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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:25 AM Apr 2015

For millenia, humans thought the sun moved about the Earth.

Recently, some people have been speculating that the actual situation is just the opposite.

Really, people--should we throw aside the wisdom of the ages in favor of some Polish agitators' cockamamie notions?

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For millenia, humans thought the sun moved about the Earth. (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 OP
Step away from the keyboard, sir, and no one will get hurt. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #1
LOL Good one Jackpine Radical Faux pas Apr 2015 #2
No. That nonsense is of the Devil, Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #10
He's a tool of the "Earth-around-the-Sun"-lobby. What a sell-out. DetlefK Apr 2015 #3
What are you, some Big Geo shill? NuclearDem Apr 2015 #9
By modern standards we would probably reject Copernicus: Ptolemy predicted things just as well Recursion Apr 2015 #4
Yes, I recall that history fairly well, but Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #8
Metaphorically speaking, the sun does revolve around the Earth malthaussen Apr 2015 #5
they accepted it pretty fast, actually MisterP Apr 2015 #6
stop having sex with white people snooper2 Apr 2015 #7

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
10. No. That nonsense is of the Devil,
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:05 PM
Apr 2015

who is forever trying to lure people off the edge so they will fall to Perdition.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. By modern standards we would probably reject Copernicus: Ptolemy predicted things just as well
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:51 AM
Apr 2015

Copernicus didn't offer a new testable prediction that could disprove Ptolemy's model; his just had greater aesthetic simplicity. It took until Kepler to actually get better matching of observations.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Yes, I recall that history fairly well, but
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

more people associate heliocentrism with Copernicus than with, say, Aristarchus.

And what Kepler did was to break with tradition & realize that things worked out better if you postulated elliptical orbits rather than perfect circles (a holdover from Medieval Christian Idealist philosophy). Kepler, of course, used the observations of Tycho Brahe for much of his work.

An interesting book on the early post-Copernican years was Arthur Koestler's The Sleepwalkers.

malthaussen

(17,213 posts)
5. Metaphorically speaking, the sun does revolve around the Earth
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:53 AM
Apr 2015

Or, to put a finer point on it, around humans. You just need a different perspective, Jackpine, stop thinking about foolish things like objective reality.

-- Mal

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. they accepted it pretty fast, actually
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:46 AM
Apr 2015

even Galilei got in trouble mostly because 1. he couldn't differentiate his system from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tychonic_system and 2. everyone involved was Italian

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