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MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:43 PM Jun 2015

If you're all so bent on predicting what will happen, based on who wins the primary, why not THIS?

What will happen if we don't demand accountability from who's running gainful employment out of the country?

*What will happen if we continue to let someone else duke it out over the SCOTUS decision of Citizen's United?

*What will happen if the banking industry, not the human beings running it are the only ones held "accountable" for big banks holding the return on investment for criminal actions of OUR money?

*What will happen with continual legislation to spy on everyone?

*What will happen with routine college debt and nothing to show for it but two shitty jobs to never pay off that debt?

*What will happen to the working class and working poor?

*What will absolutely happen if WE don't demand accountability and reparation?


This isn't a football game, citizens…

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If you're all so bent on predicting what will happen, based on who wins the primary, why not THIS? (Original Post) MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 OP
I don't get how people rail against corporations and citizens united then turn around and onecaliberal Jun 2015 #1
There's your catch-22. Mr. Robot Jun 2015 #2
if you benefit from the status quo, you'll want a candidate who will keep the status quo. nt antigop Jun 2015 #3
I thought we were the people who fought for onecaliberal Jun 2015 #4
If we don't walk the walk, we're may end up voting ourselves into an epic shakedown. NYC_SKP Jun 2015 #6
Couldn't a agree more. I'm really at a loss lately. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #7
For some those are just bullshit words spoken. zeemike Jun 2015 #13
Then, you're definitely not part of the group that's feeling it, are you? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #5
The ones who are actually gleeful because they think Bernie has no chance make no sense to me. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #8
Precisely. He is for every policy we are supposedly for. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #9
Bingo. In different words how can Democrats support HRC? nm rhett o rick Jun 2015 #10
They are a minority. Just part of the base of the party, Bernie is already drawing away part of that sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #11
The question becomes can we get enough of them.... daleanime Jun 2015 #12
I think we can! I already got one, non voter, so far and without trying very hard. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #15
I hope so..... daleanime Jun 2015 #18
Good statistics moment. In fact, I think my nephew is among this... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #16
"This isn't a football game..." That's what I always think when I see die-hard politician "fans." C Moon Jun 2015 #14
Doesn't this go against the standard... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #17

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
1. I don't get how people rail against corporations and citizens united then turn around and
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jun 2015

Support the corporate candidate.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
4. I thought we were the people who fought for
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jun 2015

The least of us. Those who stand for the status quo, stand for greed and corruption.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. If we don't walk the walk, we're may end up voting ourselves into an epic shakedown.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:33 PM
Jun 2015

I don't doubt that the leading candidate means well.

I just think that they are waaaay out of touch and really wedded to the wrong interests.

Hiring someone who says they want to end Super PACs by using Super PACs is disqualified right from the start.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
7. Couldn't a agree more. I'm really at a loss lately.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:54 PM
Jun 2015

It's like living in an alternate reality. I didn't get it when Obama did it, I don't get it or agree with it now. If corporations give you millions they will expect a quid pro quo. That's precisely how our party has arrived at this point in time. I refuse to continue doing the same thing that has proven time and again not to work.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
13. For some those are just bullshit words spoken.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 01:08 AM
Jun 2015

So they can claim membership in the liberal club.
Judge them by their actions not their words, because anyone can speak the words.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
5. Then, you're definitely not part of the group that's feeling it, are you?
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jun 2015

Nah… None of that percent of folks are gonna feel the pain I'm talking about. THEY don't HAVE to vote… THEY can now BUY their policy with good ROI.

 

peecoolyour

(336 posts)
8. The ones who are actually gleeful because they think Bernie has no chance make no sense to me.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jun 2015

Even if I weren't a hardcore Bernie supporter, I can't imagine myself not wanting to see him do well.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
9. Precisely. He is for every policy we are supposedly for.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jun 2015

And unlike every modern day candidate before him, he's proving it by refusing to be purchased by corporations. He's everything I've been waiting for. I will do everything I can to support his candidacy.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
11. They are a minority. Just part of the base of the party, Bernie is already drawing away part of that
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jun 2015

small voting bloc. Dem base is now only 32%, down from over 40% in 2008. Those who left are now part of the largest voting bloc in the country, registered Independents, now at between a historical 42% - 46%. And the other huge potential voting bloc, non-voters, many of whom just gave up on the system.

Neither corporate candidate can get those two huge voting blocs, but Bernie Sanders can and will imo. Those who SAY they oppose everything we all oppose but remain loyal to their party do make me wonder. It is hard to give up on something but frankly when it comes to this country, I choose the country.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. I think we can! I already got one, non voter, so far and without trying very hard.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 01:37 AM
Jun 2015

With hundreds of thousands of volunteers and Social Media working so well for him, I do think we could get enough of them to vote.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
16. Good statistics moment. In fact, I think my nephew is among this...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:01 AM
Jun 2015

He's 28, and his parents are heavily in the football booster club, where primarily, it's the "D" that counts, not what the "D" stands for.

I've always been what the platform STANDS for. Judging from our conversation last evening, he's out there with a LOT of clueless NON-voters, who don't understand WHAT the "D" stands for, based ON the status quo!

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
14. "This isn't a football game..." That's what I always think when I see die-hard politician "fans."
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 01:34 AM
Jun 2015

In primaries, I make my decision as things unfold (I don't want to say who I voted for in the 2008 primary), vote, and if my choice loses, I live with it.
I get MUCH more worked up in the general election. :O

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
17. Doesn't this go against the standard...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:04 AM
Jun 2015

You "fall in love" in the primaries… then "fall in line" with the general.

I've always hated that meme.

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