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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:11 AM May 2015

Rename the T.P.P. "Obamatrade"

I'm actually fairly ambivalent to the TPP, but I know it is vehemently opposed by many here, so I'm pulling a link to this very short diary from DailyKos with the title I presented on this OP:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/11/1384108/-Rename-the-T-P-P-Obamatrade

It was posted somewhat tongue in cheek, but the diarist has something here.

If you rebrand the TPP as "Obamatrade", it will crash down to defeat easily. The Democrats mostly oppose it and if the teabaggers started screaming about "Obamatrade", there would never be enough votes to pass TPA or the TPP.

Just a thought for an actual path to defeating the agreement for those opposed.

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tridim

(45,358 posts)
2. That'll show that horrible muslin Obama a thing or two!!!11
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:27 AM
May 2015

Does Kos want a Republican trade deal?

This "Obamatrade" idea is a solution I'd expect to come from a child.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
7. The Republicans are content with the TPP that detractors are describing.
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

Not the actual TPP agreement, which doesn't yet exist.

theaocp

(4,244 posts)
12. Out of pure curiosity,
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:44 AM
May 2015

how would you feel if the agreement did exist and the Republicans were still in favor of it? Would you defer more to the blind squirrel line of thought?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
15. I don't intend to give the Republicanas the benefit of worst-case-scenerio hypotheticals
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:54 AM
May 2015

Why? Because fuck the Republicans, I'm not doing their dirty work for them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. LOL ...
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:42 AM
May 2015

But I must note for accuracy: DUer Pampago has been posting polling data indicating that the Democratic base supports both the TPP and Fast Track ... while our Democratic REPRESENTATIVES (you how ... the folks that DU takes great pleasure in lambasting as out of touch with the Democratic base and as having sold out to corporate interests) vehemently oppose them.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. The far-right started calling it Obamatrade long ago. In fact, there is an Obamatrade.com
Tue May 12, 2015, 08:56 AM
May 2015

run by the right and full of quotes from right-wing politicians, if anyone is interested in their take.

I'm not sure who the author of the Dkos post is but they did not do much research before posting it.

More Republicans than Democrats currently support the treaty ...

In congress, Yes, but not among folks in the respective bases.

... start calling it "Obamatrade" with a message tailored to conservatives:

"If you liked Obamacare, you'll love Obamatrade:
this secretive pact will send millions of American jobs overseas
and surrender American sovereignty to the rulings of Unelected Judges."

It's too late to start calling it that: http://obamatrade.com/ And it is definitely already tailored to conservatives.

It would be a headline grabber if Sen. Bernie Sanders starting referring to the TPP as "Obamatrade."

I doubt very seriously that Sanders would start using a term invented by the tea party faction of the republican party. Pandering to the right in that manner is not his style.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
9. This rebranding is an excellent idea, despite attempts to logically dismiss it. Teabaggers and
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:35 AM
May 2015

logic have never met each other. So when it comes to teabaggers logic is irrelevant. The strategy is all about their primal hatred for the President.

Excellent idea.

TBF

(32,086 posts)
10. lol - I think the billionaires are smarter
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:37 AM
May 2015

than that & they are the ones who want this. But you did make me laugh.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
13. We had barely enough of a majority to pass it.
Tue May 12, 2015, 10:49 AM
May 2015

Now, it's the Republicans that want TPP. If we get their teabagger base pissed off about it, they'll be too scared of losing their jobs going into an election year.

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