Hillary Clinton Beats Up Crippled Children, Takes Their Candy And Parking Space

[Capt. Obvious]

What terrible thing did Hillary Clinton do now? Why, she parked her Scooby Van in a handicapped spot — and laughed about it! Look, there is even video! And in case you cannot believe it, the Very Offended Krystal Heath, associate producer for conservative “comedian” Steven Crowder, wrote a trillion words about it and how she is Personally Very Offended, also she has a photograph to point out the offensive parking job:



Do you see?!?! There is the “Handicapped Parking” sign, and right there is Hillary Clinton’s van. (If only we had an arrow pointing out Hillary Clinton. She is the one in pink. Trying to play the gender card to pander to chicks, obviously.)

....

Anyway. We expect this latest SCANDAL! to blow over in about, oh [checks iClock] five seconds, despite the collective orgasm from the conservative interwebs that there is EVEN MORE PROOF! that Hillary Clinton sucks. And really, we get it. We do! It’s very hard for conservatives right now, because they want to beat Clinton so bad, but all their candidates suck so hard, and as of now, the best they’ve got are some old recycled -gates that never went anywhere two decades ago and won’t stick this time either.

Of course, if conservatives wanted to lob some legitimate criticisms against Hillary Clinton, they could. There is her support for George Bush’s invasion of Iraq in 2003, for example. Or her former opposition to marriage equality at the federal level. (She’s cool with that now, though. Maybe go the flip-flop route?) They could say she’s too moderate, too hawkish, too cozy with Big Business — she served on the board of directors of Walmart in the ’80s, you know. They could point out that she’s perpetrated the stigmatization of abortion by saying it’s a practice that should be “safe, legal, and rare.”

Moar words

[Historic NY]

1. There are 2 meters on that post and the sign with the arrow...

is on the one to the rear of the van....We don't know if the vehicle in front did a crappy parking job in crowding out the space.

[joshcryer]

2. Christ.

No.

[Calista241]

3. While this won't affect my vote

People parking in the handicapped spot when they're not disabled is one of my pet peeves. I've done a fair amount of fundraising and activities for people with disabilities, and this kind of thing infuriates me. I even got into a verbal altercation about it last year with some Mom who said she was in a hurry.

[leftofcool]

6. You did see the KETV tag on the van correct?

[Calista241]

7. This is a screen grab from a news program.

The KETV tag is a superimposed watermark applied by the news station. It's not actually on the van. It's like the yellow first down line on football games broadcast on TV.

[HereSince1628]

9. LOL

Yes, I'm sure that the KETV tag got placed on the van over the E in Explorer

[Ms. Toad]

10. It's a screen capture from a KETV story, not a tag on the van. n/t

[leftofcool]

16. Looks like it is on the van but hey, a photographer I am not.

What I know about photography could be put in a thimble with room left over.

[Agschmid]

34. Adding my vote to screen grab, logo not on van.

[snooper2]

26. LOL, really?

well, makes sense now-

why is Russia Times giving kids tanks?

[Capt. Obvious]

42. Look at this KETV chair

[leftofcool]

4. Odd that the Hillary van has a KETV Channel 7 tag on the back of the van, doncha think?

Even more odd is the journalist and camera crew right near their own van.

[Ms. Toad]

12. It's a screen capture from a KETV story, not a tag on the van. n/t

[demmiblue]

14. lol!

[DURHAM D]

5. looks photo-shopped to me

very quirky

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. The Scooby Doo van had to be photo-shopped; Hillary couldn't be that foolish to be caught taking a handicapped space...

as it only feeds the "she's entitled" meme. No way her hundreds of paid consultants would let that slip.

[Ms. Toad]

32. You obviously haven't seen the video. n/t

http://www.ketv.com/news/internet-is-buzzing-about-video-of-hillary-clintons-van/32409762

[Savannahmann]

8. Gang it happened.

I know you don't want to admit it. But it happened.

http://www.ketv.com/news/internet-is-buzzing-about-video-of-hillary-clintons-van/32409762

Watch the video at the link. The van moved to the Handicap spot shortly before Hillary exited. It happened. Hiding the truth doesn't help.

[HereSince1628]

13. Looks to me as if the van may have pulled up to load passengers

That wouldn't really be quite the same as parking.

[KittyWampus]

21. "Gang"? THE SECRET SERVICE PARKS HER CAR. And your thread got locked

Deal with it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026520976

[Savannahmann]

25. Actually I wrote that to let the inevitable jury know.

I figured that someone would alert on this thread. So I assumed that like when I serve on the Jury I look at the totality of the thread to get the context, that someone else would too. So I put that in there to let the jury know it really did happen, and provided a link, so that this thread would not get hidden.

I'm not upset about my hide. As you may, or may not know, it is the only one I have "active" at this time. I am sorry that you assumed I was complaining, or whining. It isn't my style. But obviously you didn't know that.

[KittyWampus]

35. So you send me an abusive personal message? Cut down on the caffeine.

[JTFrog]

44. Resorting to nasty PM's?

I hope that poster alerted the admins.

You have been trying to push this as a legitimate news story. You can put as many notes to the juries as you want, but anyone who carries the right winger's water for them is taking their chances here.

[Savannahmann]

46. It began as a local story.

Then, as many local stories do, it went national, and then international. The local station, KETV has video, and the report. I posted the link to KETV, which is an ABC news affiliate. Not normally listed as a RW site. Daily Mail picked it up, as did CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/politics/hillary-clinton-van-handicap/

Another local station KCCI Omaha. http://www.kcci.com/news/caught-on-video-clinton-van-parked-in-handicap-space/32418012

Now, you may not think it's a legitimate news story. But it happened. It is a horrible optic to be caught in. My wife, who is handicapped, not that it matters, was not amused to say the least. Bad optics stick with people, and politicians. Look at the ESPN reporter who is now suspended after a rant. Bad optics in the age of the internet stick with you for a very long time. This will come up whenever the Scooby Doo van appears for some time.

The way Democrats win, is when we are smart, and we campaign on issues, and we communicate those issues to the voters. Bad optics hurt those campaigns, because they draw away from the issues, and make it a question of entitled mentality. Hillary has enough baggage on that front already. Her vote for Bankruptcy reform that screwed the average citizen and protected the corporations ability to write off debt is but one example of the entitlement mentality that I mentioned.

The way you learn from your mistakes, is to admit you made a mistake, and take efforts to avoid repeating the mistake. This way, you avoid the mistake. You can bet that every photographer, and every videographer is going to be hustling to try and catch the van parked in another Handicap spot. If we don't learn from the mistake, it will happen again.

This is not RW water. This is what is happening. Simply denouncing it as RW water carrying doesn't help the Democratic Party at all. It makes us look like a bunch of lunatics. I've been a member of the ACLU for more than twenty years. I warned people that the Senate was in jeopardy in 2014, months ahead of time, and was told to shut the hell up. Don't worry I was told, the Democrats are going to win big because the Republicans have low favorables. What nobody was talking about was the Democratic Party favorables were only a few points higher. So we sucked, but they sucked worse.

I want to see a Democrat in the White House. I want to see the Democrats take the Senate. But we're not going to do that if we ignore things that are going to hurt us. Party line bullshit didn't help one damn bit in 2014. It cost us four million votes in 2012, and will lose us the election in 2016.

Pretending that the story isn't news is like putting your fingers in your ears and going I can't hear you la-la-la. It doesn't change facts, and it doesn't change the truth of the horrible optics. Right now, the mainstream media is showing that video from KETV to everyone they can. We can learn, apologize, and say we're taking efforts to keep from doing it again. Or we can shout it's all a trick and a bullshit story with photoshop or other nonsense. Dealing in reality is supposed to be a virtue of the Democratic Party. From Climate Change to economic theory and beyond.

It happened. Deal with it. Don't pretend that by sticking your fingers in your ears that it didn't. That won't win the election, that attitude guarantees that the Republicans get the Trifecta. House, Senate, and Oval Office.

[JTFrog]

54. You are embarrassing yourself.

The only folks running with this ridiculous story are right wing hacks. You did this with the whole Benghazi mess as well.

I guess you take your chances.

[Savannahmann]

57. Yeah, what version of History do you call that?

My single argument on Benghazi posted on this or any site was that we should open up and tell the truth, that we made a mistake, and thus utterly defuse the Conspiracy theory nonsense.

Brief Overview of the situation. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022837080

Report of the Bipartisan Congressional Report. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4339814

Hardly any CT nonsense there or do you think it's Conspiracy Theory to think that Congress released a report on the incident?

I argued that Jay Carney saying "it happened a long time ago" was stupid. And it was stupid. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022824286#post40

I warned that we would look bad if we didn't handle it right, and come out and tell the truth, all of the truth, right away. Guess what, We do look bad. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/16/cnnorc-poll-majority-dissatisfied-with-handling-of-benghazi/

Sixty percent of the people polled are dissatisfied with the handling of Benghazi. Well shit, who would have thunk that? Oh wait, that's right. Those of us who thought that were labeled as RW plants by small minded individuals.

We waited too long to let the truth out in dribs and drabs, and now people don't know what really happened. But who cares about that, we got to make fun of the Republicans, and while it made your friends and family laugh, the vast majority aren't really laughing. They think it was a cover-up. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/05/benghazi-poll_n_6277742.html

Eighty four percent don't know what the House Report that had been released around Thanksgiving showed. Wow, who could have predicted that.

I have written about the Fast and Furious program which was an utter disaster. Again, it happened. I never said that President Obama ordered it, or anything like that.

I wrote that I believed the Government certainly knew where the Malaysian Airlines flight 370 was. http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10024662018

Not really conspiracy theory there. Since my assumptions were based upon declassified programs that had been in use for decades. Things like over the horizon radar systems, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar Things like SOSUS, and satellite systems that can track thermal targets.

Not much RW conspiracy nonsense there. Just a consistent consideration about how things look to the average person, and how that would affect the Democratic Party in our electoral chances.

Bad optics stick with you. Remember these pictures?



Yes, everyone standing in the hatch of a tank looks pretty much just like that with the incorporated earphone helmets. But that got lots of laughs didn't it? Oh well it didn't matter. We won as I guess we're supposed to recall now.



Yeah, that didn't matter either. I mean, we won that one too.

No, I'm not saying those bad optic photos lost us the election, but they erode support, and each bad optic event hurts Democratic Party chances at a victory.

Now, you can keep pretending that I am a RW plant who tells people we should campaign on issues because 2014 was going to be a tough fight and we had to work to keep the Senate. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025127805#post34

I'd post more of those kinds of links, but this reply would be extraordinarily long then wouldn't it?

So I'm a RW plant that for months ahead of time said that we could and would lose the Senate if we didn't take the election seriously. Under that plan, I would have to guess that the Democratic Part was too arrogant and stupid to take good advice and campaign on the issues that the people said mattered in polling. By the time the rest of the folks woke up and saw the danger, the election results were coming in. They were worse than I had assumed.

So my advice so far has been ignored because I'm a RW plant, and the end result I've warned about has come true many more times than not. Wouldn't a RW plant tell you to go ahead and ignore such things because they don't matter? I mean, if I was a RW plant, wouldn't it be more advantageous to the Republican side to have the Democrats underestimate them, and make stupid mistakes, and all the bad optics things?

I mean, I've read the story about Brier Rabbit, and he encouraged the Fox to do the stupid thing, he didn't warn the Fox that throwing the rabbit into the Brier patch would allow him to escape. So am I an incompetent RW plant who can't seem to understand the idea that I'm supposed to hurt the Democrats, or am I an especially clever RW plant that knows the Democratic Party is too arrogant to listen to good advice and certainly too stubborn to act on it? Because those are your only two choices at this point.

[JTFrog]

63. All of that concern....

[Savannahmann]

64. So no apology for claiming I pushed Benghazi?

Surprise. NOT.

Not when the evidence doesn't support your assertion. Tell me, how long did you spend looking for a post you were certain I wrote?

[JTFrog]

66. Pfffft.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2824391

Have a good day.

[Orsino]

53. Jinkies!

Piss-poor optics, if the van really was left in a handicapped spot for more than a minute.

Not sure it's worth much excitement, though. If some manages to get her driver ticketed even once in the next year and a half of campaigning across the country, I'll be okay with that.

[fredamae]

15. Was it left

parked there or was it a "drop off" and go park someplace else?
Just curious and please....gimme a break.

If this kinda Petty Nonsense is going to be the "driver of protest" by the GOP? Then I'm getting on the HRC Mini-bus! If that's All they have...maybe I Need to take a second look at HRC for POTUS!

Dumb. Stupid. Humans.

[HereSince1628]

18. The media has no real story to tell so they go with what they have.

This is one place having competitors in the primary might help...at least some of the ridiculousness would be aimed at others.

What sticks up above all else gets hit with lightening, and ... well ... just ordinary static electricity.... the type that comes from rubbing a comb over a numbskull.

[treestar]

47. Really and right wingers are probably against handicapped set aside spaces anyway

Doesn't stop their hypocrisy though.

[sufrommich]

17. The Handicap Parking sign seems to have an arrow pointing

in another direction.

[boston bean]

22. I went to the damning link...

Here is what is says...

As Clinton was leaving the Main Street Cafe, her van was parked in a handicap spot on Pearl Street.

For most of the time that she was inside, the van was parked in a regular stall.

Handlers backed the van into the handicap spot shortly before Clinton left the cafe.

Holy frickin fracking crap, Hillary hates the handicapped.

[sufrommich]

23. The Republican strategy is to "Romney" her.

Make her seem as out of touch and elitist as Romney,they're getting a lot of help from other sources.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/gops-plan-attack-hillary-clinton-as-mitt-romney-116943.html

[KittyWampus]

36. Interesting. Thing is, both Clintons acknowledge their good fortune but pay their taxes

without complaining.

I think this strategy could easily backfire.

[hrmjustin]

19. I knew she was evil.

[mercuryblues]

20. HAHAHA

On the Handicap sign there is an arrow that directs a person to the HP area. On top of that the curb is not painted blue designating it as a handicap space.

The pic in the OP has the arrow blurred. Wonder why? who ever is reporting this as a fact should be shamed and shunned as a journalist.

here is a better pic. at the link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3042448/Scooby-limps-Iowa-Secret-Service-parked-Hillary-Clinton-s-van-HANDICAPPED-spot-huddled-Democratic-leaders-high-stakes-meeting.html

[Ms. Toad]

33. So it is ok to park in a spot clearly intended to be used by people with disablities

if the city/business/etc. messed up and didn't follow the marking guidelines?

That is an argument I have with my spouse all the time - who pulls into designated places all too frequently, with the "but the sign isn't the proper height" excuse.

Massive fail. Any serious progressive honors the intent to provide reserved spaces for individuals with disabilities - not the "get out of jail free" argument that the curb wasn't painted or the sign wasn't high enough.

(As to the substance of this argument - Clinton didn't park there, her handlers did. The van appears to be barely over the line into the designated parking place, and it was moved to that position briefly to pick her up. Bad optics - which her handlers obviously need to be more attentive to - but a tempest in a teapot.)

[mercuryblues]

37. it isn't a

handicapped spot. The pic of the sign in the op has the arrow pointing to the left blurred out. If you also notice the spot does not have the blue paint on the curb to denote it being handicapped.

[Ms. Toad]

40. I was addressing the "it's ok - the curb wasn't blue" excuse

It is a pet peeve of mine.

If you read the rest of the post, you see that I addressed the substantive concerns later, including that the handicapped parking space was behind the sign.

[treestar]

50. It might not be a handicapped spot

if that sign is there to point as an arrow to a place that is for handicapped parking. Maybe the curb does not have to be blue, but it's a factor.

But as someone reminds us down thread, it really does not matter, as the Secret Service in involved. Nobody's parking on that street anyway.

[Ms. Toad]

56. For the 3rd time, I addressed the substance separately. My point about the curb being blue excuse

is that progressives have no business excusing discriminatory behavior because those in charge of signage screwed up. If there is a handicapped parking sign that is too low, or the curb is not blue, etc. as long as you can tell the intent is that the parking space is reserved for people with disabilities, if you don't have have a disability - stay out of the parking spot. Period.

Where the van was parked, in this instance, whether it was parked or merely picking up, who parked it, etc. is not what I was primarily addressing (although I did add a note at the end to ward of response like yours & the previous one).

I don't care about the details of this particular incident. I do care about suggesting that parking in a handicapped parking space is ok because it wasn't properly marked.

[treestar]

60. I don't think the person suggested that

but that it might not be an actual handicapped space, and that sign might be pointing to the fact the handicapped parking is elsewhere. Doesn't seem to but that was the poster's intent, not your pet peeve, which you just took up pretending that poster had asserted it.

And it doesn't matter, as no one was going to park on that street, handicapped or not, as the Secret Service cleared the street. Thus this is another tempest over nothing.

[Ms. Toad]

62. "On top of that the curb is not painted blue designating it as a handicap space. "

Note: there's no blue curb anywhere near the space, so the poster was making a general statement about the relationship between blue curbs and handicapped parking spaces - not distinguishing between two spaces actually in question as to which one was handicapped: the space in front of the sign and the one behind the sign.

And, as I said in the first post - as to the substance - "it is a tempest in a teapot."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. After further consideration, there appears to be a wide open space right next to the handicapped parking spot. Why didn't Hillary just move it 10 feet further up the street?

[Ms. Toad]

41. That's the bad optics piece of it.

In this case I don't think there was a substantive concern - given that the van pulled up to pick her up & only had its tail end a couple of feet into the space.

But, since she is widely seen as elite and out of touch with the real world, she (and her team who were responsible for parking the van) need to pay attention to the optics.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Yes, she needs to be a lot more careful, especially when appearing out in public.

[jberryhill]

51. I agree - she should walk down the block and be exposed to sniper fire from other buildings

The movements of the van are dictated by security concerns.

Nobody is pulling another vehicle in while she is there, handicapped or not.

But, sure, let's have her take a bullet in order to avoid a vehicle being in a handicapped spot for a momentary pickup.

[Ms. Toad]

58. You're being ridiculous.

Look at the footage. There were parking places that were very close that did not require the van to intrude into the handicapped parking place. I'm also sure that there was this super-secret-invisible bubble over the portion of the sidewalk between the shop and the street so the snipers in those other buildings couldn't fire at her unless she stepped a couple feet out of the closest path from the door to the van. Not to mention that, on your reasoning, her entire tour which is designed for her to interact with the public shouldn't be happening because someone might pull out a gun and shoot her, or stab her, or any number of other vile things they could think up which wandering into Chipotle, or up to strangers at filling stations, etc. make possible.

[littlemissmartypants]

24. Well ...

She is a wimin, technically that makes her handicapped.

[JaneyVee]

27. Break the internet!

[Turbineguy]

28. Probably trying to find out

what it feels like to be a republican.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. You still stuck on her Iraq War vote?

There's no evidence that candy was taken from those children.

Just life and limb.

So stop right there, buster.

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. It's a Russian SUV - a KETV seven cylinder model.

I never did trust her..............

[bigtree]

39. heard she shot a man in Reno

...just to watch him die.

[MADem]

65. .....

That's about the level of discourse around here!!

[Canoe52]

45. This is silly,

The secret service wasn't going to let anyone park within 20 feet of the van, so the van being over the line a bit is a moot point.

[treestar]

49. Oh yeah, there's that.

[treestar]

48. How come it is on the left side of a street?

It looks like the back of the van.

[KamaAina]

55. Could it be a one-way street?

[treestar]

59. Must be.

[MADem]

52. Is that an arrow pointing left (i.e. away from the BACK of the van) on that handicapped sign?

Sure looks like it to me, but that's a blurry pic, so who knows? If that's the case, then the "handicapped spot" is BEHIND the van.

Ah look--it IS a left pointing arrow--here, on edit, is a clearer pic!!!



What I do know is that Hillary wasn't driving that van so "she" didn't "park" it anywhere.

What I don't know is if there's a driver in that vehicle waiting to pull out after he or she offloads his/her passengers.

What I also don't know is if that's even HER van, or the van she arrived in.

What I DO know is that there are desperate people in this world who will do anything--ANYTHING--to create a tempest in a teapot.

The frantic urgency behind this failed GOTCHA is very revealing. The wingnuts--and their allies--are truly scratching and clawing to hang on to the edge of the cliff they're about to go over...!!




Reminds me of the Scott Brown assholes singing "Pow Wow, The Indian Boy" in front of a Bets Warren campaign office. When that hit the news, Warren's numbers, which were neck and neck, started climbing. No one likes people who make snide, unfair accusations--and this one is a fucking beaut!!!

I can hear the "Waaaaaaah!!!!! Waaaaaaah!" of the whining wingnuts and their enablers from here!!

Thank you for an hilarious thread--the Teafarty machinations are like watching a limbo dance contest --how low WILL they go, I wonder?

[treestar]

61. Yes, there might be a driveway there

It looks like it is pointing away.

And the Secret Service would have cleared that street.

I remember seeing Al Gore campaigning for VP in 1992 in a green in a small town. They'd cleared every house that faced that green.

[Buns_of_Fire]

67. Good thing they edited out that part of the picture that showed

the van running over two boxes of free adorable kittens and puppies, a little girl crying over her demolished lemonade stand, and the dead disabled veteran who was trying desperately to crawl out of the way of the deathmobile.

Geez, I hope I haven't given these people any ideas.

On the other hand, I'm not too worried. If their Photoshopping skills are on par with their spelling, it would come out looking like Ren and Stimpy meet 12 ounce Mouse, anyway.