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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:50 PM Apr 2015

Updating a prior OP, for those who feel the Party Bosses are rigging the deck for Hillary Clinton...

The Democrats ?@TheDemocrats 1h1 hour ago
This is why Democrats fight for #progress:



The Democrats @TheDemocrats · Apr 18
There's a reason they call us the "Party of the People.”



The Democrats @TheDemocrats · Apr 17
RT if you agree with Lincoln Chafee.



(I assume Bernie Sanders will be along presently...)



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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
1. HAha..Webb hired a good writer. Too bad it doesn't match his record.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:07 PM
Apr 2015

Beautiful well written quotes to tug at the heartstrings.



I want to hear them take on the goons riding in the Clown Car.
Well written profound sounding statements mean little.

I want to hear them say the truth over & over about the Clown Car peeps until their wheels come off.

Convince the Nation you are well prepared to destroy them in the one on one campaign for 2016.
Make me want to vote for you. Because I want them to fail & some coattails riding with you to rebalance the Senate & House so America has a chance to end the GOP fascist run on our Government.

Put up or Shut up.
2016 is the last shot we have. Tell me what you are going to do with the RW fascists.
I am listening

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Actually, Webb is a passable writer, but has been an undistinguished center-right Senator.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:34 PM
Apr 2015

He's not a progressive or even a liberal, except by the standards of the Naval Annex to the Pentagon, where he was appointed Secretary of the Navy under Reagan.

On Obama's Iran framework, he said last week that Congress "should scrub the whole deal." http://freebeacon.com/national-security/jim-webb-pans-iran-deal-congress-needs-to-scrub-this-whole-idea/

Webb said he shared concerns with the negotiations, especially the verification process brought up by former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and George Shultz in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal. The op-ed criticized the deal, and called for the U.S. to step back from the table. The Obama administration dismissed the advice.

The Democrat bucking his party and president will set up an interesting line of questioning for all candidates in the 2016 race. Will those seeking the highest office embrace the deal or run away from Obama?

Webb’s likely primary rival, Hillary Clinton, has yet to speak out on the deal besides an initial, intentionally vague statement. While the statement was mostly positive and seemingly supported the outline, one rich friend of Clinton’s hinted that she does not like what Secretary of State John Kerry brought back from the negotiating table in Switzerland.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Webb is not even close to the center of the Democratic party.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:30 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)

It's a shame how easily we accept a term without thinking, such as the general overview of left-center-right

The slow thinking and uncritical get abused all the time with the rhetorical frame-shifting.

From WITHIN the democratic party the political landscape is more like:

the democratic far left, the democratic left- the democratic center-the democratic right, the democratic far right (aka Overall centrist), a non-existance republican far left, the republican left, the republican center, the republican right and the republican far right.


AMericans LOVE the word centrist but have absolutely no control over how that word is abused

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. You're right. The term centrist is contingent and often misused. Webb isn't a centrist Democrat
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

by the terms accepted within the Party. He was also practically invisible as a Senator.

He doesn't represent a viable choice for the nomination in my book.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. He likes military solutions...chopping down the DOD budget is the ONLY path to the future
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:44 PM
Apr 2015

American's can't do shit domestically because they are way way over-invested in military assets and military commitments.

Webb isn't on my list for possible consideration. I'd avoid voting for a ticket that had him as a VP.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. If you ever read his novel, you'd see stuff in there that makes him a most unlikely nominee
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:49 PM
Apr 2015

by the Democratic Party for President or even Veep.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. It's all referenced in this bio by Elizabeth Drew, if you're interested.
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:02 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2008/jun/26/the-jim-webb-story/

I will rescind my criticism about his Senate record. Webb was instrumental in passage of a major Veteran's Benefits Bill early in his term. After that, however, I barely heard anything about him, and he was one of my Senators.
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