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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:28 AM May 2015

Are you thinking what I'm thinking about Dennis Hastert (R)?




We don’t know — we may never know — what former U.S. House speaker Dennis Hastert did that was so bad, if anything. What we do know: Prosecutors say he was willing to pay $3.5 million to cover it up. The former lawmaker was indicted this week on charges that he lied to the FBI and tried to disguise cash withdrawals paid to an unnamed party identified only as “Individual A” to “compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct against Individual A.” Hastert’s “prior misconduct” was not explained.

While “the indictment did not spell out the exact nature of the ‘prior misconduct’ by Hastert,” The Washington Post reported, “… it noted that before entering state and federal politics in 1981, Has­tert served for more than a decade as a teacher and wrestling coach at Yorkville High School in Illinois.”



The indictment’s allusion to Hastert’s tenure as a wrestling coach and teacher was provocative. So was its reference to Individual A. Individual A claimed to have known Hastert “most of” his or her life. Individual A met with Hastert repeatedly “in or about 2010? and “discussed past misconduct” by Hastert against him or her that “had occurred years earlier.” And, allegedly, Hastert paid Individual A off.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/05/29/jaw-dropping-dennis-hastert-indictment-stirs-deeper-mystery/
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Are you thinking what I'm thinking about Dennis Hastert (R)? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 OP
Yes, and it's sad... CTyankee May 2015 #1
I realize the inherent problem with making assumptions. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #3
Lynn Sweet said that indictments that mention such details such as the coaching do so CTyankee May 2015 #5
I don't believe he would have paid 3.7 m to hide the fact he was stealing school supplies./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #6
that eraser was just one theft too many... CTyankee May 2015 #7
He didn't think it was sad malaise May 2015 #19
+1! freshwest May 2015 #24
+1000 Tom Ripley May 2015 #25
Geez. This is the second time in a month I agree with malaise. HERVEPA May 2015 #26
Thank you Person 2713 May 2015 #29
You're welcome malaise May 2015 #35
Yup. lamp_shade May 2015 #2
"We don’t know,we may never know what former U.S. House speaker Dennis Hastert did that was so bad." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #4
yep NJCher May 2015 #8
Should have taken some advice from Jim Bob greymattermom May 2015 #9
So I figure that it's really that he didn't want to endanger his lucrative lobbying career... CTyankee May 2015 #10
It has to be a sex charge, doesn't it. Nothing else makes sense. Zen Democrat May 2015 #11
And that is the danger now lurking for him...just who was lining his pockets and what CTyankee May 2015 #13
More likely he was diddling teenage boys LordGlenconner May 2015 #28
He was great as the driver in the film "Heat." Orrex May 2015 #12
I think blackmailers should be jailed fadedrose May 2015 #14
I agree blackmailers should be... Whiskeytide May 2015 #15
My compassion will be a function of the severity of what he was paying to keep quiet for./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20
We will probably know eventually. MohRokTah May 2015 #16
Fathered child with female student...... Stainless May 2015 #17
I'm sad for the child and its mother... CTyankee May 2015 #18
possible then that he was paying for the child and the mother in addition to blackmail... CTyankee May 2015 #33
Maybe he bet illegally on wrestling matches? Nye Bevan May 2015 #21
That's it...I would gladly pay $3,700, 000.00 to cover that up./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22
And zero fucks would be given if that was the case- snooper2 May 2015 #23
Maybe he was a closet soccer player. Timing is everything, you know. libdem4life May 2015 #27
This story isn't new Politicalboi May 2015 #30
Speculation can be worse than the truth and if he doesn't come up with it, lonestarnot May 2015 #31
My old mentor called me last night Kelvin Mace May 2015 #32
BOOM DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #34
As in malaise May 2015 #36
It wasn't very hard, Malaise. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #37
Like you I feel very sorry for the victim malaise May 2015 #38
IMO, this goes deeper with lobbing for foreign governments may send him CK_John May 2015 #39

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
1. Yes, and it's sad...
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:33 AM
May 2015

the man has been haunted by this for a very long time. You can't help but feel some pity for the guy's family who, through no fault of their own, are going to be dragged through the mill with him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
3. I realize the inherent problem with making assumptions.
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:35 AM
May 2015

But we do know the blackmail stems from the time he was a high school and wrestling coach and the person doing the blackmail knew him at that time.


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Lynn Sweet said that indictments that mention such details such as the coaching do so
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:38 AM
May 2015

"for a reason." So she said it was a big factor in this case.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
19. He didn't think it was sad
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:03 AM
May 2015

when they were impeaching Bill Clinton - fugg 'em - not one iota of sympathy here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
4. "We don’t know,we may never know what former U.S. House speaker Dennis Hastert did that was so bad."
Fri May 29, 2015, 08:37 AM
May 2015

I am pretty confident we are going to find out.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
10. So I figure that it's really that he didn't want to endanger his lucrative lobbying career...
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:19 AM
May 2015

it would be all over if brought to light. Also, the embarrassment of his family would be pretty difficult since I will bet they were unaware of the problem.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
11. It has to be a sex charge, doesn't it. Nothing else makes sense.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:23 AM
May 2015

By the way, where did this former high school teacher and wrestling coach get millions to pay hush money? Ill-gotten gains.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. And that is the danger now lurking for him...just who was lining his pockets and what
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:30 AM
May 2015

for? Another can or two of worms to be opened...

This is a double disaster for Hastert...

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
14. I think blackmailers should be jailed
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:33 AM
May 2015

To know of some crime and not report it is being guilty of the crime. If the victim of the blackmail reports it to authorities, the cops should respect the motives, if one of them is contrition, things might not go so bad.

There are bad cops, but there are very good ones too. I feel for Hastert no matter what he did because the threat of exposure has been punishing enough.

I hope the blackmailer gets worse treatment from the law than Hastert.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
15. I agree blackmailers should be...
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:42 AM
May 2015

... prosecuted. But we don't really know this was blackmail. If Hastert harmed or damaged individual A in some way years ago, this could be a settlement of a potential lawsuit. If it turns out to be a situation similar to the Sandusky offenses, I'd be more inclined to see IA as a victim.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. We will probably know eventually.
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:48 AM
May 2015

Individual A will probably be indicted for blackmail.

And yes, inferences seem to point to misconduct while a wrestling coach.

Stainless

(718 posts)
17. Fathered child with female student......
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:01 AM
May 2015

According to person who lived in same town. Called in to Stephanie Miller Show a few minutes ago. Plausible rumor!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. Maybe he bet illegally on wrestling matches?
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:21 AM
May 2015

Or worse, fixed the outcome of wrestling matches that he had bet on?

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
30. This story isn't new
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:36 PM
May 2015

There were rumors of Diddling Dennis a few years ago, then it disappeared. So glad it's come back.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
31. Speculation can be worse than the truth and if he doesn't come up with it,
Fri May 29, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

I'm for making shit up! Is he in the basement yet?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
32. My old mentor called me last night
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:06 PM
May 2015

and started off the conversation "How did you know? How did you know about it all those years ago?"

He was referring to a conversation we had back in 2006 about Hastert and his handling of the Foley scandal. I didn't recall the conversation until reminded, but I hand noted that Haster's handling of the matter was highly suspicious to me in how he bent over backwards to excuse Foley's conduct and shield him. My remark was to the effect that Hastert struck me is a fellow traveller, and as he had been a wresting coach, I would not be surprised if he had been "molesting boys" back in his day because that was the vibe I got from him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
37. It wasn't very hard, Malaise.
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:00 PM
May 2015

We knew it dated back to the time he was a high school teacher and wrestling coach and the person doing the blackmailing to the tune of 3.7 m was somebody who knew him at the time.

I feel bad for the victim. I am ambivalent about Hastert but I am happy the Republicants are getting it in the ear.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
38. Like you I feel very sorry for the victim
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

but I'm celebrating this ReTHUG scumbag's fall from his sanctimonious perch.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
39. IMO, this goes deeper with lobbing for foreign governments may send him
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:40 PM
May 2015

and others to Club Fed.

I think the FBI have flipped him or someone else. I hope some others are not sleeping so good.

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