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Baitball Blogger

(46,742 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 02:52 PM Jun 2015

Crowe apologizes for Emma Stone casting

Seems like it's a current event and involves an issue that is political.

Aloha director Cameron Crowe is responding to some of the fierce backlash that accompanied the release of the movie.

The poorly reviewed Aloha, which had also caused controversy for its use of the Hawaiian word as its title, disturbed many viewers with its casting of Emma Stone as a character named "Allison Ng," who is meant to be a quarter Hawaiian and a quarter Chinese, which Stone is not.

On Tuesday Crowe took to his blog, TheUncool, to offer a "heartfelt apology" for the casting choice. He also went on to explain why he cast Stone in the part in the first place:

"I have heard your words and your disappointment, and I offer you a heart-felt apology to all who felt this was an odd or misguided casting choice. As far back as 2007, Captain Allison Ng was written to be a super-proud ¼ Hawaiian who was frustrated that, by all outward appearances, she looked nothing like one. A half-Chinese father was meant to show the surprising mix of cultures often prevalent in Hawaii. Extremely proud of her unlikely heritage, she feels personally compelled to over-explain every chance she gets. The character was based on a real-life, red-headed local who did just that."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/06/03/cameron-crowe-emma-stone-aloha-asian-casting-apology/28400233/

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Crowe apologizes for Emma Stone casting (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 OP
so nobody can play hamlet except for white guys? oh no! nt msongs Jun 2015 #1
I didn't watch Aloha, so I don't know the backstory on this one. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #2
I suppose if Asian actors were as ubiquitous as Whites on film, you'd have a good point. el_bryanto Jun 2015 #3
is there a problem with white guys being excluded from film roles? nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #4
When 'Aloha' has entered the lexicon of world wide literature and has been produced so many Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #7
Isn't "Strange Brew" basically Hamlet? hughee99 Jun 2015 #20
No, its much better Johonny Jun 2015 #22
Don't forget a cartoon lion. charlie and algernon Jun 2015 #32
Who would ever apologize for casting Emma Stone in anything? Tom_Foolery Jun 2015 #5
I know, this one could have used a better promo to explain Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #6
The director and screenwriter are responsible for making the plot points clear... Tom_Foolery Jun 2015 #8
This was all avoidable. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #9
I agree. n/t Tom_Foolery Jun 2015 #13
As a movie fan who keeps on these things..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #10
Who's going to apologize for this? Major Nikon Jun 2015 #11
Omigod! I almost posted that picture. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #12
haha ftw! n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #15
ha ha ha I never saw that before...and they weren't trying to be funny. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #25
Having lived for over a decade in Hawaii, I think this was a jarring choice mainer Jun 2015 #14
No, I'm pretty sure it's essentially saying there are probably a lot of people Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #17
Right. Cause Asian girls in bikinis are such a turnoff. mainer Jun 2015 #24
no, it's about name recognition Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #31
It appears no one watched it anyway mainer Jun 2015 #33
The true path to energy independence is harnessing fake outrage Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2015 #16
They existed Johonny Jun 2015 #21
I know at least one person who is part Hawaiian and looks haole KamaAina Jun 2015 #18
I think that's part of this particular character's bio, and it should Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #23
Most malihini (visitors, foreigners) don't. KamaAina Jun 2015 #27
mahalo. Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Jun 2015 #19
Turns out Crowe has done this before. mainer Jun 2015 #26
Kind of silly considering a white actress won an Oscar for playing a Chinese man Warpy Jun 2015 #28
Funny thing about "acting", while the cast needs to perform procon Jun 2015 #30
Would any of you object if Emma Stone played an African American slave? mainer Jun 2015 #34
What about Hugh Laurie pretending to be American in "House" and "Veep"? Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #35
Glad that he did. He should have. Number23 Jun 2015 #36

Baitball Blogger

(46,742 posts)
2. I didn't watch Aloha, so I don't know the backstory on this one.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

However, the explanation on the video seems to be reasonable. From what I can understand, the real life character does not look like a minority, though she is proud of her heritage. And this does have something to do with the character's personality and outlook on life.

I was hoping someone else had more information.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. I suppose if Asian actors were as ubiquitous as Whites on film, you'd have a good point.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jun 2015

But . . . well, you don't. I like Emma Stone a lot, and I think she's talented; but minority roles are few and far between unfortunately, and we need to have more of them going to minority actors.

Bryant

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. When 'Aloha' has entered the lexicon of world wide literature and has been produced so many
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jun 2015

times that no one has any sort of a count, anybody can play any of the characters. Is that a fair deal? I have seen Hamlet white, black, male, female, as a man and woman lashed together by ribbons and twine, a hand puppet in a cast of humans, a modern politician, a medieval Prince, a Victorian patient in a lunatic asylum, I have seen Hamlet 17 years old, 70 years old, indoors, outdoors, in Russian, Dutch, Arabic and Japanese. Kabuki Hamlet, Guignol Hamlet, Hamlet, the Musical.
Hamlet in 60 Seconds:

Tom_Foolery

(4,691 posts)
5. Who would ever apologize for casting Emma Stone in anything?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jun 2015

It seems that she fits the character description perfectly.

Baitball Blogger

(46,742 posts)
6. I know, this one could have used a better promo to explain
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jun 2015

the character and plot--though, isn't it the screenwriter's job to make the plot points clear? And, whose job is it to put together the right advertisement for this movie?

Tom_Foolery

(4,691 posts)
8. The director and screenwriter are responsible for making the plot points clear...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:17 PM
Jun 2015

But in the end, it all falls on the director because a movie is his/her vision. The production company is probably responsible for the advertising.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
10. As a movie fan who keeps on these things.....
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:53 PM
Jun 2015

.....I had no bleeping idea what this movie was about, when it was released or who starred in it except for hearing it was a bomb and awful.

Cameron Crowe, eh?....sure it had an awesome soundtrack for three hours.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
14. Having lived for over a decade in Hawaii, I think this was a jarring choice
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:05 PM
Jun 2015

I think Emma Stone's a superb actor. But a story set in Hawaii, with a character who's a quarter Hawaiian and a quarter Chinese, would NOT look like Emma Stone. It's essentially Crowe saying, "there are no ethnic actors capable of this role. I had to go white."

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
17. No, I'm pretty sure it's essentially saying there are probably a lot of people
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jun 2015

who would like to see Emma Stone in a bikini.

Casting decisions are business decisions.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
24. Right. Cause Asian girls in bikinis are such a turnoff.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:35 PM
Jun 2015

And no one wants to pay to see that. They only want to see white girls in bikinis.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
31. no, it's about name recognition
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

People see movies because they want to see specific actors. Emma Stone in a tropical setting will be appealing to some moviegoers.

It's about selling the movie, not satisfying the agendas of perpetually aggrieved who almost certainly wouldn't have watched it in the first place regardless of the casting.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
33. It appears no one watched it anyway
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Jun 2015

even with Emma Stone in it. It's been declared as an unmitigated flop.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
16. The true path to energy independence is harnessing fake outrage
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jun 2015

Where were the Miami Cubans to lose their shit over Tony Montana?

Johonny

(20,854 posts)
21. They existed
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

I remember reading a Roger Ebert column defending the choice of Al Pacino for the role. People confuse the lack of acting roles for minority actors with the demand that every role be played by the "right" kind of actor. When you have very few opportunities then the lack of a certain role being filled a certain way generates outrage, but the real problem is the total lack of opportunities. There are lots of incidental roles in any production, but often minorities are not cast in these roles unless the part calls out for X. It was incredibly true up through the 80s. It is less true today, but not totally false...

Baitball Blogger

(46,742 posts)
23. I think that's part of this particular character's bio, and it should
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:32 PM
Jun 2015

have made for an interesting socio-cultural perspective, but it sounds like the movie fell short of its mark. People didn't seem to get it.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. Most malihini (visitors, foreigners) don't.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jun 2015

P.S. The opposite of malihini is kama'aina, lit. "child of the land". Now you know.

Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

mainer

(12,022 posts)
26. Turns out Crowe has done this before.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jun 2015

"Even more ridiculous is the fact that this may not be the last time Cameron Crowe has given an Asian role to a white actor. In his upcoming Showtime comedy Roadies, which he wrote and directed, Crowe has cast white actress Jacqueline Byers to play Natalie Shin, a groupie-verging-on-stalker of the fictional band the TV movie follows.

The casting news came in January of this year, and while no one seems to have noted the suspiciously Korean last name of Natalie Shin's character, one anonymous commenter on Deadline has noted:

"Nothing against the young lady who booked the role, but in the script the superfan Natalie Shin character was Asian-American. In light of so much criticism (especially recently) about lack of diversity in Hollywood, I wonder why they decided cast a white actress."
Hmm. I know, anon comments are super reliable. The Internet has yet to lend other, more solid evidence of this yet, but in light of Aloha, I would not be surprised if Crowe has pulled another yellowface. Maybe Cameron Crowe doesn't know what Asian people look like?"


http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/06/cameron-crowe-casts-white-woman-to-play-asian-in-roadies

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
28. Kind of silly considering a white actress won an Oscar for playing a Chinese man
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jun 2015

The film was "The Year of Living Dangerously" and the actress was Linda Hunt. It was a good movie, Hunt was especially convincing.

While I would prefer seeing roles opening up for POC, I can't really object the casting of a white person as an American Mutt who doesn't look like one. I'm one of those too.

procon

(15,805 posts)
30. Funny thing about "acting", while the cast needs to perform
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jun 2015

according to the script, they don't actually need to be, or look, like the characters they play. Just as its OK to hire an actor to play a doctor in a movie, an actor doesn't need to be ethnically pure to play a certain role either. It's acting, folks, entertainment, not a documentary photo vignette, or a museum diorama.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
34. Would any of you object if Emma Stone played an African American slave?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jun 2015

Say, if she were the lead actress in "Twelve Years A Slave"? That's okay with you?

But of course, because it's all about box office, and the business guys in the top office want Emma Stone, regardless of the role.

And it's all -- ACTING! That's what matters!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
35. What about Hugh Laurie pretending to be American in "House" and "Veep"?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

Do we really need a foreigner to fake an accent and pass himself off? Are there not deserving American actors for these roles?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
36. Glad that he did. He should have.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

That's one instance of Hollywood whitewashing apologized for, 6,992,779,991 more to go.

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