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global1

(25,251 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:10 PM May 2015

Hypothetically - If For Some Reason Due To Some Scandal Hillary Gets Knocked Off As The Democratic..

nominee for the presidency - would the Dems then get behind Bernie or would they urge another Dem to run for the nomination.

We all know that the Repugs are gunning for Hillary looking for any angle to knock her out - be it Benghazi, these e-mails or some other invented scandal. I was just wondering if they are successful in some way, shape or form and she has to drop out of the race for the Dem nomination - who would the Dems back?

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Hypothetically - If For Some Reason Due To Some Scandal Hillary Gets Knocked Off As The Democratic.. (Original Post) global1 May 2015 OP
We really need to see the field. NCTraveler May 2015 #1
And where would the pro-Clinton Super-PACs spend their money? arcane1 May 2015 #2
I would go the O'Malley route. leftofcool May 2015 #3
What if O'Malley decides not to run.. and neither Democrat jumps in.. eloydude May 2015 #18
Just Bernie and Hillary? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #27
O'Malley will announce on the 30th. He's already rented 7500 sq ft of office in Baltimore FSogol May 2015 #38
You betray your agenda by using the word 'scandal'. randome May 2015 #4
Sorry But There Is No Agenda Here On My Part..... global1 May 2015 #11
The email stuff isn't much of a 'scandal' IMO, but sorry if I presumed too much. randome May 2015 #21
Bernie if they want to win. Autumn May 2015 #5
Good post.We now learn Hill's emails won't be disclosed until Jan. Just in time for a shit show TheNutcracker May 2015 #6
If Hillary dropped out you mean? hrmjustin May 2015 #7
Then you are not a true Democrat. You are part of the problem, justin. eloydude May 2015 #19
I would say something here but you are not worth a hidden post. hrmjustin May 2015 #20
I'm not interested in baiting you. I'm trying to understand why you insist on stubbornly supporting eloydude May 2015 #22
Oh really. Seems like you are baiting me. hrmjustin May 2015 #23
+1 Sobax May 2015 #29
Not worth it! Not worth it! Not worth your time! leftofcool May 2015 #26
Agreed! hrmjustin May 2015 #32
Benghazi nor any other rightwing manufactured hysteria is going to cause Hillary ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #8
Remember, the "Dems" don't want anyone rocking the corporate boat either. PeteSelman May 2015 #9
They aren't the only two people in the race JustAnotherGen May 2015 #10
That's not going to happen Lil Missy May 2015 #12
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #30
Thanks for the update. I should have known it would ruffle a feather or 2. n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #42
I know from experience around here that Sanders supporters have to grow a thicker skin. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #43
The party would rally around Joe Biden and I suspect the president would get actively involved... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #13
They will push for a moderate. F4lconF16 May 2015 #14
I would think the Democrats would push someone who both illustrates the party platform and is LanternWaste May 2015 #15
I would have to think... kentuck May 2015 #16
I would want another Dem to run against Bernie. Cleita May 2015 #17
Joe Biden. nt stevenleser May 2015 #24
Logical minds think alike. See Post 13/NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #35
Knocked off by "scandal?" As opposed to what? rocktivity May 2015 #25
Except this time she has a fifty point lead to play with... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #34
Against which field -- the Dems or Repubs? rocktivity May 2015 #41
The Dems.... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #46
So Bernie needs a Hillary scandal to get the upaloopa May 2015 #28
No doubt there will be one, manufactured of course, but it is around the corner. leftofcool May 2015 #40
Whoever has the most delegates. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #31
MARK! THIS! DOWN! Bernie Sanders, under no circumstances, will be the Democratic candidate. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #33
Should Hillary decide not to run sadoldgirl May 2015 #36
Hillary has already announced that she will be seeking the Democratic nomination. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #37
The only thing that would stop her is an "act of God." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #39
I've read these words so many times before madokie May 2015 #45
Voters might stop her. davidn3600 May 2015 #47
I literally wouldn't bet against her./Nt DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48
Its not going to matter madokie May 2015 #44
Yes, of course... most dems would fall in love with Bernie too... I think we have best of both uponit7771 May 2015 #49
If Hillary dropped out I suspect Elizabeth Warren would jump in. DCBob May 2015 #50
Hypothetically, if pigs sprouted wings and began flying... MohRokTah May 2015 #51
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. We really need to see the field.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

I think the structured components of the party would back O'Malley at this point in time. I believe he is going to get in very soon. Fair question. Look forward to the replies.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. And where would the pro-Clinton Super-PACs spend their money?
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:14 PM
May 2015

Assuming they spend it on campaigns, of course.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
18. What if O'Malley decides not to run.. and neither Democrat jumps in..
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:01 PM
May 2015

Just Bernie and Hillary...

Then what? Bernie is the perfect candidate to go with today's toxic climate. It's time to learn if the people wants to go back to productivity or the same old shit.

Hillary represents the same old shit.

Bernie represents new ideas and bold moves.

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
38. O'Malley will announce on the 30th. He's already rented 7500 sq ft of office in Baltimore
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:39 PM
May 2015

for his HQ.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. You betray your agenda by using the word 'scandal'.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:16 PM
May 2015

It's what you hope for, isn't it?

You could say "If Clinton decides not to run" and still have an interesting OP. I mean, what if she develops a health issue? What if she decides she really does want to spend more time doing something else?

It's a long time until the Primary so anything is possible.
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global1

(25,251 posts)
11. Sorry But There Is No Agenda Here On My Part.....
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:33 PM
May 2015

I was asking an honest question cause this a.m. I heard that the State Dept won't release her e-mails until January. It was a what if question because I like to be prepared for all circumstances. Yes - you are right - she may develop a health issue or want to be a Grandma more than President - anything can happen. The question still stands - who would the Dems back should she drop out for any reason?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. The email stuff isn't much of a 'scandal' IMO, but sorry if I presumed too much.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:09 PM
May 2015

17 months until the election. I don't even think we should be worrying this much about who will be President in 2017 until, oh, let's say the start of 2016.

We're gonna wear ourselves out.
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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
6. Good post.We now learn Hill's emails won't be disclosed until Jan. Just in time for a shit show
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:17 PM
May 2015

we don't have the money to defend. It will, be all defense. Bad strategy from the get go. That is why I support Bernie Sanders, who's record is all about us, and why I see Hillary as a flawed candidate. Defense, defense, defense. It is what it is.....

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. If Hillary dropped out you mean?
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:19 PM
May 2015

I have no idea but not likely Sanders.

Someone else would have to join the race.

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
19. Then you are not a true Democrat. You are part of the problem, justin.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:04 PM
May 2015

If you reject Bernie outright before anything has started, then you have a serious problem with the current electorate.

Bernie will break through, and will win, resoundingly - it's about the 1% vs 99%. It's no longer about Democrat vs Republican.

It's about INCOME INEQUALITY - why do you insist on continuing to enrich the 1% at the expense of people like me?

 

eloydude

(376 posts)
22. I'm not interested in baiting you. I'm trying to understand why you insist on stubbornly supporting
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:09 PM
May 2015

Hillary Clinton? She does not represent anyone. She represents the 1%. If you think you are a part of the 1%, then good luck, my friend. I want you to sit down, listen to Bernie, and see if he truly represents your interests. If not, then again, good luck.

If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, I'll just give her my vote. She earns nothing else from me - she can pay me to vote for her if she wants to "excite" me.

She's about as exciting as watching paint dry.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
8. Benghazi nor any other rightwing manufactured hysteria is going to cause Hillary
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:20 PM
May 2015

supporters to change their vote.

Also, despite the banners I'm currently flying, I will support Hillary if she is our nominee.

But, to hypothetically answer your question, it looks to me like Sen. Warren is poised to take over if Hill gets scandalized out of the race. I still think the only reason she's not jumping in to challenge Hillary is because A) she supports Hillary, and 2) she believes it would be futile and a waste of funds and resources that could be directed to Hillary's effort.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
9. Remember, the "Dems" don't want anyone rocking the corporate boat either.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

So the party would certainly not back Sanders. In fact, they'd certainly rather have the Republican win than he.

No. They'd use someone other than Sanders.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
10. They aren't the only two people in the race
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:32 PM
May 2015

And per Senator Sanders (read this at DU yesterday) he has not formally declared yet.

We still have Webb and O'Malley to announce. I believe O'Malley is targeted for May 30th.

When those two get in the race - it's going to get very interesting.

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
43. I know from experience around here that Sanders supporters have to grow a thicker skin.
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:48 PM
May 2015

They simply aren't going to be able to ban Sanders opponents out of existence at DU. If that worked, many of us wouldn't be here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. The party would rally around Joe Biden and I suspect the president would get actively involved...
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:37 PM
May 2015

That being said HRC is the most tenacious, the most persistent, the most battle hardened, the most looking forward to a good fight person, I have ever seen in public life.

It would take an "act of God" to deter her from her quest so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
14. They will push for a moderate.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

Anything to avoid rocking the establishment

Though Sanders really isn't a threat to them--he could easily end up being their best friend.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. I would think the Democrats would push someone who both illustrates the party platform and is
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
May 2015

I would think the Democrats would push someone who both illustrates the party platform and is electable. I'd guess that if either condition is not met by a candidate, that candidate would not have the support.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
16. I would have to think...
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
May 2015

...that the Republicans would think Bernie would be an easy mark as a "socialist"? However, the old saying about "be careful what you wish for" comes to mind. Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come, regardless of name-calling and labeling, in my opinion.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. I would want another Dem to run against Bernie.
Tue May 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
May 2015

It gives him the opportunity to put his ideas forward that he wouldn't have if he becomes the anointed candidate. Don't worry though. Corporate Democrats will never let him go unchallenged.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
25. Knocked off by "scandal?" As opposed to what?
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:18 PM
May 2015

Getting knocked off by winning fewer primary contests? It wouldn't be the first time for her.


rocktivity

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. Except this time she has a fifty point lead to play with...
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:29 PM
May 2015

Except this time she has a fifty point lead to play with...



DemocratSinceBirthativity

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
36. Should Hillary decide not to run
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:32 PM
May 2015

I be Elizabeth Warren will step in. She clearly refrains
from doing so now, but in that weird case the
equation could change.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
37. Hillary has already announced that she will be seeking the Democratic nomination.
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:34 PM
May 2015

Right wing attacks aren't going to force her to drop out.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
39. The only thing that would stop her is an "act of God."
Tue May 19, 2015, 03:45 PM
May 2015

She is the most persistent person I have ever seen in my life.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
45. I've read these words so many times before
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:53 PM
May 2015

I say fuck that noise.

Oh I don't do the God thingy. I'm a proud, half assed intelligent, NON-Religious person.
When I die it will be no different than the bug that hit my windshield the last time I was driving.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
44. Its not going to matter
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

as the whole country will and ARE going to get behind Bernie. Bernie Sanders will be our next POTUS. Mark my word on that. I'm here in reddest of the red Oklahoma and I'm seeing bernie being listed too like no other politician has since maybe Jfk

We're tire of politics as its been the last 50 years or so and Bernie Sanders is a breath of fresh air to us. Again Bernie Sanders is our next President. You can take that to the bank.

The press and Hillary supporters are trying to get him to engage in a food fight with Hillary but he's not biting, its not his style. He's a Smart Man and again he will be our next President

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
49. Yes, of course... most dems would fall in love with Bernie too... I think we have best of both
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:29 PM
May 2015

... to choose from

I'm not going to demonize Hillary

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
50. If Hillary dropped out I suspect Elizabeth Warren would jump in.
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:55 PM
May 2015

And possibly several others because it would be wide open.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
51. Hypothetically, if pigs sprouted wings and began flying...
Tue May 19, 2015, 06:59 PM
May 2015

we'd all start carrying super strong umbrellas.

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