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A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:21 PM May 2015

IT'S RACE DAY!!! Watching the Indianapolis 500? Check in here!

Last edited Sun May 24, 2015, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

I love..LOVE this race.

Was a credentialed participant 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94 (winning team ring) & 95. With the exception of 1995, the company I worked for won the race each year as an engine manufacturer, so I should have 5 rings, but only was invited to buy the 1994 issue (Al Unser JR.)

Here's the truck I drove in those days, which was parked about 200 yards from the finish line, outside the garage area;

1990 & 91


Edit to add this pic; The above truck on Monday Morning, after the race - load out day. "Gasoline Alley" sign in the background. Back then it was home to the shop for a day or so and then straight over to Milwaukee for the next weekend.


92, 93 & 94;


!995;


LET'S GO RACING!!


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IT'S RACE DAY!!! Watching the Indianapolis 500? Check in here! (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM May 2015 OP
I was planning to watch some paint dry... brooklynite May 2015 #1
Thanks for checking in! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #2
Uh huh. Apparently you have never seen real racing competition RoccoR5955 May 2015 #39
Rally cars, maybe... brooklynite May 2015 #44
I just saw this..... A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #45
Thanks for the reminder AgingAmerican May 2015 #3
Glad to help. n/t A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #4
watching... can't believe that dumb wreck in the first lap OKNancy May 2015 #5
1st lap was/is always a nail biter. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #6
went to the race many times... dhill926 May 2015 #52
grew up in indy....always take a peek. spanone May 2015 #7
Seems to me the Indianapolis Star was still doing that in the early 90's. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #9
they may have been, i moved away in the 70's. spanone May 2015 #12
The advent of alcohol as a fuel was a serious step forward for safety, that's for sure. n/t A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #14
true, but then they couldn't SEE the fire! another real danger. spanone May 2015 #17
It certainly was a trade off. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #18
Tough luck. SCVDem May 2015 #8
Honestly, I think "Straight, No Chaser" killed "Back Home in Indiana" A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #11
You're a bunch of rocktivity May 2015 #10
Guilty! n/t A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #16
I'm waiting for it to be electric... hunter May 2015 #13
Twin turbo, 2.2 liter V6's. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #15
Recording the 500....may get to catch some of the last laps at Charlotte. ileus May 2015 #19
Yes it is! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #38
Lap 65 SCVDem May 2015 #20
I have ABSOLUTE personal experience in that admonition! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #23
Parents are at the track, but I'm in that local Indianapolis media market. NuclearDem May 2015 #21
My sympathies! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #25
They broadcast it usually right after the race itself is over. NuclearDem May 2015 #27
Got ya. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #29
Just walked in. A tad under 200 miles. C'mon, from one professional driver to another... cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #22
Depends on whether or not it makes you late for the race, numbnuts! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #24
Dude... yer never late for a race when ya got a DVR. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #26
Like I said "elsewhere"....I was within just a few miles of you 40 hours ago. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #28
How come they only turn left? pangaia May 2015 #30
Because if they go right, they'll bump into the people. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #31
Ah, just pullin' your chain. pangaia May 2015 #32
The tire changey thingy is actually quite interesting, but I won't bore you. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #34
I can see why. pangaia May 2015 #36
There ya go! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #37
I'm in first place !!!!! pangaia May 2015 #40
YAY! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #41
Nah, back in # 6. pangaia May 2015 #42
Lots of racing left. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #43
It's blacked out here in Indy. AngryOldDem May 2015 #33
Always had the radio AND the TV going in the garage. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #35
EXCELLENT! A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #46
Really looking forward to watching it. AngryOldDem May 2015 #50
Congrats to JPM ileus May 2015 #47
It's the Hoosier High Holy Day AnnieBW May 2015 #48
Thank your luckey stars the Rooney family owns the Steelers. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #49
I Live in The DC Area AnnieBW May 2015 #63
Ahhhhh....the poor uninformed..... A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #53
not a racing fan..... chillfactor May 2015 #51
I love the race... odd_duck May 2015 #54
Great race- my husband and I enjoyed watching. Congrats to Montoya! MerryBlooms May 2015 #55
It was Chevrolet's day Brother Buzz May 2015 #56
I live near Indy AwakeAtLast May 2015 #57
Holy damn...You never told me you were a team participant... Blue_Tires May 2015 #58
Engine manufacturer. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #60
Maybe the most boring sport ever. Maybe golf is worse. nt Logical May 2015 #59
NASCAR success may have eluded Juan SCVDem May 2015 #61
He won a couple of road coarses. Ganassi racing hasn't done much with any of their drivers Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #62

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
1. I was planning to watch some paint dry...
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:25 PM
May 2015

If I feel the need to watch cars make left turns for two hours, I can go down to the corner.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
39. Uh huh. Apparently you have never seen real racing competition
Sun May 24, 2015, 02:46 PM
May 2015

Otherwise you might say something different
At more than 200 mph, it takes great athletic ability to withstand the g-forces around the turns.
Then there are the real places where races are won and lost. That is in the pits. The pit crews carry on a routine that would rival any dance troupe, as coordinated as they are.
And there is much strategy in figuring out, toward the end of the race, how to to conserve fuel and maintain speed.

It's not just cars turning left. It is so much more.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
45. I just saw this.....
Sun May 24, 2015, 03:15 PM
May 2015

and thanks.

The first response to my thread....moments after the initial OP, was the one you responded to.

I really didn't have anything else to say at that moment than what I did.

I appreciate you typing what I didn't

This event holds a special place in my life and I could wax on ad nauseum as to its significance, the difficulties, the engineering exercise it is, the strategy, etc.

Thanks.



Thanks.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
6. 1st lap was/is always a nail biter.
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

As has been said many times, you can't win the race on lap 1, but you sure as hell can lose it.

dhill926

(16,355 posts)
52. went to the race many times...
Sun May 24, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

when we lived in Indy. Still remember sitting in Turn 1 the year Mario and Michael Andretti pinched Cheever off on the first lap. Place went friggin' nuts...

spanone

(135,873 posts)
7. grew up in indy....always take a peek.
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:46 PM
May 2015

as a kid, i sold newspapers at the track on race day.....

after an accident, they would put a new headline & story on the front page and people would buy another copy of basically the same paper....

that was early-mid sixties.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
9. Seems to me the Indianapolis Star was still doing that in the early 90's.
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:49 PM
May 2015

Lots of cool stuff like that about this race from back then.

It is a real shame to see so many open seats now. When I was there, it was always a sellout.

spanone

(135,873 posts)
12. they may have been, i moved away in the 70's.
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:53 PM
May 2015

in '64 i was selling papers when eddie sachs & dave macdonald crashed and died in a fireball in the fourth turn....where i was working.

this was back when they were still using gasoline in the cars....it was horrific

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
18. It certainly was a trade off.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:19 PM
May 2015

Not to tell you what you already know, so for the benefit of others;

Alcohol fumes, unlike gasoline fumes are lighter than air. BIG safety feature.

The fires can be put OUT with water. Water tends to spread a gas fire.

Much safer all around as far as flash point, volatility, etc.

The CART (the sanctioning body back then for all the other races on the circuit) safety guys used to give demonstrations to local fire department fire fighters that were assigned to the races. One of them had a sick sense of humor and was a smoker. The lead guy would be giving his talk, next to a 5 gallon bucket full of the Methanol. Mr. Card would smoke his smoke down to the end and at the right moment, toss his lit butt into the bucket. Experienced fire fighters would see how quick they could jump backward! The butt goes out instantly, of course and that is the big lesson and point.

There is famous footage of Rick Mears in pit lane, with alcohol flames under his helmet, jumping up and down, trying to get help.. You're right.....it did present new issues, but overall, it saved lives, of that I have no doubt.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
11. Honestly, I think "Straight, No Chaser" killed "Back Home in Indiana"
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:50 PM
May 2015

They honored the song, and Mr. Nabors.

But true, Ol' Jim was an icon and a fixture at the Speedway for years.

Edit...yes...crashing out early totally sucks! back when the teams were there for the whole month for the one race, it was completely hearbreaking. All that money and time and effort.......ziiip. gone.

hunter

(38,326 posts)
13. I'm waiting for it to be electric...
Sun May 24, 2015, 12:54 PM
May 2015

... recharging okay, battery swaps not.

Fuel engines are so 20th century.

(But exciting too.)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
19. Recording the 500....may get to catch some of the last laps at Charlotte.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:29 PM
May 2015

One of the best racing days of the year.

We're about to hit the pool and who knows what until 5. Then we're heading to the neighbors cabin for some fishing, fire, and cookout.

If the CMS race is still on when we get home around 11 or so we'll watch the final laps.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
38. Yes it is!
Sun May 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
May 2015

If you're up early enough, you get the Monaco GP live.

Then Indy.

Then Charlotte.


Yup....Summer's here!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
23. I have ABSOLUTE personal experience in that admonition!
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:35 PM
May 2015

Practice session, pit lane at Indy, back in the day.....

OK...not going to drop names or situations, but yes, you are absolutely correct.

NEVER turn your back on a running race car.

Ever.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
22. Just walked in. A tad under 200 miles. C'mon, from one professional driver to another...
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

That's not too far to go in order to hang out in the Stadium Club and sit 100 feet from The Plate.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
24. Depends on whether or not it makes you late for the race, numbnuts!
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

Glad you made it home safe! Would have loved to have been there to share a beer and the 7th inning stretch!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
26. Dude... yer never late for a race when ya got a DVR.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:40 PM
May 2015

I was going to watch from the beginning but saw info upthread that made it unnecessary LOL.

Yeah it WILL be nice when we finally get to share an experience like that.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
28. Like I said "elsewhere"....I was within just a few miles of you 40 hours ago.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:43 PM
May 2015

So...there is that.

I have to find a gig that isn't timed like an airline!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
31. Because if they go right, they'll bump into the people.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:50 PM
May 2015

LOL...sorry.....

Plenty of street/road circuits as well, so you just have to watch the other races during the season to see them turn the steering wheel the other way!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. Ah, just pullin' your chain.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:57 PM
May 2015

I'm rooting for the green car. I like the color.
That's how I choose football teams.. the uniforms I like ...

Baseball, now that's another matter.. a serious matter..


I don't know how in the heck they change tires so fast..
When I switch out my summer and snow tires it takes me an hour and a half..

Enjoy...


A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
34. The tire changey thingy is actually quite interesting, but I won't bore you.
Sun May 24, 2015, 02:03 PM
May 2015

The green color however.....

In years past, AJ Foyt refused to pit next to a green painted car.

No shit.

Superstitions, and all.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
37. There ya go!
Sun May 24, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

The superstition goes to "British Racing Green", if I remember what I was told correctly. Tales would be told differently by different sorts, I suppose.

The year after I first started in the biz, Porsche showed up with a Green car.

Old AJ wanted nothing to do with them!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
42. Nah, back in # 6.
Sun May 24, 2015, 03:05 PM
May 2015

I knew he couldn't hold it.. His car doesn't go fast enough. The leader was topping out at 230. green car--Kimball at about 226.

What do I know?

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
33. It's blacked out here in Indy.
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:59 PM
May 2015

Will be shown tonight.

I'm keeping up with it through the radio -- I'm checking in every so often. There's no point in trying not to find out who wins before tonight, unless you go hide in a cave, since local media is ALL over this all day. Actually, I like listening to it on the radio, especially the last few laps. The announcers make it quite exciting.

Go Tony Kanaan.

(And Straight No Chaser is a fitting follow to Jim Nabors. They did a spectacular job.)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
35. Always had the radio AND the TV going in the garage.
Sun May 24, 2015, 02:04 PM
May 2015

They do a great job on the radio, no doubt.

Could not agree more on the S-N-C reference. Those guys killed it.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
50. Really looking forward to watching it.
Sun May 24, 2015, 05:16 PM
May 2015

As usual, I heard the last 10 laps via the radio. Coverage starts at 7 p.m. here.

AnnieBW

(10,454 posts)
48. It's the Hoosier High Holy Day
Sun May 24, 2015, 04:04 PM
May 2015

My husband is from Indianapolis. When I met him 30 years ago, I didn't realize that people from Indianapolis were as obsessed with car racing as Pittsburghers were with football. So, I put up with his race fanaticism one day a year, and he puts up with my football fanaticism from September to February.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
49. Thank your luckey stars the Rooney family owns the Steelers.
Sun May 24, 2015, 04:57 PM
May 2015

Imagine being a fan of Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder teams.

AnnieBW

(10,454 posts)
63. I Live in The DC Area
Wed May 27, 2015, 10:37 PM
May 2015

I grew up in Pittsburgh, but I live in the DC area now. The Washington football team, and its owner, are an embarrassment.


A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
53. Ahhhhh....the poor uninformed.....
Sun May 24, 2015, 05:45 PM
May 2015

Last edited Sun May 24, 2015, 07:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Who have no appreciation for the Brickyard......






LOL...

It is an interesting phenomena, but alas, I see it's twilight.

The increasingly vacant seats at Indy, year over year, is testament to a post above mentioning waning interest in automobile racing.

I could write an essay as to why I think the Indianapolis 500 Mile Race is an important institution. Stating the mere fact that it is simply a car race in May, or even further that it is basically an annual engineering exercise in the middle of this country, does not do justice to what has become an honorable history, that ensures this exercise takes place in such a fashion, that the worldwide attention of the automotive industry as a whole, is grasped by it.

odd_duck

(107 posts)
54. I love the race...
Sun May 24, 2015, 06:43 PM
May 2015

But the IMS needs to be more equitable and fair when it comes to the Pace Cars. You know, ....a Dodge next year, a Chevy a year after that, then a Ford after that. Not just Chevy, year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year..................................................................

AwakeAtLast

(14,133 posts)
57. I live near Indy
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:57 PM
May 2015

So I don't watch. And with the weather we had today, I didn't care to, which is not normal for me.

I have been to the track many times, enjoyed it, but I have kind of lost interest. I don't know the drivers any more.

Love the pics, they are really cool!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
60. Engine manufacturer.
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

I was never on a racing team pit crew or anything like that. I drove that truck, looked after it and took care of the engineers that worked off it - food, drinks, etc.

Here's Rick Mears in the center section of the trailer. A computer room is behind him, equipped with static dissipative laminate countertops and an uninterruptible power supply;


Worked for Lola Cars in 1996 on essentially the same sort of trailer, albeit a class "6" as opposed to a class 8 like in the OP.

Here's the Lola truck in front of some familiar scenery:

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
61. NASCAR success may have eluded Juan
Sun May 24, 2015, 11:09 PM
May 2015

I was really hoping he could do it, and he did.

Great race and one other thjing,

Being a gearhead Sunday, why am I watching softball on espn2? NHRA is now an hour overdue.

Softball or 20,000 horsepower.

Duh

UPDATE: ESPN2 is showing basketball. It's an hour 5. No crawl.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
62. He won a couple of road coarses. Ganassi racing hasn't done much with any of their drivers
Sun May 24, 2015, 11:57 PM
May 2015

in NASCAR.

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