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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:41 PM May 2015

Iraqi Army 'Abandoned Tanks, Artillery And Humvees' To Isil In Fall Of Ramadi

Extent of Iraqi army chaos revealed by Pentagon alongside claims that corrupt officers sold battle plans to jihadists

By Richard Spencer, Middle East Editor
7:54PM BST 19 May 2015

The full extent of the Iraqi army’s failure in its defeat by Isil in the key western city of Ramadi has been revealed by Washington, which said it left behind tanks, armoured vehicles and other weapons to the jihadists.

A Pentagon spokesman said that the Iraqi security forces (ISF) abandoned “half dozen tanks” as it fled, along with a similar number of artillery pieces, even more armored personnel carriers and about 100 other vehicles such as Humvees.

Some of the vehicles left behind by the departing Iraqi army

The revelation - confirming previous claims by jihadist websites - came on top of allegations by an Iraqi adviser and analyst that army officers had been bribed by the jihadists to hand over plans for Ramadi’s defence.

“Corrupt ISF commanders in Ramadi took bribes in exchange for battle plans and logistical information,” Hashem al-Hashimi said on Twitter.

“Clean” ISF commanders felt isolated by the corruption of those around them, he said.


The Iraqi army’s elite “Golden Brigade” found itself surrounded and cut off at the end of last week after a major push at Ramadi’s weak points by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on Thursday.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11616780/Iraqi-army-abandoned-tanks-artillery-and-Humvees-to-Isil-in-fall-of-Ramadi.html
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Iraqi Army 'Abandoned Tanks, Artillery And Humvees' To Isil In Fall Of Ramadi (Original Post) Purveyor May 2015 OP
300 billion plus down the toilet again. sharp_stick May 2015 #1
Down the toilet? Hardly gratuitous May 2015 #2
That's true sharp_stick May 2015 #3
Nice! Looking forward to seeing what this does with my munitions stocks. Katashi_itto May 2015 #4
You're right! NobodyHere May 2015 #5
Yes! Hillary will do wonders for my munitions stocks! Katashi_itto May 2015 #6
You're right NobodyHere May 2015 #7
Bet death to win, place AND show! gratuitous May 2015 #11
More US war equipment to be bombed by US war equipment. WilliamPitt May 2015 #8
Sounds just like the ARVN in Vietnam. BillZBubb May 2015 #9
Can't Rec the ARVN comparison enough One_Life_To_Give May 2015 #12
If troops and equipment aren't used up, they can't be replaced. leveymg May 2015 #10

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. 300 billion plus down the toilet again.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:04 PM
May 2015

We sure trained these guys well, they can't even run and hold onto their damned equipment.

Thanks a lot George W. Bush and Paul Bremer you polyps in the rectum of civilization.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Down the toilet? Hardly
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

Now we can sell another $300 billion worth of hardware to Iraq. It's called "winning" fer crissakes! As for who is winning, well, it ain't you and it ain't me, but somebody sure is making out like a (you should excuse the expression) bandit.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
3. That's true
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:17 PM
May 2015

I wasn't thinking as a productive member of the MIC. I hope it doesn't get out or they'll take away some of my Raytheon shares.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
4. Nice! Looking forward to seeing what this does with my munitions stocks.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015

That's GWB! Your the gift that keeps giving!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Bet death to win, place AND show!
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:32 PM
May 2015

It's the American way.

Any blowback, however, is totally because of all our freedoms and not because our main export is death. So stop saying that.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
9. Sounds just like the ARVN in Vietnam.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:46 PM
May 2015

America supplied lots of equipment and the ARVN abandoned it all the time. Corruption abounded too.

It is foolish to equip an army that isn't as willing to fight as their opponent and can't purge corrupt leaders.

w bush opened this can of worms and we will never put them back no matter what we try.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
12. Can't Rec the ARVN comparison enough
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:50 PM
May 2015

History going to repeat itself. No way to win when the locals can't be bothered to hold what has been won.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. If troops and equipment aren't used up, they can't be replaced.
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:51 PM
May 2015

If they aren't replaced, nobody makes any money. What good is an Army like that?

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