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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: USA Freedom Act Passes Senate.
Just heard this on the CBS radio news. No link yet.
ETA: Link:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/02/politics/senate-usa-freedom-act-vote-patriot-act-nsa/
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)Freedom, my ass.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Don't kill the messenger.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)I still remember the Peacekeeper Missile.
Arbeit macht Frei!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Everything not forbidden is mandatory.
Freedumb.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)There was talk of amendments, or promises of amending it in future, for it to pass. We shall see.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)It is a major modification of the Patriot Act, as I understand, and seriously restricts things like the NSA collecting of information on people who are not under suspicion. If that's the case, then I don't have a lot of problems with it. We still have some security problems outstanding.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Included major mods to 215.
After turkey goes to oven... Some research to do.
peecoolyour
(336 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)I just reported the vote.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)without amendments. It goes to President Obama for his signature. Apparently he will sign it.
If I understand this correctly, it limits the NSA's ability to monitor communications and requires specific court orders. I have not read the bill, though, so I'm not sure how strong these limits are.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I haven't heard much of this debate. But when they give it a name like "Freedom", we should be very wary.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)except for the new restrictions on NSA communication intercepts.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Interesting. Sanders, too, by he's an Independent as a Senator.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)eom
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)I edited the post above.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)A Senator was saying something to the effect that we had to be able to keep secrets and he was critical of Edward Snowden.. I didn't catch his name..
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)US Senate votes to curtail bulk data collection
The US Senate has voted to limit the government's ability to collect phone data, a policy that had been in place since the attacks of 11 September 2001. The USA Freedom Act extends the government's ability to collect large amounts of data, but with restrictions. The bill, which replaces the Patriot Act, had been backed by President Barack Obama as a necessary tool to fight terrorism. Mr Obama said on Tuesday that he will sign the bill into law.
The bill undoes a national security policy that had been in place since shortly after the attacks on 11 September 2001. The new law replaces a National Security Agency (NSA) program in which the spy agency collected personal data en masse. The revelation of this program by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden triggered a global public backlash.
Instead of receiving bulk quantities of data from telephone and internet companies the NSA will now be forced to request the information through a court order. The data will also be stored on telephone and internet company servers rather than government servers. The request must be specific to an individual entity such as a person, account, or electronic device. A six-month transition will be in place as the policy shifts so that data storage remains with private companies, rather than on government servers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32982140
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)No wonder all but one Senate democrat voted for it. Senator Sanders voted no. Obama will sign it. There it is.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I can understand why President Obama will sign it, because it could have been worse, we still need counterterrorism efforts in place, and this will replace the most intrusive aspects of the Patriot Act. I can also understand why Senator Sanders voted no, as he feels it doesn't protect individual privacy enough. I respect them both.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)If so, I can't see how this is progress for Democrats.