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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:57 AM Jun 2015

The Rude Pundit - David Brooks and the Myth of the Unreasonable Democrat (Updated)

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In today's New York Times (motto: "Our anti-Clinton boner is just getting hard&quot , David Brooks has a piece where he describes the problem with the campaign strategy of Hillary Clinton, which comes down to "She ain't sucking the dicks of the yahoos." In his column (if by "column," you mean, "a consistent stream of illogical and ahistorical thought worded in a way to hide a vast, dark emptiness of the soul&quot , Brooks fears that Clinton is making a mistake by "adopt[ing] left-leaning policy positions carefully designed to energize the Obama coalition."

See, Clinton shouldn't veer left-er, Brooks says, because that'll make the mythical independents run away. And "If Clinton comes across as a stereotypical big-spending, big-government Democrat, she will pay a huge cost in the Upper Midwest and the Sun Belt," because, obviously, a whole lot of people in Alabama are just chomping at the bit to vote for Clinton, if only she keeps her liberal thoughts to herself.

It's just a disaster waiting to happen, and Brooks flops on his fainting couch about what might happen if Clinton goes ahead with this strategy to appeal to voters who vote for her. It polarizes the country, which is just too darn polarized already: "Politics is broken today because those sorts of leaders have been replaced by highly polarizing, base-mobilizing politicians who hew to party orthodoxy." Polarized, damnit.

Of course, it's all about getting shit done, and no-way, no-how would Clinton be able to. She'll miss out on a possible Shangri-La of legislative success: "If the next president hopes to pass any actual laws, he or she will have to create a bipartisan governing majority. That means building a center-out coalition, winning 60 reliable supporters in the Senate and some sort of majority in the House." Just look at all the leaders who succeeded recently. They all said they'd lead from the middle: "In 1992, Bill Clinton firmly grabbed the center. In 2000, George Bush ran as a uniter, not a divider. In 2008, Barack Obama ran as a One Nation candidate who vowed to transcend partisan divides."

Now you, being a semi-rational person, actually understands what happened in the United States in the last, oh, hell, let's say decade and a half. You know that George W. Bush's "uniter" line was complete bullshit, that, after bumblefucking around for a few months, he got 9/11ed into a position where he could just do whatever the fuck he wanted, center or left be damned, using fear and lies and intimidation to ass-fuck the nation. But at least Democrats tried to work with him.

To pretend in any way that Obama is responsible for the polarization of politics in his time in office is to deliberately obfuscate recent history because right-wing idiots will believe anything a conservative jacks off into their brains. Obama tried, desperately, to work with Republicans, who told him to shove it up his black ass. One of the main stories of the Obama administration is the concerted effort of the Republican party to break Americans apart, to shove them back to partisan divides, to wreck any chance at even a compromised unity. You want to praise Obama for trying to reach out? Then you have to put in how it demoralized his coalition of voters, leading to the 2010 and 2014 midterms debacle. If Obama had "pandered" to the base, he might still have had a chance to do more than a piecemeal version of his agenda. The fact of the matter is that Obama was the reasonable Democrat, and his opposition couldn't have given less of a shit.

Back in 2011, Brooks was also warning Democrats not to play to the base, intimating that Obama might not win reelection if he did. Besides, that game is only for Republicans because only 15% of people at the time said they trusted the government: "If Obama were a Republican, he could win with this sort of strategy: Repeat your party’s most orthodox positions and then rip your opponent to shreds. Republicans can win a contest between an orthodox Republican and an orthodox Democrat because they have the trust in government issue on their side." Like now, this was nonsense because the actual Gallup poll said that 15% have a "Great Deal" of trust. Another 42% had a "Fair Amount" of trust. By the magic of the Rude Pundit's amazing adding abilities, that's 57% who have a good bit of trust in the government, a number that's stayed pretty fuckin' steady.

In other words, David Brooks's assumptions were based on selectively picking numbers. Fuck that. Fuck the center. The center is a lie, filled with people who are pussies about saying what they really are - they're fucknuts who want to act like they are so independent when all they're really doing is licking the asses of rich Republicans or they're people who want to call themselves Democrat but were raised Republican and don't know what to do.

So the Rude Pundit offers the opposite advice to Clinton: Fuck being reasonable. Look where that got you in 2008. Punch the yahoos in the balls and preach to the converted, who want to feel good about going to church.

Update: Let's be honest here, too. Bernie Sanders is the real liberal in the race, whatever you think his chances are. Hillary Clinton has taken some positions on issues that are to the left of Republicans, which, of course, puts conservatives into a froth, even if her ideas are not particularly radical. Most of the things Clinton says (or that Sanders says, for that matter) are very popular positions among, you know, the majority of voters.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2015/06/david-brooks-and-myth-of-unreasonable.html

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The Rude Pundit - David Brooks and the Myth of the Unreasonable Democrat (Updated) (Original Post) meegbear Jun 2015 OP
"right-wing idiots will believe anything a conservative jacks off into their brains" Martin Eden Jun 2015 #1
"In today's New York Times (motto: "Our anti-Clinton boner is just getting hard")," Not just the Cha Jun 2015 #2
"The center is a lie" Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #3
Exactly. I don't want HRC to 'run left' -- I want her to GOVERN LEFT, should she be elected. Myrina Jun 2015 #10
The standard lie DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #4
A constructive suggestion Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #6
Good read - just one tiny complaint Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #5
So this is your first time reading the Rude Pundit? hueymahl Jun 2015 #12
I agree angrychair Jun 2015 #13
One aims to provide constructive criticism. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #17
David Brooks is not really credible on this issue Gothmog Jun 2015 #7
David Brooks is not really credible on ANY issue. Fuddnik Jun 2015 #8
+1 mountain grammy Jun 2015 #9
Plus 2. maddiemom Jun 2015 #15
What do you mean, he just wrote a book on character! Johonny Jun 2015 #16
Rude and awesome as usual underpants Jun 2015 #11
Well said. I especially appreciate the profanity. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #14

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
1. "right-wing idiots will believe anything a conservative jacks off into their brains"
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jun 2015

Rude Pundit is always a good read.

This:

To pretend in any way that Obama is responsible for the polarization of politics in his time in office is to deliberately obfuscate recent history because right-wing idiots will believe anything a conservative jacks off into their brains. Obama tried, desperately, to work with Republicans, who told him to shove it up his black ass. One of the main stories of the Obama administration is the concerted effort of the Republican party to break Americans apart, to shove them back to partisan divides, to wreck any chance at even a compromised unity. You want to praise Obama for trying to reach out? Then you have to put in how it demoralized his coalition of voters, leading to the 2010 and 2014 midterms debacle. If Obama had "pandered" to the base, he might still have had a chance to do more than a piecemeal version of his agenda. The fact of the matter is that Obama was the reasonable Democrat, and his opposition couldn't have given less of a shit.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
2. "In today's New York Times (motto: "Our anti-Clinton boner is just getting hard")," Not just the
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:35 AM
Jun 2015

NYT.. saw it today in the WaPo.

So cute the way some are getting sucked in and it's being taken as gospel, too.

Thanks meeg.. good one Rude.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. "The center is a lie"
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:36 AM
Jun 2015

All the more reason to simply go to the real lefty in the race, not the centrist who might consider 'running to the left' during a primary. There's a candidate who's already there, and doesn't have to 'run' anywhere other than for the people.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
10. Exactly. I don't want HRC to 'run left' -- I want her to GOVERN LEFT, should she be elected.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jun 2015

We know Bernie would govern left, it's who he is. He's got the track record.

HRC is 'running left' presumably because that's what her advance team is hearing that voters want. Does that mean she would govern left? Likely not, no more than Obama did once he got settled in at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
4. The standard lie
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

See, Clinton shouldn't veer left-er, Brooks says, because that'll make the mythical independents run away. And "If Clinton comes across as a stereotypical big-spending, big-government Democrat, she will pay a huge cost in the Upper Midwest and the Sun Belt," because, obviously, a whole lot of people in Alabama are just chomping at the bit to vote for Clinton, if only she keeps her liberal thoughts to herself.


Hey Hillary, do you really want to stand out from both your husband and Obama?

Reject this lie.

Yes, you have been responsible partially for it, because you let your Husband run his mouth, including the 2008 campaign which HE cost you, but you have the cred to where you can run left, thanks in no small part to Bernie. You would even win over cynics like me who really wound not care if you did it for the most cynical of reasons, we would support and cheer you anyway because someone like you veering left would snap the brains of both the Charlie Kochs and Lloyd Blankfelds.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. Good read - just one tiny complaint
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 08:37 AM
Jun 2015

what's with all the references to anal intercourse? And all of them negative, no less?

There is nothing wrong with ass-fucking, as long as both partners want it. Same with shoving things up there: if you do it responsably, it might spice up your love life.

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The whole anal reference = negative reference attitude stems from a time when anything gay was still considered pejorative. Maybe the pundit could update his insults to something equally rude but not gay-unfriendly?

"ass-raping"?
"Republicans, who told Obama they wouldn't touch him even with a stick"?

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
13. I agree
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jun 2015

"Republicans, who told Obama they wouldn't touch him even with a stick"

The last thing I would ever want to be touched with is a republican's "stick".

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. One aims to provide constructive criticism.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jun 2015

Criticism like "I guess this is your first time reading this, or you wouldn't write that" is to be depricated: it doesn't offer any counterproposals to discuss the merits of.

Johonny

(20,889 posts)
16. What do you mean, he just wrote a book on character!
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jun 2015

The fact Brook thinks he understands the concept of "character" or that Yale University allowed him to teach a class on this subject for three years makes you want to cry.

Who buys David Brooks' books and who in their right mind thinks David Brooks should teach at their school. The man is a windbag of bullshit.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Well said. I especially appreciate the profanity.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jun 2015

Fuck David Brooks, lol. [URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

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