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Can someone tell me when the Census Bureau began counting undocumented immigrants? (Original Post) cynatnite May 2012 OP
do you mean undocumented immigrants? Because people can't be illegal. Capn Sunshine May 2012 #1
But many have documents. Igel May 2012 #4
Illegal immigrant is not politically correct. provis99 May 2012 #7
It should have begun with the first census TBMASE May 2012 #2
long ago - I think @1900 rurallib May 2012 #3
If I recall correctly... Always. Ohio Joe May 2012 #5
They officially count EVERYONE residing in the US. kestrel91316 May 2012 #6
From way back, I would think. All you ask is who was living at Address X on April 1 in the census Brickbat May 2012 #8
Since the 1st Census in 1790...all other persons Historic NY May 2012 #9
Bah, you beat me to it! n/t krispos42 May 2012 #10

Igel

(35,320 posts)
4. But many have documents.
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:47 PM
May 2012

Not just American ones.

If "illegal immigrant" means "an illegal person who has immigrated" then an "undocumented immigrant" can only mean "an undocumented person who has immigrated."

Few "undocumented immigrants" are truly undocumented. Most of those deported are, consequently, not undocumented immigrants.

Unless you mean "a person who has immigrated and lacks American documents". In which case I guess we're stuck with "not-properly-American-documented immigrants." Anything else wouldn't be good English, I guess. We can refer to them all as N-PADIs.

Makes me glad I speak a natural language in which communities of speakers have a variety of processes for imparting semantic content.

(Personally, I always took "illegal" to be underlyingly an adverb. "A person who immigrates in an illegal manner." Just like a "good musician" is a "person who plays music well", not "a good person who plays music." English sometimes has formal concord that messes up the underlying semantics.)

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's most definitely a canard.

Ohio Joe

(21,760 posts)
5. If I recall correctly... Always.
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:04 PM
May 2012

I worked on the 2010 Census. The goal of the Census is to count people, it was the one piece of information we really wanted, everything else was optional.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
6. They officially count EVERYONE residing in the US.
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:10 PM
May 2012

And they don't check papers, or even ask if someone is here legally.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
8. From way back, I would think. All you ask is who was living at Address X on April 1 in the census
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:49 PM
May 2012

year. You don't ask about "documented" status.

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