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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:56 PM Jun 2015

Arizona pastor prays for God to rip out Caitlyn Jenner’s heart: ‘I hate him with a perfect hatred’

An Arizona pastor said he prayed for God to rip out the heart of Caitlyn Jenner and cast her soul into the fiery depths of Hell.

Pastor Steven Anderson, who predicted an “AIDS-free Christmas” if all LGBT people were put to death, explained to his congregation at Faithful Word Baptist Church that it was not wrong to pray for the deaths of your enemies – like he had done for President Barack Obama.

Anderson preached Sunday that he had seen Jenner’s “filthy sodomite picture” everywhere after the Olympic athlete and reality TV star completed gender transition.

“I’d never even heard of him until this week,” Anderson said. “Bruce Jenner has basically mutilated his body, apparently, and he’s being praised by our president. Our President Obama is praising him, or praising her – we don’t even know what it is. I think that (Obama) used the female pronoun about somebody named Bruce.”

He said the president was “praising the wicked,” and he said “this trans freak” was being “crammed down the throat” of “literally hundreds of millions of people.”

“This person is just the evangelist of sodomy and filth to the world, and people are like, ‘Oh, we need to pray for him so that he finds Jesus,’” Anderson said. “I’m going to pray that he dies and goes to Hell.”


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/arizona-pastor-prays-for-god-to-rip-out-caitlyn-jenners-heart-i-hate-him-with-a-perfect-hatred/





Dear lord, this guy needs a mental health exam before he kills someone.
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Arizona pastor prays for God to rip out Caitlyn Jenner’s heart: ‘I hate him with a perfect hatred’ (Original Post) davidn3600 Jun 2015 OP
Yeah he does but it won't happen because god Warpy Jun 2015 #1
Exactly. enlightenment Jun 2015 #14
Do the "REAL Christians" walk out of the church when pastors spew this hate? davidn3600 Jun 2015 #17
They shout "amen" because the preacher is validating their own hate. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #28
We often find other churches, too. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #29
Did someone say Pabst Blue Ribbon? FrodosPet Jun 2015 #34
Well, enlightenment Jun 2015 #46
A thinly veiled call for someone to do it, for their god..sick. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #2
You are right, if something happens to Republican Caitlyn, then this guy needs to be randys1 Jun 2015 #5
Like Pamela Geller was questioned after the shooting in Garland? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #30
The word you're looking for is fatwa. SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #69
He and TENS OF MILLIONS who are EXACTLY like him HATE Gay people and dont you EVER randys1 Jun 2015 #3
Never was a fan of that saying MFrohike Jun 2015 #39
Hey, Steve! Get yourself a hobby! KansDem Jun 2015 #4
I'm sure this asshole belongs to the same political party as Caitlyn. nt valerief Jun 2015 #6
I'm not a scholar of theology by any means, but I don't remember The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #7
Jesus condemned an entire town because they (more or less)... Archae Jun 2015 #48
He had a thing against fig trees... LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #78
A padded cell and a straitjacket are missing their owner. DinahMoeHum Jun 2015 #8
WHWJRO JHB Jun 2015 #9
Hmm... Rex Jun 2015 #10
Goebbels, I think, looks like he smells a fart MFrohike Jun 2015 #40
Ha! He does look like he just smelled a rank fart! Rex Jun 2015 #45
Possibly so. A relevant and true funny story... whatthehey Jun 2015 #60
More apt... Archae Jun 2015 #49
who are the bishops?/religious next to them? irisblue Jun 2015 #74
It was Bormann this time! MFrohike Jun 2015 #86
Mathew 7: 21 - 23 Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #11
"They will know we are Christians xfundy Jun 2015 #12
I suspect this malignant half-wit is so deep in the closet that he's finding Christmas presents... AzDar Jun 2015 #13
This guy desperately needs to wander in front of a stray bullet. hifiguy Jun 2015 #15
How Christian of him... backscatter712 Jun 2015 #16
Is it just me, or does this preacher set off anyone else's gaydar? backscatter712 Jun 2015 #18
Steven Anderson's audition for the pulpit at Westboro Baptist Church? gratuitous Jun 2015 #19
My odds: 5:1 against him getting busted for hiring a female prostitute, 2:1 for a male. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2015 #42
He is not a Christian Egnever Jun 2015 #20
Unfortunately, the Christian religion isn't choosy about its membership... backscatter712 Jun 2015 #23
Yep, they throw out the most despicable remarks/positions, but throw in god a few times, RKP5637 Jun 2015 #54
Sure he is, just like members of the Taliban are Muslim. ohnoyoudidnt Jun 2015 #31
Utter bigoted bullshit whatthehey Jun 2015 #62
+1 cleanhippie Jun 2015 #65
Oh, he is most certainly a Christian. cleanhippie Jun 2015 #64
I wonder...if one day he should find himself in the presence of Christ Sheepshank Jun 2015 #21
Oh for a well placed lightning bolt . . . Vinca Jun 2015 #22
See my post below - I found the next best thing... n/t backscatter712 Jun 2015 #32
Now that was a thing of beauty. What a total anal orifice. Vinca Jun 2015 #50
He's already killed himself madokie Jun 2015 #24
His church is listed as a hate group on SPLC Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #25
damn he almost looks like Jeremy Scahill in that frozen youtube image in the OP! nt m-lekktor Jun 2015 #26
Care for some schadenfreude? backscatter712 Jun 2015 #27
Fucking moron Tree-Hugger Jun 2015 #43
“crammed down the throat”? KamaAina Jun 2015 #33
Freud would have a field day with this guy. Initech Jun 2015 #35
Hmmm, ja, I think he has quite the case of penis envy! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2015 #36
Use of the phrase "rammed down our throats" gives that away! Initech Jun 2015 #37
Yep, Jesus is well known for encouraging his followers to hate. Coventina Jun 2015 #38
Not a Christian. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #41
Thank you for saying that. I wish more people of faith would call out people like this for what they RKP5637 Jun 2015 #55
This guy Tree-Hugger Jun 2015 #44
Well gosh, Rev. aren't YOU an extra-special, extra-loving Christian! hatrack Jun 2015 #47
Another pastor with a perverted interpretation of Christianity. City Lights Jun 2015 #51
Perverted interpretation? cleanhippie Jun 2015 #66
People like this idiot give religion/Xianity a bad name. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #52
Far too often religion provides a venue for demented individuals to speak to a brain dead flock. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2015 #53
I'm sure Jesus would be very proud of this fine man of God. nruthie Jun 2015 #56
How dare that man call himself a Christian! Sanity Claws Jun 2015 #57
Says you. cleanhippie Jun 2015 #67
Says Matthew 22:36-40 Sanity Claws Jun 2015 #68
All of it. cleanhippie Jun 2015 #70
That's your opinion Sanity Claws Jun 2015 #77
Except for the fact that it doesn't count if *this* is the Jesus you serve: dawg Jun 2015 #71
Again, says you. cleanhippie Jun 2015 #72
Yeah ... dawg Jun 2015 #73
My comments hit a bit too close to home fo ya? cleanhippie Jun 2015 #81
No, it's not that. dawg Jun 2015 #82
Funny, that. cleanhippie Jun 2015 #84
Is there a release date set for Pastor Anderson's gay sex tape? n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #58
Gosh, isn't he just a ray of sunshine? LibertyLover Jun 2015 #59
Sounds like someone has some self-loathing issues..... n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #61
Who's persecuting who? B Calm Jun 2015 #63
He wants "God" to do it 'cause he's too chicken shit. Nice arm gesture. Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #75
What is it always with conservatives and "ramming something down their throat"? DetlefK Jun 2015 #76
My Gaydar is going CRAZY!!!!!!! Politicalboi Jun 2015 #79
i want to karate- kick this stupid fucker right in the face TimeToEvolve Jun 2015 #80
This person is very sick damnedifIknow Jun 2015 #83
ugly Liberal_in_LA Jun 2015 #85
He can't possibly be affiliated with a denomination TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #87

Warpy

(111,342 posts)
1. Yeah he does but it won't happen because god
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jun 2015

I just wish his suckers would catch a clue that this guy is a charismatic psychopath and run like hell, but they won't because god.

Making outrageous threats like this should get people a visit from the cops, at the very least, but it won't because god.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
14. Exactly.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

And then when one of these sickos does do something, people shake their heads and say, "they aren't REAL Christians".

Probably not - but shouldn't somebody call them out for their falsehood BEFORE they hurt someone or encourage a sheep to do it for them?

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. Do the "REAL Christians" walk out of the church when pastors spew this hate?
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jun 2015

No. Of course not. They shout "Amen!"

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
28. They shout "amen" because the preacher is validating their own hate.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jun 2015

That is why they do not leave that church. But like the Westboro Baptist Church, most of these churches have very small congregations. People who hate others seem to generally seek out fellow haters to associate with.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. We often find other churches, too.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jun 2015

We often find other churches, too... churches that stay out of the news as they're not well, very newsworthy (unless left-over meatloaves and pabst beers during the softball games in the evening become newsorthy).

But... no true Scotsman or something or other.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
46. Well,
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jun 2015

I wasn't going to go there, for the sake of not starting a battle (but did consider putting the trademark symbol after "real" . . . if you get my drift).

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. You are right, if something happens to Republican Caitlyn, then this guy needs to be
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jun 2015

questioned.

When I see these people they remind me of how very angry I am at Caitlyn for being a republican

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. He and TENS OF MILLIONS who are EXACTLY like him HATE Gay people and dont you EVER
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jun 2015

believe this crap about loving the sinner and hating the sin.

Of course not a sin, no such thing, and if there was, still not one.

But your mainstream teaparty xtian HATES Gay folk, this guy is just willing to say it out loud for some reason

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
39. Never was a fan of that saying
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jun 2015

It's a veil for hate. Maybe, maybe, it makes sense when dealing with actual evil, but it's idiotic when applied to LGBT. It's just fundamentally irrational to claim that a naturally occurring part of life is somehow evil. It boggles the mind to hear someone claim God is good, God made us all, and God says it's wrong to be gay. Logically, you can't have all three. I know logic plays no role in it, but I'm fundamentally hopeful that people will at least try to think through their prejudices and overcome them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,856 posts)
7. I'm not a scholar of theology by any means, but I don't remember
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jun 2015

having read that Jesus ever prayed for anyone to die and go to hell. I do recall that he warned that might happen to those who failed to help the poor and the sick and the helpless, though - but did not mention "sodomites." Maybe this guy needs to go back and have another good look at his New Testament, especially Matthew 25.

...Although I suspect he's worked himself up into a frenzied froth of "righteous" hate that nothing but a whopping dose of thorazine could affect.

Archae

(46,347 posts)
48. Jesus condemned an entire town because they (more or less)...
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:04 AM
Jun 2015

Told him and his disciples to take a hike.

Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen 19:24). Matthew 10:14-15

JHB

(37,162 posts)
9. WHWJRO
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jun 2015

Whose heart would Jeses rip out?

Funny how the zealot funny wants God to act like Hollywood-Kali. I thought they considered that the Devil. So God should act like the Devil? Q.E.D.?

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
40. Goebbels, I think, looks like he smells a fart
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe Himmler, behind him, let one go and is trying to play it off. That would explain why he's looking the wrong way.









Don't mind me, I like mocking Nazis.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Ha! He does look like he just smelled a rank fart!
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jun 2015

Me too...the worst are Illinois Nazis! I hate em!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
60. Possibly so. A relevant and true funny story...
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jun 2015

Hitler was indeed troubled by chronic excessive flatulence. His doctor, a quack named Theodore Morrell, prescribed a number of weird foods including lots of beans and strained human faeces.

You have to wonder if the doctor had some Jewish ancestry, or he just had a killer sense of humor.

I'm not making this up.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/oct/20/hitlers-hidden-drug-habit-downton-abbey-tv-review

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
86. It was Bormann this time!
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:48 PM
Jun 2015

The cardinal next to him is gagging and the one on the left is about to pass out!

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
13. I suspect this malignant half-wit is so deep in the closet that he's finding Christmas presents...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:13 PM
Jun 2015

Total fucking lunatic...

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. This guy desperately needs to wander in front of a stray bullet.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

Lots of ammo flying around in AZ, it shouldn't be too hard.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
16. How Christian of him...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jun 2015

Jesus loves you, but if He sees teh gay, he's going to throw you into his fiery torture dungeon after you die. Out of love, of course.

Makes sense to me!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Steven Anderson's audition for the pulpit at Westboro Baptist Church?
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

So, what's the over/under on Steven being arrested for solicitation of a prostitute?

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
20. He is not a Christian
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

Anyone who preaches hate is not a Christian no matter what they label themselves.

Judge not lest you be judged.

It is preachers like this that drove me away from religion.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
23. Unfortunately, the Christian religion isn't choosy about its membership...
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jun 2015

...nor is it choosy about who gets leadership positions.

Any asshole can call himself a Christian. And the extra-special assholes sometimes get to be preachers.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
54. Yep, they throw out the most despicable remarks/positions, but throw in god a few times,
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:53 AM
Jun 2015

jesus a few times, a few amends and it's OK, and they love the hatred, well, since it came from god. What a bunch of weird sickos.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
31. Sure he is, just like members of the Taliban are Muslim.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jun 2015

There are different types of Christians and Muslims.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
62. Utter bigoted bullshit
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:29 AM
Jun 2015

If no-one who is Christian can hate than all people who hate are not Christians, which is a vicious insult to the rest of us, and proven false by the preponderance of Christians in jail, the driving force of Christianity behind homophobia, misogyny and racism in the US, the theocratic aims of the hateful Republican party, and the non-stop preaching of hate from pulpits across the world and especially here.

Christianity is in its basic sense nothing more than a belief in the salvific divinity of Christ. All doctrinal and political differences are merely subsets. Christian is not a synonym for nice person, and anyone who suggests thatit is is a bigoted asshole who wants to portray non-Christians as by defintion vile people.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
65. +1
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jun 2015
Christian is not a synonym for nice person, and anyone who suggests thatit is is a bigoted asshole who wants to portray non-Christians as by defintion vile people.



Bingo!

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
64. Oh, he is most certainly a Christian.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jun 2015

I understand that he is the kind that you don't agree with or like, but he IS a Christian.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
21. I wonder...if one day he should find himself in the presence of Christ
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:35 PM
Jun 2015

would he ever spew so much hatred and vengeance?

I doubt it. If there were a real Christ, he wouldn't be saying such things.

This guy likley doesn't even beleive in Christ, he's without any religious fibre. He's probably fighting his inner atheism. Without any marketable job skills, he's in it for the money.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. He's already killed himself
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jun 2015

maybe not in the physical sense but surely in the spiritual sense.
fuck him and people like him!

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
27. Care for some schadenfreude?
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jun 2015

Watch this... Yes, it's the same hateful turd as in the OP. Skip to about 3:30 in this video...

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
38. Yep, Jesus is well known for encouraging his followers to hate.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jun 2015

Has this guy even READ the accounts of Jesus in his Bible?

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
41. Not a Christian.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:57 PM
Jun 2015

and I will speak out against it. I'm an episcopal and we welcome everyone, Caitlyn Jenner with open arms.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
55. Thank you for saying that. I wish more people of faith would call out people like this for what they
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:54 AM
Jun 2015

are. It just seems they get a free pass.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
44. This guy
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:46 PM
Jun 2015

...is full of self-loathing. God bless him. He is already in hell.

Also, he can go fuck himself.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
66. Perverted interpretation?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jun 2015

And just who made you the decider of what is and what is not an approved interpretation?



Sadly, ALL interpretations are equally valid (or invalid, if you like).

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
57. How dare that man call himself a Christian!
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:01 AM
Jun 2015

Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love thy neighbor. This pastor has totally missed the boat when it comes to the basic precepts of Christianity.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
67. Says you.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 10:49 AM
Jun 2015

The only requirement to be a christian is to believe in Jesus as your personal savior.

Period.

He IS a Christian. And that's the point.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
68. Says Matthew 22:36-40
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jun 2015

I had to look up the verse again and see it is different from my recollection but it is still based on love.

Is there any scripture on which these "Christians" that hate rely on?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
70. All of it.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jun 2015

You see what you want to see, they see what they want to see.

Your claim to "truth" is no more valid than theirs.


It's sad that you are unable to see that.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
77. That's your opinion
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jun 2015

It's so sad that you can't see that's only your opinion, when you say it is only my opinion. LOL.

(I feel like I'm in a Hall of Mirrors and see reflections upon reflections upon reflections.)

dawg

(10,624 posts)
71. Except for the fact that it doesn't count if *this* is the Jesus you serve:
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jun 2015


That idiot pastor may not actually serve my favorite pedophile Lebowski character, but the Jesus he claims to serve bears a stronger resemblance to that guy than he does to the Jesus I believe in.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
72. Again, says you.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jun 2015

Considering that the Jesus you believe in (you know, the guy with supernatural powers and all) makes your argument difficult to take seriously.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
81. My comments hit a bit too close to home fo ya?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jun 2015

Because if that's all you have to respond with... game, set, match.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
82. No, it's not that.
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015

It's just that, as I have gotten older, I have learned to recognize when someone has no intention of really listening to anything I might say.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
59. Gosh, isn't he just a ray of sunshine?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

Actually, given that Pastor Anderson hates the gay so much I wonder why he only uses the 1611 version of the King James Bible, since James was a practicing homosexual. Care to explain Pastor?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
76. What is it always with conservatives and "ramming something down their throat"?
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jun 2015

Are they subconsiously thinking about having something rammed down their throats?

Yeah, Obama ramming his big, black Obamacare into their throats (by sneaking it through Congress without proper debate) in the middle of the night. So horrible. They can't stop fantasizing about it.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
87. He can't possibly be affiliated with a denomination
Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:51 PM
Jun 2015

Even the southern Baptists would draw the line at this.

Me? I'm waiting for his fall from grace. It's coming. Watch for it.

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