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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 07:55 PM Apr 2015

Veteran who posed with American flag in Playboy arrested for stealing American flag

She told cops that the students were disrespecting it -- the students asked police why she hadn't been arrested yet

SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN

A former Air Force sergeant who left the military after posing naked with the American flag in Playboy in 2007 was arrested on Friday after she attempted to steal the flag of an African-American student group she believed was disrespecting it, the Washington Post’s Michael E. Miller reports.

In a video recorded by her daughter, Michelle Manhart can be seen holding the flag as she encounters a student who demands she return it. “That’s not yours,” the student says. “Actually it is,” Manhart replies. “This flag belongs to the entire United States.”

More students — who say they were there protesting racism — surround Manhart and attempt to secure the flag. As police get between them, Manhart tries to sprint away but is stopped by the gathering crowd. One of the protesters can be heard telling police that the fact that she hasn’t been arrested yet is “white privilege.”

“Is that not theft?” another asks. “If this had been in the ‘hood, you’d have had me in handcuffs already.”

In a twist that visibly surprised Manhart herself, the officers demand that she return the flag. When she refuses, they move to detain her. “Why are you not touching her?” she asks, wondering why the officer was not detaining the lead female protester.

“You are disobeying our lawful command,” the officer replies. “Let go of the flag.” When she refuses yet again, all four officers pin her to the ground and handcuff her — to the evident delight of the student protesters.

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http://www.salon.com/2015/04/20/veteran_who_posed_with_american_flag_in_playboy_arrested_for_stealing_american_flag/

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Veteran who posed with American flag in Playboy arrested for stealing American flag (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
Happy, this one time, to see the police pin someone down. nt NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #1
She claimed they were desecrating the flag by placing it on the ground notadmblnd Apr 2015 #2
Have you seen G. Gordon Liddy's photo... Oilwellian Apr 2015 #3
yes, I did have the misfortune o seeing that repulsive being in a flag speedo. notadmblnd Apr 2015 #4
Humping the flag = patriotism beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #6
I saw the photo. EL34x4 Apr 2015 #20
She's just looking for another 15 minutes of fame notadmblnd Apr 2015 #26
But, she wasn't charged nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #5
Because the owner of the flag (a student) did not want to press charges. Iris Apr 2015 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #7
The US flag code is not a law. The first amendment outweighs all of your concerns. CBGLuthier Apr 2015 #11
You too are entitled to your opinion. Jenoch Apr 2015 #16
It's a piece of fabric wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #15
So what's your point? wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #18
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #19
Creative post-hoc rationalization. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #24
Making a rude, sexist, or homophobia comment just to elicit a response is the definition of trolling FSogol Apr 2015 #25
Nice rack? Flags should be respected, but not female human beings. n/t prayin4rain Apr 2015 #17
Pretty sick isn't it? n/t JTFrog Apr 2015 #22
Nice rack? Aren't you classy! Nt Logical Apr 2015 #23
What an absolute idiot. cwydro Apr 2015 #8
She was going out later and needed something to wear. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2015 #9
Flag desecration... TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #10
she'll be hired by fox news next week. n/t PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #14
Meet your future Republican Vice Presidential candidate. hunter Apr 2015 #21
Precedent* mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2015 #27

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. She claimed they were desecrating the flag by placing it on the ground
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

But I' like to ask her to explain how posing naked and getting her coochie juice all over it is not desecration?

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
3. Have you seen G. Gordon Liddy's photo...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 09:15 PM
Apr 2015

sporting the American flag? I'll spare everyone the visual nightmare. LOL

I would love to have been with the students after the woman was hauled away. I'm sure great laughs were had by one and all. What a bizarre encounter. LOL

Iris

(15,659 posts)
12. Because the owner of the flag (a student) did not want to press charges.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:19 AM
Apr 2015

Good on him. No use giving her even more exposure and creating more fake outrage for the FOX news crew.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
11. The US flag code is not a law. The first amendment outweighs all of your concerns.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:08 AM
Apr 2015

You do of course have the right to be annoyed but to say someone should not do something that they are legally entitled to do annoys me.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
13. It's a piece of fabric
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:24 AM
Apr 2015

Get over it.

It annoys me when people have to make irrelevant references to a woman's appearance (nice rack)

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FSogol

(45,488 posts)
25. Making a rude, sexist, or homophobia comment just to elicit a response is the definition of trolling
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:43 PM
Apr 2015

Just saying....

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
10. Flag desecration...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:27 PM
Apr 2015

...is a touchy subject.

In recent months, 'BlackLivesMatter' activists have made flag desecration into an art form.





How do you differentiate between patriotism and disrespect? Like anything else, I suspect 'intent' becomes key in delineation of purpose.

Wearing the flag out of a misguided sense of patriotism (see G. Gordon Liddy, et al.) is one thing...





Stepping on, cutting, burning and wiping one's ass with the flag implies an entirely separate angle of intent. (Jump to 6:50 in the following video):



As an American, I don't personally approve of flag desecration as a form of protest. (My father fought in Korea at the Battle of Chosin.)

However, as a believer in free speech and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, I lean toward defending the right to do so.

I have been and will continue to be a HUGE supporter of 'BlackLivesMatter.' That said, flag desecration may be where I draw the line. In this case, I'm inclined to side with the Vet...

TYY
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