfriend and her boyfriend. We took the freeway to Ontario but by 9:00 that night the freeway was a parking lot. And like you guys, people were passing around consumables because everyone was out of their cars since we weren't going anywhere. We were there for a LONG time. By the time they opened the gates we were fairly close to the gate but ended up about halfway back on the right as you're facing the stage. I seriously don't even remember Deep Purple and only slightly remember Black Sabbath.

[hifiguy]

158. You LUCKY dog.

I saw the tour in person back in the day but the Cal Jam had to be freaking epic. Deep Purple put on one hell of a show there, too. from a fellow bass player.

[Le Taz Hot]

162. Deep Purple was there?

Damn!!!

[hifiguy]

165. I remember the teevee show of it well

Ritchie got a little, erm, perturbed, with one of the cameraman getting too close to him on stage and bashed the living shit out of one of the cameras, trashing one of his many Strats in the process.

[bluesbassman]

171. Yeah, Ritchie shoved the peghead of his Strat right into the lens!

Thing arced and smoked, and the crowd went nuts!

[hifiguy]

174. He was noted for his short fuse and LARGE charge

in his younger days.

ETA: though the assault on the cameraman seems not to be in this clip, its definitely the same solol

[bluesbassman]

179. Yes, that and his ability to play the hell out of a Stratocaster.

[hifiguy]

182. Loved him to death back in the day and still do.

A superb technician who also had the emotional fire so many of today's young speed demons are lacking. You never needed to wonder about Ritchie's mood anytime he was on stage


He's still doing mondo cool music:, and yes. that stunning blonde singer is his wife.

[bluesbassman]

186. Cool stuff!

[abakan]

309. Absolutely perfect!

Thanks for reminding me of an old favorite.

[Skittles]

121. you want I should kick your returning, bitching ass, Le Taz Hot?

LEMME AT YOU!!!

[Le Taz Hot]

137. Yeahhh!!!!!! Skittles!!!!

I'm bending my fat ass over as we speak. Give it to me, baby!

[Skittles]

150. I WILL RESUME YOUR ACCOUNT AS A PAYING CUSTOMER

YES INDEED

[tularetom]

124. You didn't leave in a snit, did you?

Go out with a big "goodbye cruel world" post to try to make us feel bad for dissing you?

Aw, it doesn't matter, good to have ya back.

[Le Taz Hot]

142. No . . .

If I recall correctly I wished everyone well. I had just had it with the "cracker" shit. But, as it turned out, other sites are just as sucky as this one so here I am.

[riderinthestorm]

125. Yay!

[progressoid]

126. Love it.

One simple post and already two alerts.

Welcome back!

[underpants]

127. Get me a beer bitch

[skepticscott]

133. And yet another alert

On Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:16 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Get me a beer bitch
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6824890

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Sexist. Not funny.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 12, 2015, 06:22 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: OFFS! The OP survived the jury as did other posts. Just hide the damned thread if it bothers you.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The thread is full of this, starting with the OP. Not a word I would necessarily sanction in other contexts, but this post is directed at her, and the alert is over a word she used herself, so it's hard to see how she could object. Anyone else objecting to the use of "bitch" on principle shouldn't have clicked on this thread to begin with.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Saw this thread earlier, Figured this would happen hide
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Really?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Given the light-hearted nature of the post and poster using the OP's own language, I'm voting to leave alone.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[underpants]

146. #2 & #6 got the joke

[Glassunion]

159. #6 checking in...

Ignore my signature.

[skepticscott]

172. #2 at your service

[rhett o rick]

349. And #3 makes a statement, "Saw this thread earlier, Figured this would happen"

And it happened just as they feared, chaos. Political liberals should know better.

[L0oniX]

153. The place is being swarmed with fucked up blog nannies.

[Throckmorton]

163. you said blog nannies

I am sore afraid of blog nannies, that's a trigger phrase for me.

[L0oniX]

164. Super blog nannies?

Saw yer sig line

[hifiguy]

167. I see what you did there.

[Cleita]

199. My you are polite. You should hear what we call them off line. eom

[BeyondGeography]

201. No shit

Who are these people and what do they want?

[bvar22]

298. There are those who want to carpet the World...

...instead of putting on slippers and going about their day.

[NaturalHigh]

312. Oh good grief. How many alert trolls have their sights on this thread?

[rhett o rick]

366. If you can't discuss issues then why are you here but to disrupt? They don't like

what is said so they alert, lock, hide, ban and the ultimate orgasmic grave-dance. Relishing the misfortune of others is very conservative. These "alert trolls" as you call them, have all the characteristics of conservatives.

[Le Taz Hot]

148. Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

I'll get you a beer. Bend over.

[underpants]

154. +

Nice to see your back

[Glassunion]

160. "You're"

Big fucking difference. Unless that was your intent based on the delivery route that was recommended for the beer.

[cui bono]

313. You're right. It is a big "fucking" difference.

[Oilwellian]

128. Welcome back, Le Taz Hot

You make quite the grand entry.

[trof]

132. Give 'em hell.

[Half-Century Man]

134. Welcome back

I cant believe this took this long to post.

[niyad]

135. welcome back. this is going to be fun!

[still_one]

136. DU is made up Democrats and progressives, so if you think DU is so sucky, then I assume it is

because not everyone expresses themselves that is in agreement to your way of thinking

Wow, what progress thought, NOT

[Le Taz Hot]

166. Dude, seriously,

have a hit, sit back and get yer mellow on. It's Friday!

[still_one]

207. cool

[rhett o rick]

351. You are making some wild assumptions there. Yes the majority of DU posters are progressives as

can be seen in this thread. I am guessing that's not the reason she left.

It should be noted here that this thread most likely goes against the grain of the conservatives in DU and they have alerted trying desperately to shut down such wicked open-mindedness.

[frylock]

139. what an entrance!

[Buns_of_Fire]

140. Such a return REALLY needs the official theme song...

Welcome back!

[L0oniX]

151. The jury welcomes you the fuck back too.

[WillyT]

152. Yaaaay Le Taz !!! - WooHoo !!!

[Le Taz Hot]

168. WillyT!

My honey!!!! : You know I lerve ya!

[WillyT]

185. And I lerve You Back !!!

Du is now... locked and loaded.





Seriously... we need you, and love you!



And BTW... I'm Turning 60 this year too... early November... SCORPIO !!!

[hifiguy]

161. This entire thread is making me remember why

I like DU so much. What a welcome and lighthearted breeze after a grim week here. Thanks, Taz and everybody (except for the humorless alerters).

[WillyT]

183. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

[kentauros]

340. I thank the alerters, too.

Because they're inadvertently creating even funnier sub-threads

[NaturalHigh]

368. No kidding.

This could have been a quick, simple, "Welcome Back Taz" thread, but they went and poured gasoline and tossed a match!

[11 Bravo]

173. Fuck yeah! If this place can be saved, it will be the old-timers ...

who save it. Welcome back, you've been missed!

[Le Taz Hot]

176. Thanks to everyone or the warm welcome back!

I'm going to wander around the site for awhile and see what trouble I can get myself into.

BBL

[villager]

177. A fellow "Old One, from the Before Times"

Welcome back!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

178. Bitches??!!?! Who are you calling ...

... never mind; there is a word that's worse. I cannot tell you what it is, nor express it in a clever poem, anagram, homophone, or even alliteration.

But be warned!



And welcome back, from wherever your odyssey took you.

I might be gone for a few days. See you next arrrrghhhh, no, no, no, Bad Bozo!

[bvar22]

310. Does it rhyme with "bunt" ,

...because I gotta tell you, that word is probably the 2nd most used word in Australia,
and nobody get their panties in a twist.
I believe it is used frequently in Great Britain too.

If you don't believe me, watch an HBO Special by the Australian Comic, Jim Jefferies.
http://jimjefferies.ning.com/

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

328. I'm wise to that trick, bvar22

You're trying to get me to utter the word.

But, now I'm curious: What's the FIRST most used word in Australia? Lemme guess: "beer"? (That's a word often spoken by a Kiwi friend, and yes, I've heard that Australia and New Zealand are not actually the same place)

[NuttyFluffers]

359. good try, but the answer we're looking for is "coquette"

the first three letters 'other' it from 'enlightened' conversation, naturally.

[LittleBlue]

181. Welcome back, Taz!

[immoderate]

184. Hello.

--imm

[BeanMusical]

188. Hi!

[hrmjustin]

191. Welcome back!

[MrMickeysMom]

193. Wah-Ever!

[SalviaBlue]

198. Welcome back!

[Jesus Malverde]

203. Back with a bang!

[byronius]

205. Your icon is so different from the former. It changes your whole personality.

[Le Taz Hot]

210. Um,

er, huh?

No, darlin', I've always been an opinionated loud-mouthed broad. That will never ever change. And the icon goes back as soon as Senator Sanders is elected president.

[denbot]

206. Hey, welcome back!

Cheers

[GoneOffShore]

212. You were on my ignore list. Why were you on my ignore list?

I took you off my ignore list when I decided that ignore was stupid.

Along with Trash thread and hide group (well except for hiding that group that must not be named - kind of like talking about Voldemort - damn, I just said Voldemort).

And now you're posting awesome stuff.

[Liberal_in_LA]

213. we don't need another Hillary hater

But welcome back.

[scarletwoman]

215. Foolish woman, thinking you could leave! Welcome back!!!!

You are NEEDED here!

[Le Taz Hot]

216. Scahlet!!!!

I keep meaning to ask you why you have a nekkid picture of me as your icon. Good to see you and it's good to be "home." Already been labeled a "Hillary hater." I'm so proud! <sniff>

[scarletwoman]

218. "Hillary hater" - yeah I saw that. :D

See all the fun you've been missing?

As for my icon, I'm sorry but that's a picture of me! Twins separated at birth? Stay tuned...

[Sheldon Cooper]

217. Still taking the census?

How's that going?

[petronius]

223. Very glad to see you back!

[bunnies]

227. *kisses* #feelthebern!!!

[olddots]

228. I thought you said Butch .

[olddots]

229. I'm alerting on myself

to save the whiners the trouble .

[akbacchus_BC]

231. Who you are calling bitches?

That is not a nice statement!

[Le Taz Hot]

232. Only the cool people

so there's no need for you to worry.

[akbacchus_BC]

233. Oh ok, I was not too sure if you were being facetious!

Am good, thanks for clarifying

[Le Taz Hot]

234. Whoooosh!!!!!!

[akbacchus_BC]

236. It's late here and I was confused!

I guess the irony of your post missed me, sorry!

Let me join other DUers to see you are back.

Have a wonderful weekend

[sadoldgirl]

237. While I don't know you, I agree to

the welcome back.
I have two bitches, who are brighter and more
compassionate than many of the human female
species. Well, they are quite often even more
reasonable than I am.
I detest people who pretend that they are "hurt"
by this comparison, because don't seem to appreciate
the value and love of a good bitch.

At any rate, Welcome again, but I have to say as
many before me: Watch for the word controllers as
well as all their supporters. That so called freedom
of expression has become very limited.

Mind you, I try to catch more flies with honey
myself, but love others to do it their own way.

[romanic]

242. New so not familiar with you

or vice-versa, but anyone that re-introduces themselves with guns (or in this case, bitches) blazing is someone I'd want to be on a board with. Welcome back. *waves*

[steve2470]

248. Welcome back! nt

[corkhead]

252. ALERTING!!!

you called us bitches!

Go Bernie BTW!

[Autumn]

253. Welcome back

now this is how you make an entrance

In case you want to join us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1280

[marym625]

257. Welcome back!

I hate to tell you, but I don't think skinner needs xanax. He obviously has a sense of humor. Just look at his post yesterday.

The more Bernie supporters, the better!

[Le Taz Hot]

261. Yeah,

Kos too. Funny thing is, most of the posters over at DK are also for Bernie -- much like here. You think that means anything?

[marym625]

264. It means liberal, Democrats, progressives,

Want someone we can trust to do the right thing. Someone that isn't a shill for third way. Someone that walks the walk. Someone that doesn't need 2 years to figure out what is right. Someone that doesn't have to back track on equal rights or war mongering

That's what I think it means!

Doing the Bernie bounce!

[raouldukelives]

259. "Welcome back, to that same old place that you laughed about."

[merrily]

266. Hi. You might be interested in this. It was a revelation to me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6592890

[MelissaB]

292. Jeebus! Look at those numbers.

Amazing.

[merrily]

346. I hope you voted.

[MelissaB]

360. Yes, I did!

[L0oniX]

294. ...rekicking that.

[merrily]

345. I checked some profiles of those who voted for Hillary whose names were unfamiliar.

Interestng.

[SoapBox]

297. Wow! I never saw that!

[merrily]

344. I hope you voted.

[cui bono]

315. Yeah, but...

that was before we found out Bernie's policy was only for white males and that his supporters are all meanies!

[merrily]

362. Or, before we saw how many low down Big Lies some DUers would tell about Bernie.

http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6747819

The OP of that thread is very good, btw.

Better than my OP for this thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12809672

[Enthusiast]

267. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[d_legendary1]

268. I don't know you man!!!

But I like your style! REC and kick for using language that offends the thin skinned curmudgeons that can't take a joke or don't understand it (or both).

[jtuck004]

277. "man". < heh. n/t

[roguevalley]

278. YAY! Another fellow traveler. ;D

[stonecutter357]

281. labels are for RWNJ's

Are you a rwnj?

[shanti]

286. Good to see you back, Taz!

You've been missed!

[samsingh]

291. welcome back

[SoapBox]

296. "I'm goin' with the devil I know as opposed to the devil I don't."

Almost wet my pants!

[jaysunb]

323. Incorrigible as always !!

Welcome home.

[irisblue]

342. welcome home

this is going to be amazing

[rhett o rick]

352. Fearing giving you even a bigger head, this is one of the most refreshing threads I've seen

in a long time. I can see why the conservatives want to shut it down.

[NuttyFluffers]

353. i heart you. :)

some hearts are made of glass, others of rubber, and some of asbestos. we could use a joyful conflagration or two around here.

don't mind me if i casually light up, then. carry on!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

376. Welcome back, ...Hotter... Oh, that was bad!