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realFedUp

(25,053 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:38 PM Apr 2015

"Who" and "that"

It drives me crazy to hear TV journalists use the words "that" and "who" in the wrong way in a sentence.. Shouldn't they be more educated in English grammar, using the appropriate word? A thing gets a "that", someone who lives or lived gets a "who".

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"Who" and "that" (Original Post) realFedUp Apr 2015 OP
those are exactly the journalists that drive me mental! unblock Apr 2015 #1
Who that, who that? That do that, do that? 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #2
Stoned? realFedUp Apr 2015 #3
I'm more bothered by those who use stigmatizing language HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #4
Yes, worse realFedUp Apr 2015 #5
It's probably the reason the TPP will pass and destroy our national sovereignty FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #6
You're probably right realFedUp Apr 2015 #7
THANK YOU!!!! It drives me nuts. You read it in print as well. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #8
That is one of my pet peeves too! femmocrat Apr 2015 #9
I agree, but I often break the rule, frogmarch Apr 2015 #10
I do that too... realFedUp Apr 2015 #11
Of whom are you speaking? Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #12
I should have kept a list..... realFedUp Apr 2015 #13
I was eluding to the misuse of who and whom Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #14
No doubt realFedUp Apr 2015 #15
"Eluding"? graegoyle Apr 2015 #17
It's not incorrect grammar; it's just a different style muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #16
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
2. Who that, who that? That do that, do that?
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:44 PM
Apr 2015

I'm so fancy, you already know. I'm in the fast lane, from L.A. to Tokyo.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. I'm more bothered by those who use stigmatizing language
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:54 PM
Apr 2015

as sizzle.

Misuse of who and that seems unlikely to promote popular prejudices that support discrimination.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
10. I agree, but I often break the rule,
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:04 PM
Apr 2015

if there is one saying non-human animals are "that," especially when it comes to pets. To me, they are "who."

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
16. It's not incorrect grammar; it's just a different style
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:44 PM
Apr 2015
That or who
Most writers use that and whichas the relative pronouns for inanimate objects, and who as the relative pronoun for humans. This widespread habit has led to the mistaken belief that using that in reference to humans is an error. In fact, while most editors prefer who for people, there is no rule saying we can’t use that, and that has been widely used in reference to people for many centuries. It remains so today, especially in British writing, exemplified here:

Labour insiders argue that Balls is probably the man that can most effectively deliver a reshaping of the party’s economic policy. (The Guardian)

This demonstrates how completely out of touch they have become with the people that they purport to speak on behalf of. (Telegraph)

http://grammarist.com/usage/that-who/
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