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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:46 PM Jun 2015

Princeton professor calls for killing disabled infants under Obamacare

http://www.examiner.com/article/princeton-professor-calls-for-killing-disabled-infants-under-obamacare

Several times during the interview Singer argued the health-care system under Obamacare should openly acknowledge health-care rationing and that the country should acknowledge the necessity of "intentionally ending the lives of severely disabled infants." Singer also repeatedly referred to a disabled infant as "it" during the interview....

Singer contends that the wrongness of killing a human being is not based on the fact that the individual is alive and human. Instead, Singer argues it is "characteristics like rationality, autonomy, and self-consciousness that make a difference." When asked by Klein whether he envisions denying treatment to disabled infants to become more common in the US under the new health-care law, Singer replied: "It does happen. Not necessarily because of costs."

"If an infant is born with a massive hemorrhage in the brain that means it will be so severely disabled that if the infant lives it will never even be able to recognize its mother, it won’t be able to interact with any other human being, it will just lie there in the bed and you could feed it but that’s all that will happen, doctors will turn off the respirator that is keeping that infant alive."

"I don’t know whether they are influenced by reducing costs," Singer continued. "Probably they are just influenced by the fact that this will be a terrible burden for the parents to look after, and there will be no quality of life for the child. So we are already taking steps that quite knowingly and intentionally are ending the lives of severely disabled infants. And I think we ought to be more open in recognizing that this happens."


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Princeton professor calls for killing disabled infants under Obamacare (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2015 OP
The examiner is sure good sharp_stick Jun 2015 #1
Uh, Obamacare would actually keep that respirator going jeff47 Jun 2015 #2
since my uncle & his wife had to deal w/ a severely disabled child for 18 yrs. i think maybe it pansypoo53219 Jun 2015 #3
People with disabilities face that attitude all the time KamaAina Jun 2015 #5
"According to an article published Sunday by World Net Daily..." jberryhill Jun 2015 #4
I left that part out on purpose KamaAina Jun 2015 #6
Obviously.... jberryhill Jun 2015 #8
To avoid a WND-related flamefest KamaAina Jun 2015 #9
"the actual point being made" jberryhill Jun 2015 #11
Peter Singer is well known. Igel Jun 2015 #7
Dr Mengele I presume? lpbk2713 Jun 2015 #10

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. The examiner is sure good
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jun 2015

at finding nutcases to advance an idiotic agenda.

This particular wackjob doesn't make Princeton look too good.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
2. Uh, Obamacare would actually keep that respirator going
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:52 PM
Jun 2015

instead of the insurance company dropping the baby's coverage and the hospital turning it off because they aren't getting paid.

So why is this about Obamacare other than to stoke "Death Panel" bullshit?

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
3. since my uncle & his wife had to deal w/ a severely disabled child for 18 yrs. i think maybe it
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

would be a blessing to not extend life for some.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. People with disabilities face that attitude all the time
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

I know several wheelchair users who have been told, to their faces, "I'd rather be dead than be like you."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. "According to an article published Sunday by World Net Daily..."
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

Why, why, why, why must we wade through the fever swamps every day?
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. I left that part out on purpose
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:06 PM
Jun 2015


but this doesn't look like one of World Nut Daily's usual fabrications.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. Obviously....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jun 2015

Whatever kernel of fact may underlie this second-hand account of a WND article does not seem to be top news elsewhere.

Much of what WND publishes are not "fabrications", but they have a knack for finding the obscure and embroidering it quite a bit.

You left that part out for what purpose?
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. "the actual point being made"
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:50 AM
Jun 2015

....being that for every loon, there is an amplifier in one of the internet scare machines which ensures that said loon can be perceived as influential or representative of a significant body of thought.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
7. Peter Singer is well known.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:44 PM
Jun 2015

In some ways he's a bit of a loony. But he's a prominent loony, neither purely to the right or to the left, and very well known for some controversial pronouncements.

He's very explicit about his definitions, utilitarianist in philosophy, and has been mostly, in my experience, derided by those right of center. Seldom has anybody right of center found an ally in his thinking, but from time to time somebody left of center has.

For example, while he looks at costs, IIRC at some point he was all-in for animal rights. Useful life is useful life.

I moved from Oregon over 20 years ago. He was already pissing me off when I lived in Oregon. He must be quite advanced in years by now. Or he was precociously exasperating.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer
It's good to see that my memory's not quite failing. He is pretty much as I remember him, to the extent I paid any attention to him.

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