Police: 4 relatives beat pregnant Texas teen to abort baby

[KamaAina]

http://www.sfgate.com/news/texas/article/Police-4-relatives-beat-pregnant-Texas-teen-to-6303920.php

Dallas police say four family members have been arrested after a 14-year-old girl impregnated by a relative was beaten in order to induce an abortion two years ago.

The Dallas Morning News (http://bit.ly/1EVty2B ) reports that the four people were arrested Tuesday on charges of engaging in organized criminal activity. They remained in Dallas County jail on Wednesday on $150,000 bond.

The hours-long attack allegedly occurred in 2013, but the girl only went to police last month. The girl said the baby was stillborn a couple hours after the beating.

An affidavit says the relatives then tried to burn the baby's body in a charcoal grill, but the remains were not destroyed. Two days later, the remains were disposed of in a plastic bag at an unknown location.

[Mr Dixon]

1. SMH

Madness

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. So incest and rape, and they didn't want anyone to know.

Another win for the foes of safe, legal, easy to obtain abortion services.

[Wilms]

6. Even the paper won't label it.

"...14-year-old girl impregnated by a relative...". WTH is that supposed to mean. It's rape...of a child.

[babylonsister]

3. Is this the replacement for abortions in TX now?

Sick and sad.

[liberal N proud]

4. If abortion is banned this and other means will become the only options

And yes it is sick!

[LuvLoogie]

5. More like an "honor" beating.

I cannot think that Texas law drove this base act. This is a deep level of opportunistic depravity.

[jeff47]

7. Your inability to think it doesn't mean it is not the case.

TX law makes it extremely difficult for a minor to get an abortion. Even with parental permission.

Open up the laws, and this girl gets to a doctor. Who gets to have a nice, private chat with her. Resulting in a call to the police.

[LuvLoogie]

8. According to the report, the assault took place in 2013

I may be wrong, but I don't think that Texas law prohibits abortion of pregnancies resulting from incestual rape. Also the rape by her relative occured in August of 2012. The beating by her relatives occured in 2013, when the girl was about 8 months pregnant. BTW do you know of many states performing abortions of a healthy 8-month fetus upon a young girl.

Also the clinics in Texas didn't start closing en masse until October of 2014.

This girls suffering came at the hands of her fucked up family. The Texas legislature had nothing to do with it. a liberal law would not have guaranteed this girl's seeking out an abortion on her own. Maybe she was in denial about being pregnant, or she was simply unaware, or terrified, or didn't want to implicate her relative because she loved the person. She was fucking 14 years old. The laws against rape and abuse didn't help her. The would-be good intentions of progressive angels might not have helped her either.

Of the relatives who raped and beat her, how many of those Texans do you suppose voted for progressive legislators? It really doesn't matter. This kind of shit happens all over this country, in every state.

[jeff47]

10. You're forgetting she's a minor

That means it's extremely difficult for her to seek out an abortion without her parents.

Maybe she was in denial about being pregnant, or she was simply unaware, or terrified, or didn't want to implicate her relative because she loved the person. She was fucking 14 years old. The laws against rape and abuse didn't help her. The would-be good intentions of progressive angels might not have helped her either.

That's it...wipe away any fault. Push it on off. Moooove that blame on away. Throw in a nice dig to try and disrupt anyone from bringing it back to reality.

Maybe move it into "mistakes were made" territory where no one has any responsibility.

Of the relatives who raped and beat her, how many of those Texans do you suppose voted for progressive legislators? It really doesn't matter. This kind of shit happens all over this country, in every state.

Perfect.

[LuvLoogie]

12. I put the blame squarely on the relative who raped her

and the relatives who beat her. I am fully aware that, at 14, she was a minor.

Your position is that "the devil" made them beat her. Or that, if she lived in another state, she would have been protected from the beating, perhaps not the rape, but definitely the beating.

You are conflating the cause and effect of abortion politics with the cause and effect of family disfunction.

[uppityperson]

11. Let's look at abortion laws in TX in 2012. Written parental permission, at least 2 visits, etc

"a liberal law would not have guaranteed this girl's seeking out an abortion on her own". Of course. No one is saying that. But looking at the laws in TX when she might have been able to get an abortion, it was quite restrictive. And, if as you say, she was unaware or terrified or another reason, WHY put MORE obstacles in her place.

Written parental permission. At least 2 visits. Ultrasound at least 24 hours before the abortion (asinine as it should be immediately prior, not 24 hrs+ before). Mandated 24 hour waiting period.

"a liberal law" such as ultrasound immediately prior to the abortion would not guarantee her seeking an abortion but would be much safer.

"a liberal law" such as not mandating written parental notification might have helped her not be terrified of her relatives and able to seek care for herself.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-center-for-choice/texas-abortion-laws

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The restrictions have forced us for now tostop offering medication abortion while we determine our next steps.
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As of October 1st, 2011, state law now requires all women seeking an abortion to have at least 2 visits to the abortion facility.

In the summer of 2011, the Texas Legislature passed a bill that requires women to have an ultrasound at least 24 hours before she has an abortion. Planned Parenthood always puts women’s health first and we fought against this law because there is no medical reason for requiring women to come 24 hours in advance. Ultrasounds have been a standard part of abortion services and are always performed on every patient before any type of procedure is done.
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In addition to the 2011 law requiring an ultrasound at least 24 hours prior to an abortion, the state passed a law titled "Women's Right To Know Act" that requires physicians to give women seeking abortions state-mandated information about medical risks, adoption alternatives, and developmental stages of the fetus. This information must be provided 24 hours in advance of the abortion procedure during the first visit when the woman receives her required ultrasound.
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Yes. In Texas and Louisiana, state law requires that the parent or legal guardian provide written permission for unmarried teens (under the age of 18) to have an abortion. There are a few exceptions: (clip)

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/08/10355099-texas-begins-enforcing-strict-anti-abortion-sonogram-law?lite

[LuvLoogie]

13. What Texas law kept her from reporting the rape?

Does a minor need to have a her parents' permission to report a rape by her relative?

Does a minor need to make 2 trips to the police station to report a rape by her relative?

Why didn't she report the rape by her relative?

[uppityperson]

14. I research and give info on TX abortion laws in 2012 and you ask what laws prevented her from

reporting the rape? Wtf?

TX abortion laws were, and are, overly restrictive and in some cases very poor medically.

[LuvLoogie]

15. But the abortion laws in place did not drive what happened to her.

Because she did not report the rape, she did not receive medical attention. She was not monitored for infection, pregnancy, injury, anxiety. The state of abortion laws in Texas had nothing to do with her predicament. She was already at the mercy of cruelty and abuse, and already reluctant to seek help.

Also, maybe she didn't want to abort the fetus. What if THAT was her choice. And if she did want to abort the fetus, then you have to ask yourself whether and how her parents would have/could have supported her, given that a relative raped her and other relatives beat her. What did her parents know and when did they know it?

What were the emotional/mental obstacles that prevented her from reporting the rape on her own, the rape that caused her pregnancy?

Two years later she has mustered the strength to report what happened to her. What changed? She's still a minor, and the laws are even more restrictive now.

[uppityperson]

16. You do not know that. I think we are arguing past each other here.

If she wanted an abortion, of course the laws would make that more difficult. If she wanted one and did not have to get written parental permission, it would've been easier, right?

That is my point.

One big thing that has changed in the last two yrs besides laws being more restrictive is she is no longer pregnant.

"What were the emotional/mental obstacles that prevented her from reporting the rape on her own, the rape that caused her pregnancy? "

That is a good question. Along with what are the obstacles that prevented her from seeking medical care, either abortion or prenatal?

[winter is coming]

9. +1. Not many 14 year olds are going to go to a judge to request an abortion.

Most of them wouldn't know they could do it, and even fewer would be willing to expose themselves to retaliation by exposing the incest in their family.