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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen will a Sanders' Operative show up on DU?
I look forward to the day (soon?) when the Sanders campaign assigns one or more people to post on DU.
I wonder if they will come right out and state their intentions and who pays them? I, for one, will be happy if they are honest and open.
Let the debates begin!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)free for Bernie Sanders.
Operatives, no, supporters yes.
And if Bernie were to have operatives, I have a feeling he would want them to be open about it.
Also, I know he doesn't want those who support him to be angry or to personally attack the supporters of other candidates, he has stated that he is running to talk about issues.
That's what's important, to focus on issues and ignore the personal attacks etc that only distract from the issues.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I think if we did have someone from the campaigns in official capacity the operatives could learn a lot, and help our grassroots effort. I feel DU can play a huge role in the coming primaries and lawd knows we can all use a little help.
As for the attacks on other - our party candidates, I totally agree. It was fun in a weird way, but now the gloves are on. We will need a very unified party come November 2016, and the time to get that unity bottled up, so that it ages well, starts now.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)It is not like Bernie is lacking support at DU, why pay someone when you have so many who will gladly volunteer to post on his behalf?
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)I mostly lurk here but have not seen anyone from the Hillary camp exposed yet.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)But please don't ask HRC supporters to "expose themselves".
This is the interweb, after all-some of them actually would.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)And Bernie generates such enthusiasm that he has no need to pay anyone to post on his behalf.
Is this thread intended to set up a "Nobody is a REAL Bernie Sanders supporter" meme?
Will you be arguing that his campaign is run from Pyongyang, or by Shiite handlers in Tehran?
And what "intentions" do you suspect Bernie Sanders supporters have? Are you the world's last believer in "The International Communist Conspiracy"?
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)The moniker for paid staff people who operate in the field is: Operative.
Hell, I wish I could be an Operative.
And it's pretty obvious you don't know me. So, easy fella. Don't let your lack of knowledge blind you too much.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)groups who will gladly organize for him in different states. Plus if you want to work for him, you can sign up on his website.
So far, he has being doing great. Already raised $1.5 million in a day.
His usual donors, for his Senate campaigns have been mostly Unions and individuals.
I am sure they will be willing to help out also.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)One person could handle a lot of social media, DU included.
And once they got to know DU, Bernie could actually respond to us in threads. How cool would that be?
Bernie will have many a paid staff person, and since WE are the new media, we could use a professional to help us. Surely, you don't wish the campaign to ignore us? We can play a huge role. DU has helped me tremendously in my political works. It could be better, and a professional is always helpful.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)There possibly could be Sanders staffers posting here, since there are a lot of Bernie supporters her and some may become paid staff.
And it's likely that if they have "intentions", then those intentions are simply to help their candidate-undoubtably, there are HRC staffers posting here as we speak. btw-In your view, is it in some way illegitimate for Bernie Sanders staffers to do that as well?
I guess I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)You are not sure of my intention. That's ok.
I am used to using the term without it being loaded having worked with more than a few professionals (me as a volunteer) in campaigns. If there is a better term besides "Paid Staff Field Member of a Political Campaign" I'm all ears.
I seriously doubt there are any Hillary Operatives (PFSMPC) here on DU. Seriously doubt it.
I think a professional from the Sanders' campaign, representing in an official capacity the Sanders campaign, would be a great thing for DU and Bernie. Grayson posts here and that is kinda what lead to this thinking.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Why didn't you just say "will paid staffers from the Sanders campaign be posting here as official representatives of that campaign and their candidate"?
"Staffer" carries an entirely different, and far more neutral, connotation than "operative". Bernie's campaign will be shoestring and grassroots based...that kind of campaign wouldn't have anyone in it that could be fairly described as an "operative". The term "operative" implies a figure in a heavily-funded and cynical political machine-not a people's campaign of the sort Bernie will be carrying on.
The phrasing you used was inflammatory and provocative. I'll assume you didn't mean it that way, but you need to know why your choice of words could set people off in a way you didn't intend. That's what I'm now trying to communicate to you.
Easy there, fella.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)but I DO know that many RepubliCONs have them here, in hiding, and getting paid for it!
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Oh, operatives can be dirty, but it is a well known term in political campaigns used to describe "in the field" staff. I've met more than a few, in person.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)House of Roberts
(5,184 posts)You get integrity.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I was here first!
I mean, c'mon, what a great job, right? To actually get paid for doing something so great??!!??
KMOD
(7,906 posts)The pay is great!
Check your PM.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)You are going to be an excellent secret operative.
Now, shhhhhh
we're supposed to be secret, remember?
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)What was Hillary Hate has become Berniemania!
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Turned a negative into a huge positive!! Now that's real Change!
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)daredtowork
(3,732 posts)HRC Operatives seem to sadly be playing from some Operative playbook. Months before she announced, they were here trying to shape the discourse to make her seem inevitable. On the day she announced they were spamming DU with the Hillary hype. It is almost surreal how much they sound like astroturf even though this is a forum for Democrats, and they are promoting a Democrat candidate!!! There are just certain phrases that sound like political propaganda and manipulative marketing hooey.
Bernie has staked his entire political career on sounding genuine, and I doubt he will hire operatives that will mess that up now. If he does have paid employees that come post on DU they will probably identify themselves ("Hey, I'm from the Bernie Sanders campaign!" and embrace the love or they will blend in by seeking opinions rather than ramming advertising down our throats.
If Bernie hires a campaign manager that blows this, it will be a huge waste of long-earned good will capital.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)How 'bout you, RobertEarl, do you like it when posters are honest and open?
Sid
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)You are like my own personal net nanny. I'd miss you.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I'm glad we can both say that we've been completely honest and open with the other members of DU.
It feels good to be able to say you've been completely honest and open, doesn't it RobertEarl.
Sid
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I sure am not open and honest. For instance, I would never tell you who I really am. But if we have a paid staff person on DU, they should tell us who they are. Of course someone might use such personal information in weird ways and try to harm said person, don't you think?
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RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)That's cool.
Yeah, if someone is paid to post here, they should be open and honest.
I don't get paid. It's all for free. And one can't really be free on DU without a great deal of danger, can one?
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)What diabolical intentions to you believe people are hiding here?
If you've got something to say, just come out and say it, because no we DON'T "all know what (you're) talking about".
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)campaign has to spend much more wisely than that.