Obama Drops A Veto Bomb On GOP By Threatening To Veto Every Bill That Uses Sequester Cuts

[misterhighwasted]

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/02/obama-drops-veto-bomb-gop-threatening-veto-bill-sequester-cuts.html


The Administration strongly opposes House passage of H.R. 2578, making appropriations for the Departments of Commerce and Justice, Science, and Related Agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2016, and for other purposes.
The bill drastically underfunds critical investments in research and development that are key to advancing U.S. economic competitiveness and reducing taxpayer costs for securing essential weather satellite data and conducting an effective 2020 census.
It also severely underfunds State and local criminal justice assistance that helps ensure the safety and well-being of individuals and communities, and underfunds programs that would increase the use of body-worn cameras by law enforcement, expand training, provide much-needed police department reform, and multiply the number of cities where the Department of Justice facilitates community and local law enforcement engagement.
It also cuts support for NASA’s Commercial Crew Program that will help end our reliance on Russia for transporting astronauts, critical space technology investments that will help pave the path to reaching Mars, and earth science research that is helping us understand how our climate is changing and how to respond to earthquakes, droughts, and severe weather events. Furthermore, the legislation includes highly objectionable provisions, including provisions that continue unwarranted restrictions regarding detainees ....(more)

[hobbit709]

1. I'll believe it when I see it. He said he'd do a lot other things he hasn't.

[Cha]

4. "Obama vetoes GOP bill on union elections" your cheap ignorant pot shots mean less than zero..

"President Obama on Tuesday vetoed a Republican effort to overturn controversial union voting rules.

Congress passed a resolution of disapproval this month on a National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruling that sped up union elections.

Republicans dubbed it an “ambush election” rule, arguing it would allow unions to place undue pressure on workers and employers.

Obama vetoed Congress's measure shortly after noon in the Oval Office, the fourth veto of his presidency.

snip//

The president also announced the White House would hold a labor summit in the fall.

“The National Labor Relations Board’s representation case procedures rule helps to level the playing field for workers,” the administration said.

MOre..
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/237481-obama-vetoes-gop-bill-on-union-elections

[misterhighwasted]

5. + 10000 This ^ Too

[Cha]

10. Yes sir, misterhighwasted!

President Obama and his Veto pen!

[Iliyah]

37. + 1 zillion!

[hobbit709]

6. "Pot" shot like still having the Feds go after marijuana users and dispensaries.

He's done some things he's said but he's also NOT done some things he said.

[Cha]

7. Yeah I gave the facts on his vetoes. He's going to Veto it just like the OP

stated.

[hobbit709]

9. And I said that he's done some things he said he would and HASN'T done others.

I'm not limiting myself to just vetoes.

[Cha]

11. President Obama will VETO this monsterously, damaging gop bill.. HA!

[Plucketeer]

48. "President Obama on Tuesday vetoed a Republican effort to overturn controversial union voting rules"

Yeah, and he's got another pen that he's chomping to flow ink from - it's the pen to sign off on the TPP. A measure that could EASILY cut the legs out from a lot of what's left of union labor in this country. Remember - this is a president who retained a bunch of the previous administration's advisors rather than select fresh faces from the party it professed to be acquainted with.
This is a giant chess game. Moves that look fair to those who can only see one move at a time, prove to be devastating, three, four, ten moves ahead. I would not be surprised to come to find that this bill and veto weren't a staged event - one with the Rethugs "in on it" - to placate union leaders into trusting Obama's "reasoning" for the TPP. When he keeps something securely under wraps - something that's supposed to be a BOON to us peons - only letting the corporate interests who wrote it - SEE it....... You can bet there's a BIG shaft in our future.

Edit to add: It'll be the American people that have to "pony up" after the TPP sells us out.

[Cha]

66. Wah.. you can't stand it that he's going to block a gop bill that would be so damagaing to our

country.

You appreciate Nothing.

[Plucketeer]

74. LOL!!!

What's that old axiom about not being able to see the forest for the trees????? Yeah, he can AFFORD to use that veto pen - when he's brimming with confidence that the TPP will reverse his veto on this. It's a chess game - you gotta think a couple of moves ahead.

[BeanMusical]

55. Speaking of monstrosity...

Will he veto the TPP? Rhetorical question.

[JDPriestly]

85. I sure hope he does. We cannot afford those cuts. The Republicans are insane.

[babylonsister]

35. What, you didn't get your pony? nt

[Fred Sanders]

46. Everyone should have got a pony by now from Obama. The lack of perfection is outrageous!

[misterhighwasted]

47. Must have expected a pony in their inbox this morning

And all they got was a Obama Veto

[Fred Sanders]

49. The sad pony deprived folks are right to be angry at Obama...only another year and a half for the Pony Farm

bill to pass.

Being held up by the Chicken in Every Pot bill, I guess.

And not to mention Clinton has not said a word about ponies for weeks...what is she hiding?

[misterhighwasted]

50. Lol Fred Sanders, first 'no pony', then "hillary!!"

What a blow so early in the day

[randys1]

77. The Obama phone is another one. I have a relative who needs one and is actually

getting a SMART Obama phone.

It is not an Obama phone, of course, but I wish he would take credit for it, it is a great idea.

I cant tell you how much it helps someone who is on the outside looking in.

[Chan790]

82. I can buy my own pony with all the taxes I wish he'd ******* charge me.

Roll back the Reagan tax-cuts...trust me, silver spooners like myself can afford to pay those marginal-rates and I'd rather have all the services and programs we're not funding to keep taxes at levels meant to starve the government into abandoning the social safety-net programs.

[BeanMusical]

57. That's getting old.

[babylonsister]

60. So is constant anti-Obama kvetching.

[BeanMusical]

61. I don't do kvetching.

Criticism, yes, when it's deserved. Whining for no good reason, no. And I leave adoration to teens venerating their favorite band.

[Cha]

68. Yeah, so is the crowd that can't appreciate anything President Obama does. Whomever wins the

Dem Nom will need him and his coalition to campaign with them and for them.

I'm sure the candidates realize this.. just some of the supporters of a certain candidate who call him "The Trojan horse", "fucking pos used car salesman", "not a dem", etc".. can't see the whole forest. They're lucky if they can see the bitter lemon trees.

[eggplant]

64. I did. It was delicious. n/t

[fadedrose]

23. Cha, you're good...nt

[Cha]

26. Mahalo fadedrose.. U2!

[sheshe2]

33. I am so late for work!!!!!!!!!!

[Cha]

42. And, I'm late going to sleep.. but, yours is more important!

G'Day and Mahalo, she!

[lonestarnot]

38. Wonder if he will veto HB 1994

[Stellar]

41. hear, hear!!!! nt

[Cha]

44. Stellar! Nice to see you~

[A Simple Game]

65. The fourth veto of his presidency? Four vetos in six years. What point are you trying to make? n/t

[Cha]

67. That you don't get it.

[A Simple Game]

69. You're half right one of us doesn't get it. n/t

[Cha]

70. you don't get it.. no appreciation for the VETO PEN Against the GOP Agenda. Fine.

[A Simple Game]

71. Thank you for making my point and letting everyone know which one of us doesn't get it. n/t

[Cha]

72. You made your own point that you don't appreciate the Pres Vetoing gop Sequester Cuts.

[A Simple Game]

75. I don't recall saying that, perhaps you could point out the post in question.

I think I made it obvious that I didn't think four vetos in six years was an amount to brag about, while you seem to think it is.

[Cha]

76. No, you just get on and play games.

[A Simple Game]

78. I thought so. Have a nice day and don't worry I will play smart and safe. n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

80. Oh ffs. Obama has stood by his veto threat every single time...

[Cha]

2. great news, mhw! Of course it will be ignored. Oh, but "he's glad the gop are in power.." lol

[misterhighwasted]

8. HR 2578 is a typical RW bill. An attempt at pushing as far as they arrogantly can,

..and hope to get most of it.
Thanks Pres Obama.
Get your veto pen ready.

[Cha]

12. He's ready! and yes, Thanks President Obama.. not a time to whine.

[misterhighwasted]

13. Everything in this bill is damaging.

Veto is the only way to do business with the RW.
Thank you Mr President.

[Cha]

15. You'd think more people would appreciate it.. but, nooo. I think the ones who would appreciate it

are sleeping now.

I'm glad I saw it!

[misterhighwasted]

16. Enjoy your day Cha

(June 13 is only ten short days away!!!)

[Cha]

17. I know.. I'm excited! It's going to be a brilliant day on Roosevelt Island..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11078038

I will enjoy my day after I go to sleep and wake up.. it's 3am out here on Kauai.

You enjoy your day wherever you are!

[misterhighwasted]

21. lol..go to sleep.

[Cha]

22. I'm trying..

[fadedrose]

25. Thanks from me too... nt

[misterhighwasted]

29. Think..we could have had Mitt.

[JoePhilly]

19. YUP ... the Perpetually Disgruntled will ignore this completely.

Or, as we see above, complain about something else, or even nothing at all.

[Cha]

24. It's the MO.. so Predictable.. boring.

[Andy823]

30. Exactly Cha

From some on this board it's all about the "negative". If they can't find something negative to say about the president, they just ignore the truth. This same group has taken it to adding not only Hillary to their "negative" agenda, but pretty much the entire democratic party. The sad thing is they claim to be supporting Bernie, even though Bernie would never accept what they are doing. Bernie is liked by everyone, some of his supporters, not so much.

[Cha]

39. And, Sen Sanders would never win without that "Democratic Party" or the Obama Coalition

if he were to be the Nom.

Whomever wins will want President Obama to campaign for them and with them. I wonder why?.. That will be so much fun!

[djean111]

3. Can I veto anything that comes to Obama's desk that cuts money out of Medicare for TPP

purposes?

[misterhighwasted]

14. Sure, when you become President you can veto anything you want.

[geek tragedy]

18. Get 50 million Americans to vote for you then yes. nt

[JoePhilly]

20. Obama doing the right thing ... and the perpetually disgruntled ...

... remain so.

It must be awful when Obama does things that run counter to the "Obama Bad" narrative around here.

[fadedrose]

28. Obama "bad" doesn't play in my house

I keep thinking of reasons for what he does that many don't like. I think cali calls people like me "braindead," but I love cali too...

[misterhighwasted]

31. Must be a very unbearable day

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[1StrongBlackMan]

56. No it isn't ...

you just pretend it never happened and SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future). And, when THAT doesn't happen, you just SCREAM about something else that is sure to be &quot President) Obama Bad" (sometime in the future).

[fadedrose]

27. Child! what the hell are you drinking? nt

[procon]

32. THAT made me laugh! nt

[sheshe2]

34. KnR

[wolfie001]

36. Good to read about this!!!

Slap those GOP haters down!!!

[lonestarnot]

40. I love that Mr. President!

[fredamae]

43. "The Budget Control Act of 2011" SEQUSTER

http://www.foreffectivegov.org/files/budget/debtceilingfaq.pdf

If memory serves:
Too bad he didn't do that when "The Gang of Twelve" passed the bi-partisan Sequester Cuts...only to watch Every single Senator/House member and with Lightening Speed, I might add...Restore the FAA Sequester Cuts when Congress found out they might have to sit on their own asses ...for a much Longer Wait...to get their own rear-ends Home...only to let Cuts for patients in Cancer Treatments be halted, Only to let Meals on Wheels Funding Cuts go forward...and Funding Cuts for the Summer Free Lunch Programs for hungry children go by the wayside. But hey! Democrats, Repubs, Cons and Tea Party alike were NOT Hungry, nor "inconvenienced" one bit.

Not One Senator in the Dem Majority called BS on the "Unanimous Consent" Vote...and not One Rep in the GOP maj House called BS either. Then they sent Jan Schakowsky (musta drew the short straw) out to face the angry people on "the tv machine" to explain and then Admit, yes, sometimes congress acts in a "self serving" manner to please themselves.
More "fact and truth" about the party I had loved for decades.

Democrats are not always as "compassionately lovely" as they would want to appear.
Vet carefully and forget about party affiliation. See the Actions VS Consequence. Listen to what "they" Don't Say.
Stop Rationalizing Away their (Dems) reasons when time after time...We're Screwed and the Stock Market Rises. That is no coincidence. It is No accident. Not when "it" happens Every E'ffn Time. That's a Plan well launched.
The greedy oft times get their way...under the great façade of Finger Pointing, Projection and Transferring Blame.
And we forget too quickly....
I mean the best example of "our" collective memory lapses or Political Amnesia....is the fact the GOP, AFTER the Big Government Shutdown, costing us $24 billion dollars, not only Won both Senate and House Seats..they have a huge Majority now.
I have no faith and confidence in the "token populist" utterances today when So much harm has already been realized...from these "BI-partisan" deals.


In my opinion...of course

[misterhighwasted]

51. Or, Maybe people should have got off their dead asses & voted

..in the midterms to give Pres Obama a House & Senate he could work with.
Sadly its been a freakin battle all the way & we get shitty compromises.

Its the lazy voters that are to blame.

[rury]

54. Thank you misterhighwasted!! You NAILED it with this succinct post!!

K&R umpteen million times!!

[misterhighwasted]

63. Imagine what Obama's vision for our nation was when he took Office.

What could have been had voters given a shit in the midterms. Bitch about him all day but what the lazy voters gave him derailed the forward ideas he saw for America.

Appreciate you post rury.

[fredamae]

58. Some responsibility

def goes to those who did not vote...however, Who Has The Power of VETO when the "Rubber Meets the Road"?
And Why, after a Much Worse Dem Loss in 2014 does PBO Now see fit to threaten a Veto?
So, Nope, it's not that simple to "just blame voters" who stayed home.

[misterhighwasted]

62. He's left with shitty compromises and dirty, arm twisting deals,

..that never would have had to be made and his veto never threatened an override unless he settles for the best he can get.
I certainly do not proclaim that Pres Obama's duty is nearly as black & white as we see it from where we sit.

Any great progress Pres Obama has made on behalf of keeping the RW majority from dismantling Democracy to the point of no return, in his term I credit his masterful skill of negotiation.
That gift of his, is the reason we still live to vote in 2016.
The RW has been in the process of destroying that basic right also.
BTW.

[Cha]

73. Well done, mister! They can't or won't see the whole forest.. just picking to death the little trees

as in this case.

[Chan790]

84. The people will vote...

when the Democratic Party gives them candidates worth voting for. Too often Democratic nominees in the post-Carter era remind me of Eddie Izzard's "Cake or Death?" bit.

"Cake or death?"

"Eh, cake please."

"Very well! Give him cake!"

"Oh, thanks very much. It's very nice."

"You! Cake or death?"

“Uh, cake for me, too, please."

"Very well! Give him cake, too! We're gonna run out of cake at this rate. You! Cake or death?"

"Uh, death, please. No, cake! Cake! Cake, sorry. Sorry..."

"You said death first, uh-uh, death first!"

"Well, I meant cake!"

"Oh, all right...Cake or death?"

"Uh, cake please."

"Well, we're out of cake! We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush. So what do you want?"

"Well, so my choice is 'or death’?

Why should the public turn out for us when the Democratic party is so adamant on giving them shitty "or death" nominees? I know those sleazy stealth Republicans on the Democratic ballot-line really make me want to pull the lever for the Democrats. It's time to run the Clintonites and the DLC and the Third-Way and all their corporatist, "sensible", too goddamned chummy with Wall St. "electable" friends out of town on a rail before they finish the job of fucking-over poor people, minorities and everybody that isn't their entitled 1%er friends.

[jeff47]

79. Yeah, like the one he had in 2008! Remember how they slashed recovery funding?

Oh...wait...that isn't an example of what you claim.

Candidates are not entitled to votes. Candidates have to earn votes. When voters stay home, that is the candidate's fault. They are not "lazy voters". They are shitty candidates.

Who, btw, ran against exactly what you claim they would do - they ran desperately away from the ACA and recovery spending in 2010, and desperately away from Obama in 2014. If they won't admit to voting for the guy, you think they're going to be at his beck-and-call?

[Iliyah]

45. K & R

My husband's family roots are in Hammond/Lottie, Louisiana, and inducting the Bible/Creationist in place of "science" education is tragic.

[misterhighwasted]

53. Ya La is bad but Texas is following close behind you.

Why this next election is absolutely critical to motivate voters off their sofas & out the door to the voter booths.

So much in that area alone has been stacked against a functioning democracy, that I honestly don't think the country can recover if voters remain complacent in 2016.

Dems need to vote straight party line & hope the RW dominance can be fractured.

[MBS]

52. Good for him-

And thank you, misterhighwasted and Cha.

[misterhighwasted]

59. Thanks & nice to meet you MBS.

The day Pres Obama leaves office and settles into his his next home, he's gonna just sit down in a big soft recliner with a cold beer and say "WTF !?" He's done less than he wanted to but far more than expected considering what he was given to work with.
Voting Matters 2016

[Cha]

81. Oh wow.. I almost missed this! Mahalo to you, MBS!

[lovemydog]

83. Thank you President Obama.

Thank you for vetoing this anti-science anti-police accountability hogwash.