Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

sketchy

(458 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:48 AM Jun 2015

How trustworthy are electronic voting systems in the US? Beth Carlson, PhD, Kansas mathematician

Last edited Sun Jun 21, 2015, 06:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Beth Clarkson is a Kansas mathematician suing Kansas Sec. of State Kris Kobach for paper tapes from electronic voting machines. She found statistical anomalies in voting patterns in the last Kansas general election results.

Link:
http://bethclarkson.com/?page_id=46&paged=2

Quote:

I’ve recently written an article for the Royal Statistical Society on the trustworthiness of US voting systems. Here is an excerpt:

My statistical analysis shows patterns indicative of vote manipulation in machines. The manipulation is relatively small, compared with the inherent variability of election results, but it is consistent. These results form a pattern that goes across the nation and back a number of election cycles. I’ve downloaded data and verified the results from several states for myself. Furthermore, the manipulation is not limited to a single powerful operator. My assessment is that the data reveals multiple (at least two) agents working independently to successfully alter voting results.

You’ll find the article in its entirety, here:
http://www.statslife.org.uk/significance/politics/2288-how-trustworthy-are-electronic-voting-systems-in-the-us


Today she posted this on her blog:
"I’ve gotten a number of inquiries regarding my lawsuit, what was up or if anything was happening. I went to the courthouse today to check. Kobach’s office has yet to file a response. So, currently, nothing happening.

I’m working on not taking it as a personal rejection."



25 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How trustworthy are electronic voting systems in the US? Beth Carlson, PhD, Kansas mathematician (Original Post) sketchy Jun 2015 OP
They are not trustworthy. deathrind Jun 2015 #1
+1000 valerief Jun 2015 #2
They are currently working on modifying another plane for the good professor. -none Jun 2015 #3
She's a she btw. nt Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #8
Yes, Michael Connell sketchy Jun 2015 #5
Yep. That was Rove's buddy. kairos12 Jun 2015 #11
There are no "friends" hifiguy Jun 2015 #24
Funny (not haha) isn't it? lark Jun 2015 #14
Several years ago, then SOS of Ohio Jennifer Brunner was quoted in the Dispatch as saying..... peace13 Jun 2015 #4
Gov. McAuliffe proposed $28m to replace the paperless ones here in Va. underpants Jun 2015 #6
It's left to alternative media outlets to publicize this sketchy Jun 2015 #7
One interesting finding--she believes there is also a Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #9
That is very interesting sketchy Jun 2015 #10
They tend to blame that on busloads of immigrants IDemo Jun 2015 #17
HAH! good one nt Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #18
There was definately Voter Suppression in the Arkansas Democratic Primary, bvar22 Jun 2015 #20
I believe this will spark a massive rebellion... KansDem Jun 2015 #12
bookmarked daleanime Jun 2015 #13
So this is what our US "democracy" has come to? 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #15
I think if there is absolute proof that elections were stolen edhopper Jun 2015 #16
^ Wilms Jun 2015 #19
The fact that Democratic leadership isn't making a huge public deal about this is very telling. Scuba Jun 2015 #21
And where are the investigative reporters when you need them? sketchy Jun 2015 #23
Science? Pshaw. hifiguy Jun 2015 #22
kick n/t sketchy Jun 2015 #25

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
1. They are not trustworthy.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jun 2015

the HBO show a couple years ago showed clearly how easy it is to hack them. If only that guy had had a chance to testify before his plane crashed...

-none

(1,884 posts)
3. They are currently working on modifying another plane for the good professor.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:06 AM
Jun 2015

For some reason they will want him to fly from Wichita to Topeka.

sketchy

(458 posts)
5. Yes, Michael Connell
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jun 2015

Link to article about this:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/22/republican_it_specialist_dies_in_plane

Quote:
"A top Republican internet strategist who was set to testify in a case alleging election tampering in 2004 in Ohio has died in a plane crash. Michael Connell was the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove and created websites for the Bush and McCain electoral campaigns. Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count in Ohio and his access to Karl Rove’s email files and how they went missing."

lark

(23,156 posts)
14. Funny (not haha) isn't it?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jun 2015

Everytime anyone gets close to the real truth about a Repug, especially if it's a Bush involved, the person dies. I would be very careful if I was her.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
4. Several years ago, then SOS of Ohio Jennifer Brunner was quoted in the Dispatch as saying.....
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:06 AM
Jun 2015

...our electronic voting machines were easily hackable. Unfortunately she left that office two years later, mid term, to run for another public office. She lost that bid before ever correcting the problem with the machines! I called her office shortly after the article ran and volunteered as a poll worker to help in any way possible. I called back about every two months and finally one of her aides told me that things just really move slowly in government! I was so disgusted. I always vote on paper and have resigned from any election poll work. What is the point!

underpants

(182,883 posts)
6. Gov. McAuliffe proposed $28m to replace the paperless ones here in Va.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jun 2015

Not sure what happen to that proposal.

I tried to vote in the Republican primaries on Tuesday but my precinct, which usually has touch screen voting, only had paper ballots that went into a scanner. They did allow for write-ins (Josh Duggar and Dennis Hastert) so I cast a blank ballot.

sketchy

(458 posts)
7. It's left to alternative media outlets to publicize this
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jun 2015

It's about who holds governmental power, and if they really actually won their elected offices.

Attention must be paid -- somehow.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
9. One interesting finding--she believes there is also a
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jun 2015
blue shift in some locations, meaning someone is hacking to increase the Democratic vote.

Maybe that's what it will take to get the RepubliCons interested in this problem.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
17. They tend to blame that on busloads of immigrants
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jun 2015

who are brought over the border under an invisibility cloak to cast votes for Democrats.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
20. There was definately Voter Suppression in the Arkansas Democratic Primary,
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:34 PM
Jun 2015

.....favoring Blanche Lincoln.
Bill Halter's strongest district had 42 polling stations reduced to two on the day of the runoff.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
12. I believe this will spark a massive rebellion...
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jun 2015

For decades we've seen crap-ass policies enacted that favor the corporations and plutocrats. We've had election after election and the same doofuses are elected time and time again, and the crap-ass policies continue.

Many of us suspect election malfeasance, but to date it hasn't been proven. Still, the attack on the middle class, the working class, the poor, the aged--on education, health care, unions, the environment--on women, minorities, immigrants continue.

If Wikileaks, Anonymous, or any hactivist should release documentation proving election theft, then all Hell will break loose.

And it won't be pretty.

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
16. I think if there is absolute proof that elections were stolen
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 01:43 PM
Jun 2015

nothing will happen. there will be noises from Washington and anemic legislation will pass that will do little and not address the problem or problems like anti-voter laws.
Too many sheep here that don't want to think America is not the beacon of freedom.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
21. The fact that Democratic leadership isn't making a huge public deal about this is very telling.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jun 2015

sketchy

(458 posts)
23. And where are the investigative reporters when you need them?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jun 2015

Kris Kobach hasn't responded to her lawsuit yet, and he knows America won't hear about that on the news.

Kudos to the few newspaper reporters who have covered this story.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. Science? Pshaw.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jun 2015

No repuke believes in science. They put their trust in the Kochtopus, jebus and Diebold.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How trustworthy are elect...