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babylonsister

(171,073 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:17 PM Apr 2015

Jeb Bush declares his brother’s failures ‘irrelevant’

Posted with permission.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bush-declares-his-brothers-failures-irrelevant?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Jeb Bush declares his brother’s failures ‘irrelevant’
04/20/15 08:40 AM
By Steve Benen


Two months ago, Jeb Bush was asked about some of his brother’s foreign policy decisions. “I won’t talk about the past,” the Republican said, adding his unannounced presidential campaign is “not about re-litigating anything in the past.”

The Washington Post reported over the weekend that the former governor’s position hasn’t improved much since.

…Bush dodged reporter’s questions about how he might govern differently than his father or brother or whether his views on foreign policy differ from them…. Bush has previously said that the intelligence used to justify the start of the Iraq war was flawed, but he pushed back against a question Friday about whether his brother had made any other mistakes with his foreign policy.

I’m not going to get into that,” he said. “That’s not particularly relevant in a world of deep insecurity, focusing on the past is not really relevant. What’s relevant is what’s the role of America going forward?”


The comments were, of course, caught on tape.

The obvious problem with Bush’s position is that it’s factually wrong. If there’s “deep insecurity” in the world, much of it is the direct result of some of his brother’s decisions – most notably a disastrous and unnecessary war in the Middle East that destabilized the region.

If the Florida Republican genuinely believes his brother’s wars aren’t “relevant” to today’s national security challenges, Bush is badly confused about the basics of current events. Indeed, Americans deserve to know whether the former governor has learned any lessons from his brother’s devastating failure; “I’m not going to get into that” isn’t a satisfactory reply.

The less obvious problem is that Bush has already surrounded himself with the Bush family’s team of foreign-policy advisers. In the context of his 2016 candidacy, few things are as relevant as this basic truth.

Jeb Bush believes his foreign policy beliefs should be guided by his brother’s staff, but at the same time, Jeb Bush believes his brother’s foreign policy decisions aren’t relevant to his presidential ambitions. If he sees this as a coherent argument, he’s mistaken.

Finally, let’s not brush past the contradiction at the heart of Bush’s talking points: he insists that “focusing on the past is not really relevant,” while at the same time, he’s eager to condemn President Obama’s handling of international affairs. Last week, the GOP candidate told an audience that Obama “believes that America’s power is not appropriate and America’s presence is not a force for good,” which is both demonstrably ridiculous and an obvious attempt to focus on the past.

There’s still plenty of time for Bush to come up with a more lucid response to these questions, though I’ll confess to being hard pressed to imagine what those answers might look like. The results of his brother’s foreign policies – and to a very real degree, Jeb Bush’s advisers’ foreign policies – were catastrophic. He doesn’t want to endorse failure; he doesn’t want to condemn his brother; and he can’t simply take a pass on the legitimate questions. It’s not a recipe for long-term success.

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Jeb Bush declares his brother’s failures ‘irrelevant’ (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2015 OP
Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeate it. liberal N proud Apr 2015 #1
Especially when they are surrounded by the same team of chicken-hawk, hifiguy Apr 2015 #3
The first words that popped into my mind... 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #10
Uh huh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #2
not to the million people killed and their families spanone Apr 2015 #4
Them there brown people don't count malaise Apr 2015 #6
oh, right! spanone Apr 2015 #9
There was deep insecurity in the world in 2000. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #5
Worst case: what a heartless asshole. Best case: Hillary has a campaign commercial. Vinca Apr 2015 #7
"Irrelevant ya hear me? Just keep those campaign contribs coming in." lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #11
Same old Bushco spiel Retrograde Apr 2015 #12
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. Especially when they are surrounded by the same team of chicken-hawk,
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:23 PM
Apr 2015

neo-fascist war mongers and imperialists. You are not fooling a soul, Jebbie.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
10. The first words that popped into my mind...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:49 PM
Apr 2015

...were "The hell they are!". The second words were those you quoted.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
5. There was deep insecurity in the world in 2000.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:24 PM
Apr 2015

Bush did all that he could to maximize the resulting destruction.

On no account should anyone unable to draw any lessons from the last 20 years be allowed in a similar position.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
8. "Irrelevant ya hear me? Just keep those campaign contribs coming in."
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:38 PM
Apr 2015


So what if Shit-for-Brains was the worst president in modern times.









Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
12. Same old Bushco spiel
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:59 PM
Apr 2015

We can't talk about past actions and decisions because the past is over. We can't talk about future plans because the future hasn't happened yet. That leaves the present: make your campaign check out to ....

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