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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:13 PM May 2015

When will a Sanders' Operative show up on DU?

I look forward to the day (soon?) when the Sanders campaign assigns one or more people to post on DU.

I wonder if they will come right out and state their intentions and who pays them? I, for one, will be happy if they are honest and open.

Let the debates begin!

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When will a Sanders' Operative show up on DU? (Original Post) RobertEarl May 2015 OP
There are hundreds of them here already. Me, not paid, more than happy to be working for sabrina 1 May 2015 #1
Organization? RobertEarl May 2015 #9
I don't think the campaign will need to pay anyone to post here Bjorn Against May 2015 #2
Have the Hillary operatives exposed themselves yet? tiredtoo May 2015 #3
I did awhile ago. KMOD May 2015 #5
If they want to reveal their identities, that's one thing... Ken Burch May 2015 #7
Hey now KMOD May 2015 #12
There's no such thing as "a Sanders operative" Ken Burch May 2015 #4
Easy fella RobertEarl May 2015 #10
But he doesn't need to pay anyone. As for organizing, there are already so many great grass roots sabrina 1 May 2015 #21
Yeah, but RobertEarl May 2015 #27
It's also a loaded term, though-implying something shady and perhaps illicit, to a lot of folks. Ken Burch May 2015 #24
You got that right RobertEarl May 2015 #28
Well, something like that may happen. Ken Burch May 2015 #39
Yeah. zappaman May 2015 #15
. ucrdem May 2015 #25
I don't know if Bernie would advocate "operatives," RoccoR5955 May 2015 #6
Operative is not a four letter word RobertEarl May 2015 #18
I wish I got paid for advocating for Bernie. He is the wisest politician in the game. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #8
You do get paid. House of Roberts May 2015 #11
Get thee behind me, uh, not shirley RobertEarl May 2015 #13
I'll give you the secret contact list. KMOD May 2015 #14
Hey, where's the secret list PM, I'm waiting..... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #16
Perfect response. KMOD May 2015 #22
... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #26
Bernie mania has settled on DU liberal N proud May 2015 #17
Ain't it great? RobertEarl May 2015 #19
LOL liberal N proud May 2015 #30
2/5 leave, I voted to leave, will PM results. nt ucrdem May 2015 #20
They are real liberals so it might be more obvious. nt Logical May 2015 #23
How to tell the difference between HRC Operatives (and any other operatives) and Sanders Operatives daredtowork May 2015 #29
Yes, I like it when posters are honest and open... SidDithers May 2015 #31
Please don't ever leave DU, sid RobertEarl May 2015 #32
Honest and open is something we all strive for, right?... SidDithers May 2015 #33
I never said that RobertEarl May 2015 #34
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #35
You keep kicking? RobertEarl May 2015 #37
And are you implying that a lot of us aren't? Ken Burch May 2015 #36
Might be overestimating the power of DU. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #38
I very much doubt his campaign is going to hire operatives to post here. His merrily May 2015 #40

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. There are hundreds of them here already. Me, not paid, more than happy to be working for
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:19 PM
May 2015

free for Bernie Sanders.

Operatives, no, supporters yes.

And if Bernie were to have operatives, I have a feeling he would want them to be open about it.

Also, I know he doesn't want those who support him to be angry or to personally attack the supporters of other candidates, he has stated that he is running to talk about issues.

That's what's important, to focus on issues and ignore the personal attacks etc that only distract from the issues.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. Organization?
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

I think if we did have someone from the campaigns in official capacity the operatives could learn a lot, and help our grassroots effort. I feel DU can play a huge role in the coming primaries and lawd knows we can all use a little help.

As for the attacks on other - our party candidates, I totally agree. It was fun in a weird way, but now the gloves are on. We will need a very unified party come November 2016, and the time to get that unity bottled up, so that it ages well, starts now.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
2. I don't think the campaign will need to pay anyone to post here
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:23 PM
May 2015

It is not like Bernie is lacking support at DU, why pay someone when you have so many who will gladly volunteer to post on his behalf?

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
3. Have the Hillary operatives exposed themselves yet?
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:25 PM
May 2015

I mostly lurk here but have not seen anyone from the Hillary camp exposed yet.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. If they want to reveal their identities, that's one thing...
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

But please don't ask HRC supporters to "expose themselves".

This is the interweb, after all-some of them actually would.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. There's no such thing as "a Sanders operative"
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:27 PM
May 2015

And Bernie generates such enthusiasm that he has no need to pay anyone to post on his behalf.

Is this thread intended to set up a "Nobody is a REAL Bernie Sanders supporter" meme?

Will you be arguing that his campaign is run from Pyongyang, or by Shiite handlers in Tehran?

And what "intentions" do you suspect Bernie Sanders supporters have? Are you the world's last believer in "The International Communist Conspiracy"?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Easy fella
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:35 PM
May 2015

The moniker for paid staff people who operate in the field is: Operative.
Hell, I wish I could be an Operative.

And it's pretty obvious you don't know me. So, easy fella. Don't let your lack of knowledge blind you too much.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. But he doesn't need to pay anyone. As for organizing, there are already so many great grass roots
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:50 PM
May 2015

groups who will gladly organize for him in different states. Plus if you want to work for him, you can sign up on his website.

So far, he has being doing great. Already raised $1.5 million in a day.

His usual donors, for his Senate campaigns have been mostly Unions and individuals.

I am sure they will be willing to help out also.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
27. Yeah, but
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:04 PM
May 2015

One person could handle a lot of social media, DU included.

And once they got to know DU, Bernie could actually respond to us in threads. How cool would that be?

Bernie will have many a paid staff person, and since WE are the new media, we could use a professional to help us. Surely, you don't wish the campaign to ignore us? We can play a huge role. DU has helped me tremendously in my political works. It could be better, and a professional is always helpful.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. It's also a loaded term, though-implying something shady and perhaps illicit, to a lot of folks.
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:56 PM
May 2015

There possibly could be Sanders staffers posting here, since there are a lot of Bernie supporters her and some may become paid staff.

And it's likely that if they have "intentions", then those intentions are simply to help their candidate-undoubtably, there are HRC staffers posting here as we speak. btw-In your view, is it in some way illegitimate for Bernie Sanders staffers to do that as well?

I guess I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
28. You got that right
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:11 PM
May 2015

You are not sure of my intention. That's ok.

I am used to using the term without it being loaded having worked with more than a few professionals (me as a volunteer) in campaigns. If there is a better term besides "Paid Staff Field Member of a Political Campaign" I'm all ears.

I seriously doubt there are any Hillary Operatives (PFSMPC) here on DU. Seriously doubt it.

I think a professional from the Sanders' campaign, representing in an official capacity the Sanders campaign, would be a great thing for DU and Bernie. Grayson posts here and that is kinda what lead to this thinking.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
39. Well, something like that may happen.
Sat May 2, 2015, 12:59 AM
May 2015

Why didn't you just say "will paid staffers from the Sanders campaign be posting here as official representatives of that campaign and their candidate"?

"Staffer" carries an entirely different, and far more neutral, connotation than "operative". Bernie's campaign will be shoestring and grassroots based...that kind of campaign wouldn't have anyone in it that could be fairly described as an "operative". The term "operative" implies a figure in a heavily-funded and cynical political machine-not a people's campaign of the sort Bernie will be carrying on.

The phrasing you used was inflammatory and provocative. I'll assume you didn't mean it that way, but you need to know why your choice of words could set people off in a way you didn't intend. That's what I'm now trying to communicate to you.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
6. I don't know if Bernie would advocate "operatives,"
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

but I DO know that many RepubliCONs have them here, in hiding, and getting paid for it!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
18. Operative is not a four letter word
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:45 PM
May 2015

Oh, operatives can be dirty, but it is a well known term in political campaigns used to describe "in the field" staff. I've met more than a few, in person.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Get thee behind me, uh, not shirley
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:37 PM
May 2015

I was here first!

I mean, c'mon, what a great job, right? To actually get paid for doing something so great??!!??

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
22. Perfect response.
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:52 PM
May 2015


You are going to be an excellent secret operative.

Now, shhhhhh

we're supposed to be secret, remember?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
29. How to tell the difference between HRC Operatives (and any other operatives) and Sanders Operatives
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:14 PM
May 2015

HRC Operatives seem to sadly be playing from some Operative playbook. Months before she announced, they were here trying to shape the discourse to make her seem inevitable. On the day she announced they were spamming DU with the Hillary hype. It is almost surreal how much they sound like astroturf even though this is a forum for Democrats, and they are promoting a Democrat candidate!!! There are just certain phrases that sound like political propaganda and manipulative marketing hooey.

Bernie has staked his entire political career on sounding genuine, and I doubt he will hire operatives that will mess that up now. If he does have paid employees that come post on DU they will probably identify themselves ("Hey, I'm from the Bernie Sanders campaign!&quot and embrace the love or they will blend in by seeking opinions rather than ramming advertising down our throats.

If Bernie hires a campaign manager that blows this, it will be a huge waste of long-earned good will capital.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
31. Yes, I like it when posters are honest and open...
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:25 PM
May 2015

How 'bout you, RobertEarl, do you like it when posters are honest and open?

Sid

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
33. Honest and open is something we all strive for, right?...
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:38 PM
May 2015

I'm glad we can both say that we've been completely honest and open with the other members of DU.

It feels good to be able to say you've been completely honest and open, doesn't it RobertEarl.

Sid

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
34. I never said that
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:43 PM
May 2015

I sure am not open and honest. For instance, I would never tell you who I really am. But if we have a paid staff person on DU, they should tell us who they are. Of course someone might use such personal information in weird ways and try to harm said person, don't you think?

Response to RobertEarl (Reply #34)

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
37. You keep kicking?
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:59 PM
May 2015

That's cool.

Yeah, if someone is paid to post here, they should be open and honest.

I don't get paid. It's all for free. And one can't really be free on DU without a great deal of danger, can one?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
36. And are you implying that a lot of us aren't?
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:53 PM
May 2015

What diabolical intentions to you believe people are hiding here?

If you've got something to say, just come out and say it, because no we DON'T "all know what (you're) talking about".

merrily

(45,251 posts)
40. I very much doubt his campaign is going to hire operatives to post here. His
Thu May 28, 2015, 12:47 AM
May 2015

campaign has to spend much more wisely than that.

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