Media (and Police) Double Standard On Wide Display In Waco

[KeepItReal]

There was a shooting in Waco, Texas yesterday. When the smoke cleared, nine people were dead, another 18 or so injured, 100 weapons recovered, and many arrests were made.

Calling it a shooting is far too mild. It was a shootout, with no regard for the safety of innocent bystanders.

The brawl began at a restaurant in a mall in Waco, a place where people go with their families on Sundays. It escalated from chains and knives to guns. I can't even believe I typed that, because I've never had to type any such thing about Ferguson or Baltimore. Only Waco.

But this is Waco, and the so-called "biker gangs" are a bunch of white dudes on Harleys, so the media is treating them with the kid gloves they do not deserve.

Behold the true thugs:

Check out the cell phones and smokes while they wait for the cops to process them. No rides in the paddy wagon for them. Just sit on the curb and wait until nice Mr. Policeman has a moment to process you.

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[JustAnotherGen]

1. I was watching Chris Hayes

There was a reporter on from Dallas who stated there were 170 defendants! :jawdrop: The family members of the injured were placed in a separate waiting room for their "safety". It does appear the criminals are getting special treatment when they are known meth, blow, and heroin dealers.

[sweetloukillbot]

5. Heard on NPR they are being charged with organized crime

1 mil bond apiece.

[Blue_Adept]

2. It's a riot! It's a brawl! It's a melee!

It's a lot of people trying to make it an agenda driven event as opposed to dealing with it as it actually is!

[bravenak]

3. I don't see everybody calling them thugs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026596249

[NaturalHigh]

6. I did, if that's any comfort to you.

[bravenak]

7. My bad. I was talking about the reporters on Tv.

I was hoping to see them screaming invectives and disparaging the White Community but I didn't see it.
I'm still hoping they will at least get all hot and bothered calling them thugs and questioning their upbringing now that the rumors about them calling for a war on Cops has been revealed.

[NaturalHigh]

9. I don't think they were all white.

I'm pretty sure some of them I saw on the news were Hispanic.

[bravenak]

12. Many hispanics identify as white.

I am one who identifies as black. Marco Rubio is a white hispanic and so is ted cruz. There are many types of hispanics ranging from very black or darker skinned (many who id as black), to native american and mestizo, to islanders who can be dark skinned but still id as white, and very white hispanics. I check all my boxes, black, white, NA, and then the hispanic ethnicty option. There is also a non hispanic option. Hispanic is not always a racial thing, it is more of an ethnicity thing and shared cultures and language.
I'll wait to see how they identify.

[Frank Cannon]

23. Ashleigh Banfield called them 'thugs'.

But she's Canadian, so maybe she don't know no better.

[cwydro]

36. I heard them called thugs

all over my local radio the past few days.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. The op is really about the media and police

You can't influence the average low information American - or inflict pain on the population. . You aren't the problem - and you see these crooks for what they are.

[Agnosticsherbet]

4. In military terms, this was a fire fight.

[Fred Sanders]

8. Media blaming...the eatery?? Holy high deflection, Batmedia, how about blaming the avowed gangs of criminals???

And if these were not white M/C gangs, the response would have been apoleptic, police and media.

[NotoriousRBG]

10. They ran out of handcuffs so they had officers stand guard over the detainees.

170 arrests were made. It was a logistical feat to transport, book, and process all of them.

[Whiskeytide]

32. I think that's part of the explanation...

... for why they were sitting around not looking like they were in custody. I don't think Waco LE had anywhere near the man power and logistical support to arrest and process 170 guys from one crime scene. I heard they corralled them as best they could, deployed snipers to try and watch them and also to protect the investigators who were trying to process the scene.

What a nightmare. Smokes and phones probably should have been confiscated, but I do have some understanding of what a nearly impossible situation the cops found themselves in.

[WestSideStory]

11. How exactly do you treat this in print?

I don't think any reader of the news is under the illusion what happened in Waco wasn't seriously fucked up.

[Historic NY]

13. I'm under the impression some think these are weekend harley riders...

that work 9-5 jobs during the week.

[JustAnotherGen]

16. ITA

They aren't - you put on that patch - that's a lifestyle.

[Rockyj]

14. From Ferguson...

to Occupy protestors if this happened no one would be alive.

[99Forever]

15. Uh huh...

....having your actions called a gang war is such positive thing. Just SCREAMS "privilege."

[JustAnotherGen]

18. Gang war isn't enough

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I'd like to know about the upbringing of each of these individuals and what we can do in the mostly white and some Hispanics communities to prevent young men from getting involved in this.

I had a retired "High ranking" Pagan at my wedding - very nice man. Now. But Doc doesn't gild lillies about what he was. My husband has rode with him for more than a decade. There's on average a 20 year age difference between him and the guys he rides with. He had Pagans try to recruit him years ago - then he had to say -

"My father will kill me if he finds out I'm in a mafia!" His paternal grandfather was Ndrengheta in Italy. This isn't Southern backwoods Italy early 1900's - they had options other than this. His grandfather made sure his sons and grandchildren had options other than organized crime.

Not one of them could learn a craft or a trade and avoid this life?

I say the exact same thing when we have a take down in NJ and NYC of organized crime - and there have been quite a few in my nine years living in NJ.

[99Forever]

19. Sorry some people won't speak exactly as you demand.

Let me know when you get that goal accomplished.

[JustAnotherGen]

20. It's not about 'speaking' or 'writing'

It's about - well -

About calling them out for what they are.

They are part of a vast criminal empire and instead of just keeping it amongst themselves they brought it out in broad daylight in a public venue.

This is the worst kind of Mafia there is.

I'm sorry if that is going to make people grab the smelling salts - but it is what it is.

If they weren't such criminal dirt bags devoid of basic common decency and respect for themselves and others this never would have happened.

I mean - I feel horrible that 9 people died - but they kind of brought it on themselves by being organized crime criminals.

You do see that when one is a criminal getting shot and stabbed to death is a hazard of one's line of work don't you?

[99Forever]

24. I have no idea what you are on about.

I've known what 1%ers (the biker kind) are and what they do for decades.

Smelling salts? Really?



I'm still waiting to hear what is positive about a gang war.

[JustAnotherGen]

26. I'm still waiting to hear what's positive about a gang war too!

I'm on about -

If this had been 10 black teenage girls in a Brooklyn McDonalds - there would be (even at DU) these big philosophical discussion about thug life, gang culture, etc. etc. The break down of the African American family - the internal failures of the community.

You must have missed that?

You are VERY fortunate that you can't see the double standard.

Me - I'm scratching my head here . . . How is it my mom has a black son and black daughter (she's white - our dad was black) and we managed to not end up in this thug life that these biker gangs are in?

What's the key - can white America ask her - why her kids amounted to something but not one single one of those 170 criminals could manage to pull themselves up by their boot straps and do something - anything of value?


Perhaps grand discussions of how the 1% are evil blood sucking vampires are what you should stick to at DU? IF you can't see how the media treats black 'thugs' differently than white 'thugs' - I f you can't see those criminals getting white glove treatment at the scene - if you can't see how the politicians are all wimping out and not making this a wedge issue . . .

It's simply because you don't want to. <--- I mean no disrespect - but maybe discussions of this nature are not within your scope of experience? Your life experience?

What I'm really waiting for however - I'm waiting for for Rand Paul and his snotty little sniveling ass to pop off about these guys upbringing.

I want to see Fox News go after these guys who are now threatening retaliation against the police down there.


It won't happen. 9 people dead - and not one single one is getting blamed for their own death like they do when someone has a little color . . .

[99Forever]

27. Have fun with that.

Just listened to the police chief say, it was the most violent crime scene he had ever seen. Not quite sure where that fits into your agenda of making it racial.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. That was the agenda of the op -

The Double Standard of the Media and the Police.

You are definitely a white male who has never experience prejudice. My husband (white male) has a great deal since meeting and marrying me.

This is like - simple - to him.

It's hard when you get to of a certain age and haven't experienced it to really understand the op.

Now YOU - you have fun with that. Safe in the knowledge if you are murdered no one will ever tear apart your character, your family, bring up that pack of bubble gum you lifted from a friend when you were five.

Why would you ever come into a thread on a topic that was very clearly about the media and police bias -

When you seem so certain that those biases don't exist.

You don't have to like it - but the OP is right and so am I. There is a huge difference in how Tamir Rice was treated a bunch of lowlife dirt bags are getting treated.

Shit - they even got taken to the hospital and given a fighting chance. Tamir - just left to rot and die.

[99Forever]

34. Well since you clearly know more about my life and experiences than I do...

....further input from me isn't required.

Have a lovely day. Bless your heart.

[JustAnotherGen]

35. My daddy was a 'Bama man

Bless your little one too!

[JustAnotherGen]

21. What could we do for young white men and hispanic men

That would change their course in life and prevent them from going down this path?

Was it a failure of the community?

Did their mother's suck?

Were their father's not present in their lives?

Was it a cycle of poverty and taking advantage of public assistance?

Did they not know they have options?

This is a serious issue for the white community that needs to be addressed.

[Coventina]

29. I'm hearing the same "WHOOOOSHHHHHHH....." (over people's heads) as I did in my thread.

I'm running out of ideas on how to get people to see.....

All I keep getting is "it's not a WHITE gang if even ONE of them isn't white!!!!!!!"

Apparently, it's some kind of new "one drop rule" that works the other direction....

[JustAnotherGen]

30. Yep - it is but it's not the individual per se

I think some folks just live in a bubble where these things never impact them - or they benefit from the 'system' so they don't WANT to see the bigger picture.

Maybe - Because it's the only thing they've got? Ya know? If you are poor struggling white guy - you've got the 'white' and so having that boot on someone else's neck makes them feel better? I don't know - just trying to figure out why they can't see it WITHOUT placing blame on the individual. It's societal - it's not their fault. They are just trying to survive.

[LanternWaste]

38. I think it's less an accidental whoosh, and more a purposeful flush.

I think it's less an accidental whoosh, and more a purposeful flush. It can be rather difficult to discern that six of one is equal to half a dozen of the other if doing so invalidates a pre-existing bias.



(But we may finally rest easily in the knowledge that should gang violence ever erupt again, all that is required to deny any racial or social aspect is simply to point out the one white fella in any given group, as per the implicit instructions from our under-educated friends)

[LanternWaste]

37. As does the collective of white leaders decrying this, the fingers pointing to socio-indictment...

'Just SCREAMS "privilege..."'

As do the white social leaders decrying this, the fingers of a vast amount of editorials pointing to socio-indictment on a collective white culture as such, the media implying a consistent absence of white fathers from their children's lives in that culture, and repeatedly calling them savages and vandals.

Bias often prevents us from seeing what to others, is absurdly obvious. Privilege, indeed.

[Frank Cannon]

22. B-b-but they're just good old boys

Never meanin' no harm.
Beats all you ever saw,
Been in trouble with the law
Since the day they was born.

Straightnin' the curves,
Flatnin' the hills.
Someday the bullets might get 'em
But the law never will!

[JustAnotherGen]

31. With all due respect - my first crush was a Duke

Bo and Luke Duke would never be involved in something like this! Uncle Jessie would tear their asses up over that!

[1939]

25. Waco isn't a big city

Between state, county, and local they didn't have much manpower. The perps weren't resisting arrest and were content to sit calmly and wait for a bus to take them to jail. They didn't have enough officers to take them down one by one and cuff them. The cops have enough "control" of the situation and don't need to go further.The one megabuck bond shows their crimes are being taken seriously.

[Sobax]

33. +1