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I follow Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Facebook.
A few days ago she wrote this:
"I wish the State of Israel a sincere mazel tov on her 67th anniversary. The United States and Israel have shared a special bond since before Israels independence. Our shared histories of fighting for independence based on democratic values are just part of what makes this relationship strong and unshakable.
As the first Jewish woman elected to Congress from Florida, my support for Israel is a core part of my personal and professional life. As a member of the State and Foreign Operations Appropriations subcommittee, I will continue to advocate for the United States diplomatic and military commitments to Israel. In a hostile world and dangerous region, our nations must and will continue to have a strong and strategic relationship rooted in our core values of democracy, human rights and justice.
As we do each year, we commemorated Yom Hashoah with a special ceremony in the Capitol honoring victims and survivors of the Holocaust, reminding us of the vital role Israel plays for the Jewish community and for the world. Mazel tov again to the people of Israel on your Independence Day, and may we continue to go from strength to strength."
I went back to her page a few days later because I was interested in reading the comments. I sense that many rank-and-file Democrats disagree with their leaders on this issue. They tend the be more supportive of the Palestinians.
There were 19 comments including these:
There are no 'democratic values' in shelling unarmed people, including women and children. Way to not have a peaceful outcome. BS.
We are bankrolling criminals. We'll yet pay for our mistake.
I used to have great admiration for Debbie but her's, Charles Schumer's, and Joe Lieberman's, unabashed support of Israel is hardly unique and anything to be proud of. Do they love Israel or do they love the money Zionist supporters donate to their campaigns? If Israel is so great why don't they move there and serve Israel?....
I'm not one to be hostile towards other Democrats but I decided to comment.
I shared this video clip of Shlomo Ben Ami. This is him saying there was atrocities and massacres committed against the Palestinians and they were evicted and this caused the refuge problem.
She deleted my comment twice and blocked me from posting on her page.
I'm not following her anymore on Facebook
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Some Democrats need to be reminded of that fact.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)She's a shill and very bad for the party. Thanks for this! Why do you think she deleted you? This thread?
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)Watch the first 5 minutes of this video clip. I know this is difficult to hear but this is what happened. Those other comments had more animosity in my opinion.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)this is very immature behavior on her part. She is responsible for loosing elections and seats..she pushes forward shills and neocon candidates...people that no one wanted to vote for. We need to clean house big time!
doxyluv13
(247 posts)I hate watching her on tv defending our side.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)the DNC, and I'd also like to see a change in leadership to someone who is more liberal and progressive.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)RUN BERNIE, RUN!
malaise
(269,157 posts)Bernie supported Israel during that slaughter of Palestinians last year
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Just because the Palestinians are the underdogs it doesn't prove their case any differently than if they weren't.
This dispute has been going on for my entire life, and I'm 51 years old.
So Debbie is on team Israel. Team Israel or team Palestine isn't a litmus test for me.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)the New England Patriots going up against Pee Wee High School and claiming they were underdogs after crushing them 500 to 0 and doing a happy dance to celebrate their fortunate victory.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)It obviously makes Israel more dangerous, but it doesn't make either Israel's or Palestine's claims any more or less valid.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)on who has more or less a valid claim in the conflict. For that matter, so would the International Committee of the Red Cross, The International Court of Justice and The High Contracting Parties to he Geneva Accords. They all concur that the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention apply to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Their conclusion is that the occupation is illegal under international law and that the Israelis should get their boot off the necks of these people, round up their invading "settlers" and go home.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)it sure as hell is settled. If not, then what were the Nuremberg trials and the accords that followed all about?
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Israel and Palestine both claim the right of their people to return to land they lived on prior to 1948.
Both nations claim the right to defend themselves.
I'm glad to hear all of that is sorted out now.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)of return after 70 AD is not exactly the same of claiming one since 1948. In fact it is ridiculous.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I'm talking about land that both Jews and Palestinians lived on in the 20ty century before 1948. Jews had homes, farms, and businesses in the West Bank and Palestinians had homes, farms, and businesses in Israel.
I'm certainly not talking about going back to 70 AD, but you must go back to the British Mandate and the Ottoman years immediately prior to that. All of the formal and legitimate modern claims are based on that time period and the following years.
Good luck unravelling all of it. Oh, that's right -- it's settled.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)and a look at the changed map since 1948 makes that obvious. Israel keeps getting bigger and Palestine gets smaller and smaller. The world has pretty much accepted the Jewish right of return and the fact that all the territory annexed by Israel between 1947 and 1966 will remain Israeli. Now it demands only that Israel return the Palestinian land it has seized since 1967, remove its occupation forces and settlements and grant the same right of return to Palestinians that Israelis demand for themselves. If you look beyond the hasbara and sheer hypocrisy of the Israeli argument, it is not difficult to grasp Palestinian demands.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)but I think it's high time to recognize that it's over. I think the best thing the Palestinians could do is to sue for peace on any terms they can get. Israel can't be beaten and they're not going to negotiate. 2,000 people, maybe more, were killed in the last operation in Gaza. Proportionally, that's equivalent to 350,000 American deaths, or 7 Vietnam Wars. It's estimated that it would take 20 years, if ever, to repair the property damage. Israel can do that with relatively little effort.
There is a growing recognition that two-state is dead. The sooner everyone recognizes it, the sooner everyone can maybe move on to the next chapter.
This is a fight the Palestinians can't win.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)They can't win. They never could. The two state solution is dead because it never was. However, we're talking about millions of Arabs who aren't going anywhere. That they should live permanently in ghettos as occupied people, beat down daily and periodically slaughtered by people who tout their religious morality is insufferable. The solution is to reject the "Israel is a Jewish state" meme and to make it a single, multi-ethnic state that includes all Palestinians in the occupied territories, and those who are already Israeli citizens as equal, first class citizens under the law. I think the Palestinians might go for something like that, but I doubt the Israelis would. Maybe I'm wrong about the Israelis. I hope so.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)which was published recently
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)DWS...wasn't she the one who led the Democrats to oblivion in the last election cycle?...Yep...
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)She simply follows the money. It's the path of least resistance.
Unfortunately, money is what most of us have less and less of every year. Largely because of people like DWS.
Our money is now in the hands of fewer people than any time in history.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)defunding their supporters works as well as their other program "defunding consumers"
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)I'd take her over my Rep (Diaz-Balart) any day.
Anyway, take a look at a map of her district (FL 23rd). It runs up the coast from South Beach to Ft. Lauderdale and stretches west to SW Broward County and the City of Weston. It's heavily Democratic, kinda liberal, and has a high number of Jewish voters. It stands to reason that a Representative from this district would be very pro-Israel. And at least she's sincere in her support, unlike those Christo-Fascist End Days Cultists and Sheldon Adelson ass-kissers in the GOP.
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)of Independence!
JI7
(89,264 posts)which is given all the time for many countries during their holidays.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The fact that she wasn't raises alot of nasty questions about the Party Leadership.
In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:
Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia
Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez
Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo
All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.
FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>
Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.
While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.
Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:
The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.
http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537
The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.
They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."
This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html
Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing
A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.
bvar22
Cursed with a memory
With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!
The fact that the current administration has elevated her to Chair the DNC says a lot
about our Democratic Leadership who won't even endorse Democrats.
If Debbie were a member of DU, she would be banned.
...and people wonder how the Democratic Party became so conservative.
think
(11,641 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)She has not done anything of substance since she took over from Howard Dean.
Terrible decision to give the role.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)No more money to the DNC as long as Wasserman-Schultz is the chair.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Fuck that.