If The Prisoner In The Van Couldn't See Freddie And Only Heard Thrashing Around - How Do We Know....

[global1]

that there wasn't a cop in the other side of the van beating on Freddie? Just askin!!!

[underpants]

1. How did he know who it was?

[Jackpine Radical]

2. How do we know the cops/DA didn't cut a deal with that "witness?"

For some reason, jail inmates make some of the best possible witnesses in criminal cases involving other inmates. They see things nobody else sees. Their perceptual skills are so acute that they often even see things that haven't happened. Often they get shortened sentences or favorable treatment as the system seeks to reward them for their general usefulness.

[Robbins]

4. your absoletly right

very easy for police to get other prisoners to help sell their whitewashing.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. They've been doing that shit for generations,

most notably in the "Drug Wars."

I could tell you stories from my days as a forensic psychologist…

[Chathamization]

11. I've never understood why bribing witnesses like that is considered acceptable, or even legal. N/T

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Exactly. I'm curious what the "witness" was picked up for and where the current...

...charges fall in the range of what he potentially could have been charged with.

Note I don't blame the guy. He'd have to be worried what would happen to him if he didn't cooperate and telling the truth isn't going to make Gray any less dead or likely put much of a dent in the number of bad cops.

[TheNutcracker]

3. I believe the thrashing was due to what is called the 'nickel ride' from the cops.

Hands cuffed and a wild ride. throws you all over. Heads have been bashed, and necks injured. They know it's from the nickel ride!

[Oktober]

9. It'll depend how the statement reads....

If it was significant thumps and crashes during severe braking and sharp turns then it speaks to the nickel ride.

If it's regular systemic bangs from one area during a 'regular' drive then it speaks more to self harm.

[DetlefK]

14. I have read that the witness said in an earlier report that it was a quiet ride.

The ride was so quiet that he doesn't remember anything suspicious happening.
But the ride was so remarkable that he heard the other guy thumping against the walls.

[gwheezie]

5. wonder if the other prisoner was strapped in

This doesn't even make sense to claim this is even some kind of explanation.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. Absolutely correct.

But that large segment of the American public that answers to the general description of "assholes" will buy anything as long as it supports their pre-existing prejudices. I think this kind of story helps confuse the issue and muddle public opinion and is therefore invaluable to them.

[libdem4life]

7. The story is too ludicrous to debate. All the MSNBC hosts continually pointed that out.

And when do Police verify a prisoner's "testimony"? When it's coerced. This one, affidavit and all, is a lie.

[backscatter712]

8. Because as we all know, Those People are always hurting themselves.

How fucking gullible does the Baltimore PD think we are?

Oh, they have a witness? Did the DA cut a deal with him? Did the cops threaten him? Makes you wonder...

[Sunlei]

13. I now think the police knew they seriously injured Mr. Gray in the first take-down and tried to

cover their asses.
The police officer on his head and neck probably felt the neck crack.

[nc4bo]

15. I think so too. nt