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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:57 AM Apr 2015

Parents of 8-Year-Old Boy Killed in Marathon Bombings Don’t Want Tsarnaev to Get Death Penalty

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The parents of Martin Richard, the 8-year-old boy killed in the Boston Marathon bombings two years ago, have writtten a plea to end the attention convicted killer Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has received and spare him from the death penalty.

In an essay written for The Boston Globe, Bill and Denise Richard ask that the case come to a close, writing, “We know that the government has its reasons for seeking the death penalty, but the continued pursuit of that punishment could bring years of appeals and prolong reliving the most painful day of our lives.”

The essay continues:

As long as the defendant is in the spotlight, we have no choice but to live a story told on his terms, not ours. The minute the defendant fades from our newspapers and TV screens is the minute we begin the process of rebuilding our lives and our family.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/16/parents-year-old-boy-killed-marathon-bombings-don-want-tsarnaev-get-death-penalty/RV4ziGRsSPJfi85KWp2NFM/story.html?p1=feature_stack_1_hp

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Parents of 8-Year-Old Boy Killed in Marathon Bombings Don’t Want Tsarnaev to Get Death Penalty (Original Post) morningfog Apr 2015 OP
Kick. morningfog Apr 2015 #1
k&r for all those affected, seems like good reasoning for them. uppityperson Apr 2015 #2
Kick. cwydro Apr 2015 #3
Thank you for posting this, morningfog. brer cat Apr 2015 #4
And this is how front page of the Globe appears today: morningfog Apr 2015 #5
I am against capital punishment. Jenoch Apr 2015 #6
Oh, please. The crowd would prefer you toss him in the street and they attack him like jtuck004 Apr 2015 #7
I'm not so sure thats what the crowd wants here. Agschmid Apr 2015 #9
Having been in OKC for that one, far worse than Boston, and reading the comments jtuck004 Apr 2015 #11
I think (and I take a big leap here) Mass. sees it differently. Agschmid Apr 2015 #13
And I'm proud of having survived it for over 20 years Warpy Apr 2015 #27
Nope. Not here Blue_Adept Apr 2015 #10
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #12
Death Penalty liberal from boston Apr 2015 #23
So true AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #14
Yeah. Have a trial, then execute him. Much prettier. Ask any black person jtuck004 Apr 2015 #15
The death penalty is revenge AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #18
Kick. Agschmid Apr 2015 #8
While I would not want to administer the death penalty dickthegrouch Apr 2015 #16
He should get 21 years max like in Norway 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #17
They wanted life with no possiblity for release B2G Apr 2015 #19
He hasn't been sentenced yet. morningfog Apr 2015 #21
So you think he deserves torture? ncjustice80 Apr 2015 #24
You don't know what you're talking about. morningfog Apr 2015 #25
21 years seems rather arbitrary no? Agschmid Apr 2015 #28
You can duly note that I fully support tossing him in a concrete cage for the rest of his life, too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #29
I agree. Especially given his age. morningfog Apr 2015 #20
Let him get all excited to go in front of a parole board every 2 years Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #33
... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #31
21 years so another child dies screaming with their guts in their lap alphafemale Apr 2015 #34
Another reason to drop the death penalty treestar Apr 2015 #22
I know where they're coming from Warpy Apr 2015 #26
Well, they just don't understand - this is America, we need vengeance tularetom Apr 2015 #30
Apparently some people here think it would be unacceptably cruel to put him in prison for life. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #32

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
4. Thank you for posting this, morningfog.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 09:45 AM
Apr 2015

I am adding a link directly to the essay written by the Richards, and adding a very poignant statement that adds a positive note to this most painful experience:

For us, the story of Marathon Monday 2013 should not be defined by the actions or beliefs of the defendant, but by the resiliency of the human spirit and the rallying cries of this great city. We can never replace what was taken from us, but we can continue to get up every morning and fight another day.

The epitome of #BostonStrong. I pray that they find peace.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/04/16/end-anguish-drop-death-penalty/ocQLejp8H2vesDavItHIEN/story.html#

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
6. I am against capital punishment.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 09:57 AM
Apr 2015

I feel even more against capital punishment when the convict wishes to die.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. Oh, please. The crowd would prefer you toss him in the street and they attack him like
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015

mad dogs.

Just like Oklahoma City. One or two people with basic humanity, the others beating up dark-skinned folks and looking to create more tragedy. But they killed McVeigh, things didn't get any better.

Interesting how these cases seem to become less about justice and more about vengeance.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. Having been in OKC for that one, far worse than Boston, and reading the comments
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:47 AM
Apr 2015

and other info that comes out, I get a different read. Especially in this country that went to war with an innocent one to get vengeance for New York. We are still killing and being killed over that one.

But you see it differently, and that's ok.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
13. I think (and I take a big leap here) Mass. sees it differently.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:48 AM
Apr 2015

It's ones of those times I'm really proud of where I live.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
27. And I'm proud of having survived it for over 20 years
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:03 PM
Apr 2015

It's all the Irish there. Mostly, we don't want our enemies dead. We want them to live long and miserable lives.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
10. Nope. Not here
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:46 AM
Apr 2015

The numbers hover around 60% that do not want the death penalty. Those that do are around 31% with the rest uncertain. And even that drops to 26% when polling just Boston proper.

We don't have the death penalty. We got rid of it for a reason. And that mindset has stuck with us since.

So, your statement about "the crowd" here is flat out wrong.

23. Death Penalty
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 01:17 PM
Apr 2015

So true Blue_Adept. I live in Boston in Dorchester, the neighborhood where the Richard family lives & overwhelmingly relatives, neighbors have voiced their opposition to the death penalty of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. God Bless the Richard Family.
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. Yeah. Have a trial, then execute him. Much prettier. Ask any black person
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:59 AM
Apr 2015

about the concept of justice in this country.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
16. While I would not want to administer the death penalty
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:11 AM
Apr 2015

I think it's a very important statement for 12 Jurors to be able to make that they consider the crime heinous enough to warrant the ultimate penalty.

It's also probably a profound life-altering event to have the knowledge that one's life might end on a specific date and time. And an even more sobering event every time a new court agrees with the initial assessment.

I'd prefer that murderers and terrorists be worked to death, like the rest of us, and provide some worth to the human race to mitigate the worthlessness they show so easily.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
17. He should get 21 years max like in Norway
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:13 AM
Apr 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway

Depriving someone of liberty for life is just as bad as the death penalty. It amazes me how many progressive people who are anti death penalty as perfectly okay with caging someone for the rest of their life.

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
24. So you think he deserves torture?
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:35 PM
Apr 2015

21 years should be the max. Your support of torture ia duly noted though.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
25. You don't know what you're talking about.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

You have no idea who you are talking to. Duly note my ass.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
29. You can duly note that I fully support tossing him in a concrete cage for the rest of his life, too.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:09 PM
Apr 2015

Please, put me on the dreaded list of unprogressively bad and mean people who are insufficiently sympathetic to the idea that the guy who giggled as he put down a body-shredding explosive backpack next to a 6 year old girl and an 8 year old boy, should be free to walk in 21 years because it would be "mean" to "deprive him of liberty for his entire life".



He blew his chance at liberty when he deliberately blew up innocent people. families, children. Permanently. Fuck him.

8 decades or so locked up? Tough shit.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. I agree. Especially given his age.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

Although, I would support a life sentence which included parole eligibility after 15 or 21 years.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. Let him get all excited to go in front of a parole board every 2 years
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 07:10 PM
Apr 2015

As long as we're guaranteed that they will go "no. Fuck you, now get back in your shitty cell."

That's fine with me.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. Another reason to drop the death penalty
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

It does not even give the victims the vengeance its proponents want. As they said, it would give him more attention.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
26. I know where they're coming from
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:59 PM
Apr 2015

Having him killed in my name would make it harder, too, with years to sweat out between sentencing and execution and the knowledge that by the time the needle went into his arm, he would most likely be a different human being from the one who followed his crazy big brother in to mayhem.

As long as he's prevented from doing it again, it's sufficient. It was in my own case, too.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
30. Well, they just don't understand - this is America, we need vengeance
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:49 PM
Apr 2015

After all, we're going to fry this asshat for them, so that they can achieve "closure" (whatever the fuck that is). They should be grateful.

They'll come around, they just need a pep talk from Nancy Grace.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. Apparently some people here think it would be unacceptably cruel to put him in prison for life.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 07:06 PM
Apr 2015

Even though that IS what the parents want.

Hell, why lock him up at all?

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