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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:01 PM Jun 2015

Hillary Clinton To Hold First Campaign Rally In NYC Honoring Franklin Roosevelt

Clinton to hold first campaign rally in NYC
By Ben Kamisar


Hillary Clinton will hold the first major rally of her presidential campaign on June 13 in New York City.

She'll speak at the Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park in her adopted state, which she represented for eight years in the Senate, campaign officials told reporters.

“Her speech will lay out her view of the challenges facing this country and her vision and ideas for moving the country forward,” an official said.

“Throughout her career, Hillary Clinton has been inspired by FDR’s belief that America is stronger when we summon the work and talents of all Americans and has long admired Eleanor Roosevelt as a role model.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/243617-clinton-to-hold-first-campaign-rally-in-nyc
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Hillary Clinton To Hold First Campaign Rally In NYC Honoring Franklin Roosevelt (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2015 OP
That is simply Hillaryous. n/t Wilms Jun 2015 #1
What a pant load. L0oniX Jun 2015 #2
A nice gesture - certainly someone championing Roosevelt and his policies el_bryanto Jun 2015 #3
I remember discussing FDR in a high school class in North Miami Beach. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #67
I think it is called political optics. Good thing she didn't have it in Arkansas. libdem4life Jun 2015 #4
Why would she have it Arkansas? She wasn't born there, and hasn't lived there for decades. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #20
That's a slap in the face to FDR Robbins Jun 2015 #6
There you go w/historical facts! Divernan Jun 2015 #15
This is going to be so very cool. KMOD Jun 2015 #7
This will not end well. azmom Jun 2015 #8
Since it didn't start well, I didn't expect a happy ending Demeter Jun 2015 #57
Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #9
I prefer to call them the Faith Militant LordGlenconner Jun 2015 #11
Yay Hillary!!! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #10
Sign up here... brooklynite Jun 2015 #12
I imagine she'll get quite a crowd for this. MineralMan Jun 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalElite Jun 2015 #17
And by "number of those who support her" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #53
Yes. I assume that anyone who takes the time to go to MineralMan Jun 2015 #56
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #14
Good job, Ms. Clinton. Great pick! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #16
Eleanor Roosevelt: "Is in a class all by herself" A 1993 article about First Ladies... (edit) Cerridwen Jun 2015 #18
I'll just say for now...she's no FDR. SoapBox Jun 2015 #19
Not even a pale shadow. hifiguy Jun 2015 #21
The political observations of the Zombie Anti-Hillary clan .. trumad Jun 2015 #23
Why can't you be more like your brother? murielm99 Jun 2015 #29
It has reached a level of bitterness that it makes me wonder Purrfessor Jun 2015 #55
I guess repubbies and trolls do not murielm99 Jun 2015 #65
I can assure that we are all living and breathing frylock Jun 2015 #32
Billionaire class, huh? Do you know much about FDR? DanTex Jun 2015 #60
No doubt, yours is in response to someone saying she is, yes? LanternWaste Jun 2015 #36
Not even an Eleanor Roosevelt Demeter Jun 2015 #58
She could honor him by being more like him. Fearless Jun 2015 #22
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. Demeter Jun 2015 #59
K & R! Iliyah Jun 2015 #24
Remember an event in NY rather like this one: leveymg Jun 2015 #25
Does this mean Hillary will win two landslide victories and bring in dozens of Democrats to power ? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #30
not unless her favorable ratings rise considerably cali Jun 2015 #41
She's working on it DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #42
Those pesky little facts. William769 Jun 2015 #64
Hillary actually lives here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #34
It's the basking in the shadow of icons stuff that's so overdone and revolting. leveymg Jun 2015 #38
ok but i don't see how this relates to Hillary. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #39
Just look at the title of the OP at the top of the thread leveymg Jun 2015 #43
I see your point. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #44
I wonder what phony accent she will bring to this event? eom Purveyor Jun 2015 #26
Brooklyn! hootinholler Jun 2015 #35
Upper Hudson Valley leveymg Jun 2015 #45
The Onion... raindaddy Jun 2015 #27
Great going for first rally, Hillary is coming on strong. Looking forward to her Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #28
Hillary you are so phony. INdemo Jun 2015 #31
Optics over Substance! hootinholler Jun 2015 #33
Getting harder and harder to tell Borowitz from the real thing Fumesucker Jun 2015 #37
that's special. Next: a goose hunt.nt Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #40
That ought to play well in Iowa. She just lost another 5 points of her lead in Iowa to Bernie. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2015 #46
57-16? I''ll take that... brooklynite Jun 2015 #52
5 points here 8 points there no big deal, you know just like last time. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #54
Wanna look at the last Des Moines Register poll (January)? brooklynite Jun 2015 #62
January, no I don't see any need to look at your dated statistics. Let's see what they A Simple Game Jun 2015 #71
another HRC thread. .... quickesst Jun 2015 #47
I hear Alanis Morissette is going to introduce her with a song. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #48
Oh puhleeze matt819 Jun 2015 #49
Hey did u go to all the "look at the huge crowd for Bernie" workinclasszero Jun 2015 #63
Nice try matt819 Jun 2015 #72
The location is a great choice for many reasons. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #50
The location is a great choice for many reasons. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #51
Very happy to kick and recommend! William769 Jun 2015 #61
I hope all our candidates get huge crowds... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #66
Which accent will she use? Joe the Revelator Jun 2015 #68
Is this a democratic site? FloridaBlues Jun 2015 #69
I was just going to post something similar. It's like reading Free Republic. Metric System Jun 2015 #70

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
5. I remember discussing FDR in a high school class in North Miami Beach.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jun 2015

The dynasty ended with him...After him the furthest a Roosevelt got in politics was mayor of Miami Beach.

Response to el_bryanto (Reply #3)

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
20. Why would she have it Arkansas? She wasn't born there, and hasn't lived there for decades.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jun 2015

If that's the case, Bernie should have held his kickoff in Brooklyn, and Barack Obama should have gone back to Hawaii. NEWS ALERT: SHE LIVES IN NEW YORK NOW, but let's just keep that between us.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
6. That's a slap in the face to FDR
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jun 2015

he must be turning over in his grave over that.

FDR was hated by wall street so much they plotted to overthrow him,and he led us out of depression through taxing rich and spending money on programs.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. There you go w/historical facts!
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jun 2015

She should launch her campaign from the trading floor of the NYSE.

This park is relatively small, very enclosed tip of a small island - easy to fill and easy to keep all protestors out. They'll probably have ticketed admission. Take a look at it. It's closed to the public when "private events" are scheduled there.

http://www.fdrfourfreedomspark.org/

ON EDIT: Typical double-speak instructions/explanation, telling us it's ticketed but tickets are not required and ticket holders get expedited entry, but it's also first come, first serve.

The event is open to the public, but it is recommended that guests register for a ticket for expedited entry . . .
Tickets are not required and do not guarantee admission due to space constraints, but every guest is encouraged to RSVP. All entry to the rally will be first-come, first-served.


If it's first come, first served, and "tickets are not required" why are RSVP-ers getting tickets for "expedited entry"?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/events/view/?id=78696/&utm_source=sp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20150601jp_launch&utm_content=22751599-20160601-JP-launch%20%281%29&utm_term=www_hillaryclinton_com_yo&spMailingID=22751599&spUserID=MTA3MzIzMDc5NTE5S0&spJobID=580080112&spReportId=NTgwMDgwMTEyS0

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
13. I imagine she'll get quite a crowd for this.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:23 PM
Jun 2015

She has many loyal supporters in her race for the White House. She'll also be drawing from the enormous population of NYC. There will be no mistake about the numbers of those who support her there.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
53. And by "number of those who support her" ...
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:42 PM
Jun 2015

you are referring to the composition of the crowd ... No?

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
56. Yes. I assume that anyone who takes the time to go to
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jun 2015

that launch is an active supporter. I assume that of any event where a candidate shows up to make an announcement like that.

That certainly doesn't mean that only those who show up at such events are supporters. For example, I could not attend Bernie Sanders' event in Minneapolis due to a previously scheduled activity. I would have gone, otherwise, since I'm caucusing for him here on March 1, 2016. On the other hand, I'd probably attend a Hillary Clinton event, too, if I could, since I expect her to be the eventual nominee, and I'll certainly support her if that is the case.

The number of attendees at an event is interesting, but not a real indication of actual supporters. It all depends on where, when, and the population of the surrounding area. I'd expect any event in New York City to have a high attendance. Similarly, the 3000 or so people who showed up to see Sanders seems appropriate for the Twin Cities, MN. The metro area here has a population of over 3 million. It's not hard to turn out 3000 for an interesting event. Three times that number showed up for a dog walk here that supports an animal rescue organization. That event raised over $1 million. My wife and I were there with our dogs.

Turnout isn't necessarily in proportion to support, really. It's just interesting.

Cerridwen

(13,260 posts)
18. Eleanor Roosevelt: "Is in a class all by herself" A 1993 article about First Ladies... (edit)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jun 2015

Eleanor Roosevelt: "Is in a class all by herself" A 1993 article about First Ladies during an interview with new First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I remembered her being quoted as looking up to Eleanor Roosevelt. I went looking for an/the article.

This is what I found at the News-Journal, Parade Magazine, April, 1993: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1901&dat=19930411&id=Vg4qAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ztMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2907,5302920&hl=en

I hope the link works. It's a scan of the pages of the article.

edit to fix name of publication

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. Not even a pale shadow.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jun 2015

She will never welcome the hatred of the billionaire class she grovels for.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
23. The political observations of the Zombie Anti-Hillary clan ..
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jun 2015

are so fricking amazing.

Wow...she's not like FDR! Uh....who the fuck is?

murielm99

(30,755 posts)
29. Why can't you be more like your brother?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jun 2015

Nag, nag, nag, nag...

Trumad, I have seen so many posts here saying that Bernie supporters do not bash Hillary. This whole thread shows what a lie that is.

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
55. It has reached a level of bitterness that it makes me wonder
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jun 2015

how many actually support Bernie and how many are GOP infiltrators whose only goal is to divide Democrats and incite enough hatred of Hillary that many people will simply not vote if she is the nominee.

murielm99

(30,755 posts)
65. I guess repubbies and trolls do not
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:23 PM
Jun 2015

understand reverse psychology. If they gripe about Hillary enough, a lot of people will begin to understand that they are doing this out of fear and blind partisanship. They will support her because they know she is capable of beating any republican. They will look at the clowns dissing her and see that she is much better than they are. And if they are smart, they will begin to notice how qualified she is.

Too bad more people aren't that smart to begin with.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
60. Billionaire class, huh? Do you know much about FDR?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jun 2015

He was born into aristocratic privilege, and is first job out of law school was as a corporate lawyer on Wall Street. I can't imagine how much DU would have trashed him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. No doubt, yours is in response to someone saying she is, yes?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jun 2015

No doubt, yours is in response to someone saying she is, yes (otherwise, the only other real option we're left with is grade-school petulance)?

You'll of course, direct us to the relevant, emphatic and clear statement.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
22. She could honor him by being more like him.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:46 PM
Jun 2015

Still waiting for a denouncement of the TPP. Still not holding my breath.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
59. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jun 2015

But darn it, FDR keeps rising from the grave...taunting all the 3rd Way DINOs.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
41. not unless her favorable ratings rise considerably
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jun 2015

Being popular with dems isn't enough and it is very, very unlikely that she'll have d much AA support as Obama did.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
38. It's the basking in the shadow of icons stuff that's so overdone and revolting.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jun 2015

It's not the venue shopping thing. Here's another example of how Reagan did image manipulation so effectively. This one is in San Diego and is today used as the centerpiece at pacificbattleship.com.



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
43. Just look at the title of the OP at the top of the thread
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jun 2015

The honoring FDR, honoring American heroes, honoring gerbils, etc. stuff is so cliche, particularly when there's a national icon in the background. Reflected glory tends to diminish the object.

It's been done to death. I wish she had a more creative creative team.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
35. Brooklyn!
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:42 PM
Jun 2015

I can hear it now, "I know you want I should kick some terrist ass."

I can't wait to for her to come to Baltimore so I can hear her do Hoilentoun and then go downy eastren shorr.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. Great going for first rally, Hillary is coming on strong. Looking forward to her
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:22 PM
Jun 2015

Speech. So far several heads have exploded. If you don't have anything to beat her with then it doesn't do anything towards supporting another candidate. They need to remember this, Hillary has stood the test many times, she will again this time also

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
31. Hillary you are so phony.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:30 PM
Jun 2015

Hillary you are not an FDR, never will be, never ever will even come close.

You are not a liberal so stop giving us the "I'm to the left" when you are supported by the Wall St mafia your rhetoric is very difficult to take serious.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
33. Optics over Substance!
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jun 2015

If only all the candidates would be more like Hillary.

The irony is strong in that one.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
54. 5 points here 8 points there no big deal, you know just like last time.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jun 2015

Remind me, last time, how did that work out again.

Oops, never mind, I looked it up. Well if nothing else she did put on a good "show" in the old Iowa horse race last time.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
71. January, no I don't see any need to look at your dated statistics. Let's see what they
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jun 2015

look like in August.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
49. Oh puhleeze
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jun 2015

Can we please just stop the sniping. Okay, Hillary will have a bigger crowd than Bernie. Fine. So what?

These are two excellent candidates, along with O'Malley. They're not perfect, but they are better than anything on the right.

I know it's futile to ask that we all just cut the crap on who's got a bigger. . . crowd.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
63. Hey did u go to all the "look at the huge crowd for Bernie"
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jun 2015

posts and tell them to lay off? Or is it just the Hillary ones you want to surpress?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
72. Nice try
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jun 2015

Not the same thing.

The Bernie posts were about the crowds he generated at various events. The posts I read didn't make any comparisons to Hillary events, past, present, or future.

In contrast, this OP basically says, if you think Bernie's crowds or big, you ain't seen nothing yet. That is what is pointless, but it looks like I'm going to have to just suck it up and read this kind of shit for the next 12 months or so.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
68. Which accent will she use?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:25 PM
Jun 2015

Her Iowa accent may be ok, but if she slips up and uses the SC voice, she's going to go over like a fart in a car.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
69. Is this a democratic site?
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

To much negitivity in DU for Hillary on this site. Might as well be reading fox site.

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