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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Conservative Florida Republican Explains Why He Shot Down an Anti-Gay Adoption Bill
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/04/14/a_florida_republican_explains_why_he_shot_down_an_anti_gay_adoption_bill.htmlLast Wednesday, gay rights activists throughout Florida held their breaths and waited for catastrophe. It never came. The state Senate was debating amendments to a new adoption bill that would, among other things, provide incentives for Floridians to adopt special needs children and formally repeal the states ban on adoptions by same-sex couples. Sen. Kelli Stargel, displeased with the bills pro-equality provisions, proposed an alarming conscience clause amendment that would permit even state-funded adoption agencies to turn away couples on account of their religious or moral convictions. The LGBTQ community expected the amendment to passuntil Republican Sen. Don Gaetz stood up to protest the measure, declaring:
I don't think it would be right for this Senate to take the position that we believeas some believed in 1977that there was something wrong with a child having a chance at a loving home even if the people in that loving home didn't have the traditional family values that we have. It wasn't too many years ago that interracial adoptions were illegal and frowned on and immoral. We don't need to turn the social clock in this state back to 1977 [when the gay adoption ban was passed].
Gaetz then called Floridas anti-gay adoption law a sleeping, comatose dead dog and an archaic, dusty, dead law. The amendment, seemingly fast-tracked for success, was then overwhelmingly rejected on a voice vote. I spoke to Gaetz on Monday about his stand for equality....
The amendment would have allowed faith-based adoption agencies to not perform or facilitate adoptions that offended their religious or moral beliefs. So it wasnt just gay adoptions. It wasnt too long ago that interracial adoptions were deemed to be morally offensive to some groups. So the problem is that this amendment didnt just create an opportunity to discriminate against gay adoptions. It would create an opportunity to discriminate against any adoptions that a faith-based group thought would be offensive to their moral or religious beliefs. Thats a big, wide slippery slope.
I don't think it would be right for this Senate to take the position that we believeas some believed in 1977that there was something wrong with a child having a chance at a loving home even if the people in that loving home didn't have the traditional family values that we have. It wasn't too many years ago that interracial adoptions were illegal and frowned on and immoral. We don't need to turn the social clock in this state back to 1977 [when the gay adoption ban was passed].
Gaetz then called Floridas anti-gay adoption law a sleeping, comatose dead dog and an archaic, dusty, dead law. The amendment, seemingly fast-tracked for success, was then overwhelmingly rejected on a voice vote. I spoke to Gaetz on Monday about his stand for equality....
The amendment would have allowed faith-based adoption agencies to not perform or facilitate adoptions that offended their religious or moral beliefs. So it wasnt just gay adoptions. It wasnt too long ago that interracial adoptions were deemed to be morally offensive to some groups. So the problem is that this amendment didnt just create an opportunity to discriminate against gay adoptions. It would create an opportunity to discriminate against any adoptions that a faith-based group thought would be offensive to their moral or religious beliefs. Thats a big, wide slippery slope.
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A Conservative Florida Republican Explains Why He Shot Down an Anti-Gay Adoption Bill (Original Post)
KamaAina
Apr 2015
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DirkGently
(12,151 posts)1. Don't go thinking Sen. Gaetz is too enlightened though.
He also supports an "abortion waiting period" bill working its way through the Florida legislature.
You know, so women can remember to "think" and "be aware" before making their own healthcare decisions.
We want to ensure that women are aware, not just of the psychological effects, but that they are also aware of the medical and physical effects as well, Senate sponsor Anitere Flores, R-Miami, said after Tuesdays vote. But opponents contend the bill is an attempt to make it harder for women to have abortions.
This bill is just another impediment in a continuing effort to erode a womans right to choose, Senate Minority Leader Arthenia Joyner, D-Tampa, said.
The vote was along party lines, with the bill supported by Flores; committee Chairman Aaron Bean, R-Fernandina Beach; Senate Majority Leader Bill Galvano, R-Bradenton; Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville; and Sen. Denise Grimsley, R-Sebring. Opposing the bill were Joyner; Sen. Oscar Braynon, D-Miami Gardens; and Sen. Eleanor Sobel, D-Hollywood.
This bill is just another impediment in a continuing effort to erode a womans right to choose, Senate Minority Leader Arthenia Joyner, D-Tampa, said.
The vote was along party lines, with the bill supported by Flores; committee Chairman Aaron Bean, R-Fernandina Beach; Senate Majority Leader Bill Galvano, R-Bradenton; Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville; and Sen. Denise Grimsley, R-Sebring. Opposing the bill were Joyner; Sen. Oscar Braynon, D-Miami Gardens; and Sen. Eleanor Sobel, D-Hollywood.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/03/31/abortion-waiting-period-gets-senate-ok/
djean111
(14,255 posts)2. This - "even if the people in that loving home didn't have the traditional family values that we
have" - I hate it so fucking much when people say that sort of thing. Like gay people don't have family values. And Floridians like Ms. Bondi have not been married twice, divorced twice and called off another marriage right before the wedding.