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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:01 AM Jun 2015

The Rude Pundit - How Not to Be a Conservative Asshole About Caitlyn Jenner ...

(Featuring Advice from a Conservative)

When the former Bruce Jenner made her debut as Caitlyn Jenner with the release of the Vanity Fair cover photo and story, the reaction from the right was mostly as predictable as the yappy little dog barking next door at 7 a.m. (shut the fuck up, Piddles!) and about as meaningful. The Twitter responses ranged from "I'm gonna try to be funny about my assholery" to "I'm a total cockknob and don't care who knows."

More in-depth fuckery is easy to find. Here's Matt Walsh in The Blaze (motto: "If Glenn Beck doesn't have an outlet, he will go on a seven-state killing spree&quot : "What (Jenner) most closely resembles is a mentally disordered man who is being manipulated by disingenuous liberals and self-obsessed gay activists. Far from having the appearance of a genuine woman, he reminds me of someone who is being abandoned to his delusions by a culture of narcissistic imbeciles...This is a bastardization of our humanity on a scale and to a degree that wouldn’t have even crossed the tortured minds of last century’s most prophetic social critics." There is a lot of vagina sand in those ellipses, as well as more overwriting than Harlan Ellison on a meth bender.

Of course, one aspect of Jenner's life that interested some on the right is that, pre-transition, Bruce Jenner had proclaimed he was a Republican. Would Caitlyn also be GOP, as if somehow becoming a woman would make her change her political beliefs (which, quite frankly, is not a crazy assumption)? On Fox "news," two-fifths of The Five proclaimed that it was more brave for Jenner to say she's Republican than to make a gender change.

And this is where a lonely conservative blogger on right-wing urinal Hot Air comes in. This morning, Amanda Munoz posted on how great Caitlyn Jenner would be for the Republican Party, and, whether or not you agree with her politics, it is a primo example on how conservatives should not be assholes about Jenner.

Munoz welcomed Jenner: "It was refreshing to see the way in which she was overwhelmingly welcomed into this world." She continued, "With the momentum from this announcement and affiliation, Caitlyn inadvertently gave the Republican Party something it desperately needs more of – 'street cred,' simply put, an understanding sense of humanity. The party overall was to warm up to these 'differences' and use them as a broader tool to crush problems (not people) that really matter – like insurmountable national and student debt, ever-increasing national security threats and domestic encroachments on Constitutional liberties – Democrats would stand no chance."

That's kind of amazing. And Hot Air, despite its insanity, is no fringe website. Obviously, the comment section is filled with love and support. No, please, it's just an unending stream of anger, transphobia, crank psychology, and stupidity.

Munoz even made it onto Shakey the Deaf Clown's Masturbatorium of Hate, where Shakey the Deaf Clown jiggled his jangly jowls about how ludicrous Munoz was and offered some nutzoid psychoanalysis of his own: "We should not be celebrating this, we should not be lionizing this, we should not be encouraging this. These people have a very serious problem, and they need treatment. They need help, not encouragement." Also, according to Shakey, trans is the new gay, since the gays have won their battles. Or some shit like that.

As for Caitlyn Jenner, she is a marketing genius, frankly. Not only did she put out a picture that probably confused the hell out of many a libido yesterday (although it shouldn't have), but she has a reality show where she gets to own her exploitation. In that way, as a good capitalist, Caitlyn Jenner, like her previous gender incarnation, represents what America is at this moment.

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The Rude Pundit - How Not to Be a Conservative Asshole About Caitlyn Jenner ... (Original Post) meegbear Jun 2015 OP
Seems that most progressive people will look at Caitlyn Jenner with an interested look,... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #1
That's an appropriate response. Wish her well, then carry on. alfredo Jun 2015 #3
There's little enough happiness and contentment in this life. sarge43 Jun 2015 #12
I guess no one remembers Christine Jorgensen. To me she was the first transgender....n/t monmouth4 Jun 2015 #2
I remember that ann--- Jun 2015 #5
You mean "stay in the closet"? ProfessorPlum Jun 2015 #13
No, I mean ann--- Jun 2015 #16
SHE. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #15
Would have ann--- Jun 2015 #4
Well said and absolutely correct... monmouth4 Jun 2015 #6
I see where you are coming from (the whole family are media crazed) but I also want to point out ProfessorPlum Jun 2015 #7
Absolutely spot on. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #9
I think though she was relentlessly followed by the media, it would be very hard not to polly7 Jun 2015 #10
Bzzt! She not he. justiceischeap Jun 2015 #11
THANK YOU! Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #14
K&FuckingR...... daleanime Jun 2015 #8
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
1. Seems that most progressive people will look at Caitlyn Jenner with an interested look,...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jun 2015

....come to the conclusion that "I'm glad the person is happy" and then wonder what to have for lunch.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
3. That's an appropriate response. Wish her well, then carry on.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:08 AM
Jun 2015

She has a good support system, her own life, back off and let her live it.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
12. There's little enough happiness and contentment in this life.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

Jenner has found hers and has done no harm to anyone.

So, go for it girl and may the force be with you.

By the way Caitlyn, you might consider changing political parties now.. The GOP thinks The Handmaiden's Tale is an owner's manual.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
5. I remember that
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:16 AM
Jun 2015

But, he didn't overwhelm the media with it the way Jenner is doing. Fine - he wants to be a girl - go ahead. Do it in private and get along with your life. I'm wondering if any straight men would answer honestly about whether they are attracted to him now.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
13. You mean "stay in the closet"?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 01:50 PM
Jun 2015

"Do it in private" is what people who are supposed to be appropriately shamed by society are encouraged to do. Is Jenner doing something shameful, or something she should be ashamed of?

and who gives a crap who is attracted to whom? A woman's worth (and a person's worth) are not defined by who finds them attractive.

If you don't like the coverage because it makes you feel icky, then read about something else. The age of forcing people who are different to hide who they are should be over (and should have been over long before this).

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
16. No, I mean
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jun 2015

not making a spectacle of himself and definitely gaining a
profit from it.

I don't read about it. The headlines are there on the internet
and TV that can't be avoided.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
4. Would have
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:15 AM
Jun 2015

had a lot more respect for his decision to become female if he had not made it a media circus - WANTING all the attention that only a rich person able to afford the surgeries would get.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
7. I see where you are coming from (the whole family are media crazed) but I also want to point out
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jun 2015

that transgender people are killed all the time, routinely, day after day after day. Not only do they get murdered, but they also commit suicide at tragic rates.

Jenner's media circus, as self-serving as it is, also begins a process by which the rest of America can start to process our feelings, both positive and negative, about our transgender brothers and sisters, and for that it will be an important turning point.

There have been others in the past (Renee Richards comes to mind), but I applaud her for putting it out there and not hiding in some kind of shame. That's an example that we all need to get more comfortable with.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Absolutely spot on.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:52 AM
Jun 2015

Jenner's life has been media heavy,a gigantic sports star, a very popular tv host, every part of Bruce's life was in the media and thus is it fitting that Caitlyn's life also be lived in the media. It's not as if Jenner was a hermit until the transition. She did the whole thing in public, which is brave as shit for anyone and more so for a famous person with an athletic based celebrity.
That other poster is looking for shame, not finding it and attempting to create it out of nothing.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
10. I think though she was relentlessly followed by the media, it would be very hard not to
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jun 2015

be seen as creating a circus when every move you make is scrutinized and picked apart on every gossip page and media source.

Definitely it was her own choosing to participate in a reality show, but when you've got absolutely no privacy anyway ....... why not, and get it over with? And maybe her experiences will help someone else.

Yes, she's very lucky to have had the finances for surgeries many suffer whole lifetimes hoping for and not being able to get. I'm glad there's at least one less soul who will go through the torture of not being able to portray on the outside what they know they are on the inside.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
11. Bzzt! She not he.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jun 2015

You may not respect how she's handling this but at least have the respect to refer to her by her true gender. Caitlyn Jenner is a woman and you disrespect every member of the trans community (including some DU members) by referring to her as a man.

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