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Catherine Crump: The small and surprisingly dangerous detail the police track about you (Original Post) Skidmore Apr 2015 OP
Video: demmiblue Apr 2015 #1
Thanks. How did you do that? Skidmore Apr 2015 #2
You're wlcome! demmiblue Apr 2015 #3
Duh. I'll remember to do that next time. Skidmore Apr 2015 #4
What is it? Brickbat Apr 2015 #5
It is a video of a talk about Skidmore Apr 2015 #7
Detailed tracking information of all cars based on large numbers of mostly unoticed automated licens GoneFishin Apr 2015 #10
Thanks. I have neither time nor bandwidth to watch long videos. Brickbat Apr 2015 #12
Now DU does clickbait video links? If the point is worth making, post it. In words. nt Romulox Apr 2015 #6
Clickbait? Skidmore Apr 2015 #8
I think the point was that at least a short description of just what the 'small detail' was would be Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #9
Detailed tracking information of all cars using large numbers of mostly unoticed license plate GoneFishin Apr 2015 #11
That's on the OP in who I'm a bit disappointed Hutzpa Apr 2015 #13
Better than what malaise Apr 2015 #19
And the ineptness does surprises me too. nt Hutzpa Apr 2015 #21
K&R thank you Skidmore for posting this Ted Talk. snappyturtle Apr 2015 #14
Would that be the reason why I get so many unknown numbers Baitball Blogger Apr 2015 #15
No calling is required. jeff47 Apr 2015 #16
I think the thing that surprises me the most jeff47 Apr 2015 #17
Yeah, but in the past there was no automated equipment sucking up all the data... hunter Apr 2015 #20
It wasn't as easy, but they were still 100% trackable. jeff47 Apr 2015 #22
Retina Scanner That Can ID People From Their Rear-View Mirrors During Traffic Stops Tace Apr 2015 #18

demmiblue

(36,873 posts)
3. You're wlcome!
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

I just went to YouTube and typed in her name to see if the video was available in that format.

DU can only embed YouTube and Vimeo videos, iirc.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. It is a video of a talk about
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:10 AM
Apr 2015

how police track your location and the technology involved. Watch it if you want but I'm not reproducing the talk for anyone. The lady does the job well on her own.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
10. Detailed tracking information of all cars based on large numbers of mostly unoticed automated licens
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:16 AM
Apr 2015

plate scanners.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
8. Clickbait?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:11 AM
Apr 2015

Do you know what TED is? If you want to watch it do so. Some one helped embed the video after I said that I didn't know how.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
9. I think the point was that at least a short description of just what the 'small detail' was would be
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:14 AM
Apr 2015

a useful idea.

And, btw, maybe this should be over in the Video and Multimedia forum?

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
11. Detailed tracking information of all cars using large numbers of mostly unoticed license plate
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:17 AM
Apr 2015

scanners which permanently collect and store your whereabouts based on your car tags.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
14. K&R thank you Skidmore for posting this Ted Talk.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015

I got up on the right side of the bed this morning. Apparently, some here did not.

Baitball Blogger

(46,752 posts)
15. Would that be the reason why I get so many unknown numbers
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 10:39 AM
Apr 2015

called to my I-Phone? Do they have a way to track a call even when you don't pick up the line?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
16. No calling is required.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:07 AM
Apr 2015

Your phone contacts the cell towers to say "I'm Here!!" very frequently. That allows the phone company to send calls, texts, etc to your phone.

If your phone didn't do that, the company wouldn't know where to send the phone call.

This data is not private. An overly-broad 1979 SCOTUS decision declared this information to be a run-of-the-mill business record, making it legal for the government to access it without a warrant. And legal for your phone company to sell it to anyone who wants to pay for it.

The clickbait...er...subject at hand is about automated license plate readers. You've got a unique ID stamped on the outside of your car, and shockingly enough it is readable without a warrant. Just like you going to a street corner and shouting "Get your meth here! Buy meth from me! Great prices!" does not require a warrant to hear.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. I think the thing that surprises me the most
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:11 AM
Apr 2015

is the people that seem to believe a government-issued unique ID stamped on the outside of your car in large letters was somehow private.

hunter

(38,322 posts)
20. Yeah, but in the past there was no automated equipment sucking up all the data...
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

... and stashing it away in a giant easily searched database.

When I started driving states weren't even talking to one another or insurance companies about simple traffic tickets.

You could also cross the border into and out of Mexico without a license plate scan.

Law enforcement let a lot of petty stuff pass by simply because the system was not automated. They'd have to radio in a license plate number, the local police clerk would have to look the number up in a paper book which only included the worst out-of-state suspects and was outdated the moment it was delivered, and all that fuss was simply too much bother for minor traffic offenses, much less for tracking anyone.

I've always hated automobiles. The "freedom" they offer is an illusion. They trap people into an economic system that is becoming increasingly "papers please" fascist, and the worrisome aspect of this is that people seem to be unaware that the devices they supposedly own are quietly reporting their activities to unknown authorities and commercial interests.

The way our current cell phone system works is equally insidious.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. It wasn't as easy, but they were still 100% trackable.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

Lots of people seem to forget that constantly announcing your presence didn't make your presence private. It's just easier to hear now.

Tace

(6,800 posts)
18. Retina Scanner That Can ID People From Their Rear-View Mirrors During Traffic Stops
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015
http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/iris-scanner-identifies-a-person-40-feet-away-150410.htm

Iris Scanner Identifies a Person 40 Feet Away

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In the realm of law enforcement, iris recognition could be used to identify suspects at long range in various lighting conditions. The system can even be used to capture images through reflections in a mirror.

The CMU team recently posted a video successfully testing the system in a typical traffic stop scenario. Using the long-range iris scanner, the system was able to identify the driver of a vehicle by capturing an image of the eye via the side-view mirror. You can see the results below.

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