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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsonly 23% of ENTIRE West not in drought
Doesn't even cover Texas or the plains states.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/HistoricDrought?src=hash
snooper2
(30,151 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)I don't think the long-term outlook for California is very good.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Long term future for Cal. in terms of livability has not been very good for a long time.
The continued over priced housing market drove a lot of people out, and is one reason we did not even think of retiring there.
Now I have another reason to be glad I moved back to Mayberry in the South.
The weather changes I am seeing down here are not as drastic.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)I've been here 51 years. No place else to go.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,401 posts)I do wish some more Dem Californians would move to NC so we could get rid of the Repubs
who took over the state in 2012.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)in drought. Water wars starting even between neighbors on our little irrigation ditch.
Bleak outlook. Wildfires here - and hellish smoke - pretty much every year.
OTOH, I don't think there's anywhere to escape the coming changes ...
Hunkering down.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)One of my plans was to retire in E. Washington.around Wenatchee, which in fact my brother has done.
And I fell in love with the Methow Valley decades ago.
But, these old bones like sun, plus the prices are sky high in Wash, still.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)way TOO sunny! I read in our newspaper yesterday only 6 inches of rain here last year. Typical, but getting more extreme.
I live near / work in Wenatchee. And yes, the Methow is unbelievably beautiful, as is where I live, just south of Lake Chelan. You should have bought in back then!
You know the largest wildfire ever in WA was in the Methow last year. 350 homes lost.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)My Dad was a logger, I grew up in the Olympic National Forest area...can you believe how cool THAT was?
and we had to jump in the car and flee the burning woods.
Makes an impression on a kid.
I was saddened to read about the Methow fire.
Lots of great memories of my years on both sides of the Cascades.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Hadn't heard of that. When was it? Must have been the beginning of the warming, given how wet it historically has been there.
You live in the south now, dixiegrrrrl?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)1951, so i was 6.
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cmpweb/exhibits/forksfire/
I was also lucky enuff ( eeeeek) to be in the famous 1949 earthquake, which was 7.2.
biggest quake in the area till 2002.
I was outside in the yard when it hit, my Mom was frozen in the doorway of the house, screaming.
Made a hell of an impression on me.
I moved down south quite some years ago, and lost my house in a hurricane that came all the way inland to hit it.
Missed an even bigger one that hit this town in 2004, tho. Whew.
Then there was that volcano that blew..........
good times, good times....
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)for the earthquake? Where was that based? My husband (born 1955) live in WA during AK earthquake - I think in '62?
Volcano - I lived here in Wenatchee area. I assume you refer to St. Helens. Crazy. Did you?
You need to make a journal!! I might not want to live too close to you.
I hope you have a new home? We lost ours in a wildfire here in '94!
Yes - exciting times!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)The ground shook for about 30 seconds and was felt over a 230,000-square-mile area. The earthquake affected all of Washington state, northwest Oregon and south along its coast to Cape Blanco, southwest British Columbia, north Idaho panhandle, and even northwest Montana. The quake's epicenter was located at 47 degrees 06 00" North Latitude 122 degrees 42 00" West Longitude.
Chimneys Topple Off Roofs
The most damage occurred from Seattle to Chehalis, located about 80 miles south of Seattle. Forty percent of Chehalis' business buildings and houses were damaged including 1,351 chimneys. It was estimated that 10,000 chimneys in Western Washington required repair. Eight buildings at the State Capital in Olympia were damaged. A large sandy spit jutting into Puget Sound north of Olympia disappeared. In Portland, the earthquake caused rockslides and cracks to building walls. Chimneys toppled off roofs and merchandise fell off shelves.
Damage in King County
Earthquake damage in King County communities varied significantly. The extent of an earthquake's ground shaking and damage varies depending on distance from epicenter, bedrock geology, type of ground cover, type of building and structure. A system was devised to document intensity of earthquake and amount of damage. It established 12 levels of ground shaking, from violent shaking causing total destruction (XII) to shaking barely felt by a very few (I). The system is called the Modified Mercalli Intensity Scale. Following is a list of the summary of damage in King County towns, grouped by level of damage and ground shaking from strongest to weakest.
Mercalli Intensity Level VIII
In King County, the quake's strongest ground shaking was in Auburn, Richmond Beach, and in parts of Seattle. Damage was considerable to well-built structures and extensive to poorly built ones. Some buildings collapsed. Chimneys, factory stacks, columns, and monuments fell. Heavy furniture overturned. People had difficulty driving.
Cool site:
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?displaypage=output.cfm&file_id=2063
Any place in Puget Sound felt that quake.
I was near Bremerton at the time.
And was safely in Seattle when St. Helens blew. We were told that it would blow ash up our way, so I went out and duck taped plastic over my VW intake vents.
But it blew over to Yakima instead.
From the hills of Seattle, you could see the top 1/3 of the mountain blow off.
As the Chinese say...may you live in interesting times........
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Olympia @ 2000?
We had ash right to the edge of my town from St. Helens, 1980. My husband (then "fiancee" was climbing Mt. McKinley in AK. His last call to me before 3 weeks of climbing, I told him about the eruption. He was up there all that time not knowing what, or if, he would find when he got home!!
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)1949.
Interesting indeed!
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Seattle to AL????
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Last edited Fri May 8, 2015, 07:19 PM - Edit history (1)
There was a recession in 1980's.
But people were hiring down here, and I was able to make a geographic change thru a series of fortunate co-incidences.
This place grew on me, I have come to feel at home here, and have ZERO intention of leaving it again.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)of leaving? Never been to AL. Not really interested...??
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Zero intention of leaving.
For many decades the glory of Washington State was a secret from the rest of the country.
Now Alabama is..actually, a lot of the 4 middle Southern states.
low population, the 4 biggest cities have about 250 K people each and the rest is rural, spread out , lots and lots of green trees and rivers, plus it has 4 different climate zones. Fall in the South is glorious...lots of sun, nice temps, lovely colors.
Plus very inexpensive housing compared to the West and east Coast, and people over 65, or disabled, pay no property taxes on their primary house and land.
You can sight see all sorts of amazing things, or be within a decent drive of Memphis or "Hotlanta" or other neat places, or just meander around your own lil town, as I do.
Big secret about the South..lots of really smart progressive people live and work here, we just hide under the Gomer Pyle stereotype.
Shhhhhhhhhhh.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)your secret's safe with me!
I fear the heat and humidity would kill me! 😉
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Thanks!
shanti
(21,675 posts)in the worst of it too... it did rain today up here in norcal, but hardly enough.
it looks like the only wet area is coastal washington, on the sound or the ocean. when/if i ever get my inheritance, it will be either oregon or washington for me.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)I don't need to tell you that when you consider Washington, best stay on the west side of the Cascades. We're in drought over here on the east side, as well.
shanti
(21,675 posts)dad was from ellensburg, east of the cascades, which is quite dry. i have lived in WA before, in the 70's, in olympia and tacoma, so i'm familiar with the rain
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)I'm north of E'burg, near Chelan. Fingers crossed for this summer ...
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I like that in a person....
TerrapinFlyer
(277 posts)Where is the majority of food grown?