Hey, check out my cool new avatar.

[Skinner]

[Liberal_in_LA]

1. what does it mean? I hope it is not anti Hillary

[Skinner]

3. Here's a hint.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. ok. lol

[Spitfire of ATJ]

60. I can already see some Neocon tilting it sideways,....

.....then saying it's an Israeli Flag with a mushroom cloud over it.

You know,....because Benghazi....Iran,...nukes.

Ya know?

[KoKo]

85. Skinner....sorry it looks like "Hillary Moves Right"...unless you include

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/ every time it is posted.

It's very confusing if one just does the avatar without the quote that it might be mistaken as "Go With Hillary...Move to the Right."



Sorry....it's really confusing, imho.

[JimDandy]

104. That's what it looks like.

The Hillary logo says: I'll take you backwards and to the right.

Wow, who did she hire to design that blooper? Dems don't need such awful mistakes made by our only candidate, so far, on her first day out. Come on Clinton team, get on the ball. If you going to be our candidate, then please stop with the sophmoric mistakes.

[muriel_volestrangler]

141. Backwards? Do you read from the right to the left?

The 'H' is in the Latin (ie West European) script, which is read from the left to the right. It's what you're reading right now.

The meme of pointing right to mean 'forward' has moved beyond the dominant written languages of the world into the purely symbolic - look at a control for a DVD, YouTube or similar and the 'play' button points to the right, as does the 'fast forward' button.

[mimi85]

152. The logo is irrelevant...

the substance isn't. Whatever it might be. I just don't see warm and fuzzy after 2008. And PLEASE, keep Bill somewhere else! Oh well, que sera - as long as she can beat Jeb, who I think is a lock for the GOP. Can't imagine any of the other clowns in the car have a chance.

Wonder if we'll ever have a black woman, atheist and gay. Nah - not in this lifetime. Gotta go back to bed. The idiotic things that come to mind when you haven't slept.

[valerief]

118. Yep, it does. nt

[notadmblnd]

4. it says to me... Hillary Forward

[City Lights]

9. I see Hillary moving to the RIGHT. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

10. just imagine the shit-losing that would ensue if the arrow pointed the other way.

[City Lights]

13. I'm not a dude. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Okay

fixed, sorry.

[Skinner]

17. Rofl.

Funniest post I've read here in a long time.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. It would be "Saul Alinsky, Arrow-ghazi" all the time.

you know I'm right.

[misterhighwasted]

28. ROFL

Thats funny

[freshwest]

39. OMG! His head must be exploding all over the EIB microphone! ACK! Serves ya right, ya hellbeast. n/t

[DesertRat]

50. LOL

Arrow-Ghazi!

[CTyankee]

23. Oh, that'll be the GOP's candidate's avatar...

[NYC Liberal]

74. "An arrow pointing BACKWARDS?! Clearly Hillary wants to take us BACK to the Bush years!"

[notadmblnd]

14. well then, maybe conservative women will see the same and decide to vote for her?

[City Lights]

16. Perhaps. Time will tell. nt

[LiberalElite]

31. and maybe they'll offset the liberals who don't nt

[notadmblnd]

33. we'll have to wait and see

[marym625]

82. Some Republicans have already said they have no problem with a Hillary Clinton presidency

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

169. Is there a clown car link to that?

[marym625]

171. Here

Are a couple quick links

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/22/newt-s-kind-words-for-president-hillary.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026395911


The DU post has more links for you. Both Gingrich and Kissinger have stated they wouldn't have a problem with Hillary Clinton as president

[leveymg]

21. Perfect symbol for her campaign. That's the direction she wants to drag the Party and the country.

[peacebird]

57. Nice RED arrow pointing rightward to soothe conservative female folk....

[leveymg]

69. Maybe Jeb will have a nice BLUE arrow pointing leftward. Both pointing to the center. Matched set.

[peacebird]

71. Probably will. I think as little of him as I do HRC. They're a matched set really.

[marym625]

84. I do have to admit

She is much smarter. But otherwise, I am with you

[MissDeeds]

76. Yeah, I noticed that

Red arrow facing right. Gotcha Hillary, as if we needed more proof.

[alcibiades_mystery]

129. Red, white, and blue in a candidate logo!!! Horrendous neoliberalism at its worst!

[BainsBane]

111. Not everyone wants to take the country back to 1960

[hlthe2b]

27. I knew that was coming....

[JDPriestly]

38. Me too.

[ScreamingMeemie]

42. I really can't believe they wouldn't have thought this out a bit better.

Symbolism is everything, and that's the first thing that came to my mind. I was shocked, thinking it was an anti-Hillary avatar to be honest.

[ronnykmarshall]

43. Aye Dios!

What a load.

[cui bono]

70. I've been seeing that move for a long time. n/t

[marym625]

81. fantastic response!

[treestar]

92. It's an "H"

with a little pizzazz is all

[appalachiablue]

102. That's what I see, move to the Right. (Also resembles a cool Michele Obama belt, kinda).

[BlueMTexpat]

150. Movement is apparently in the

eye of the beholder, LOL.

I see it as Hillary moving right, i.e., correctly or forward.

Those who want to put a "to the right" spin on this logo will do so, just as anyone who wants to impugn Hillary's candidacy will do so no matter what her logo is, or where it points, or whatever else there is about it. That's just part of trivia of the US political scene.

[bunnies]

67. Driving with you must be interesting if you see that and think "forward".

[City Lights]

73. LOL.

[notadmblnd]

103. I generally connect arrows with archery, not driving

but hey, if it gets you a laugh, I'm all for berating my driving.

[bunnies]

123. didnt mean to berate you.

[notadmblnd]

127. No, offence taken

seriously, don't feel bad.

I do ok driving forward, it's backing up I have a problem with

[bunnies]

128. Ha!

Me too. My back window has some sort of anti-glare coating which translates to: really blurry back window you cant see shit out of". I cross my fingers and dread the scream every time I put the car in reverse. Some things are universal I guess.

[notadmblnd]

131. lol.. yep some of my best work has been done backing up

I've backed up and knocked down mailboxes (3). I've backed into trees. Not too long ago I forgot my son's truck was behind me and just plowed into his truck in reverse. Most recent was a car parked on the street behind me. It was early in the morning and the car was already in bad shape, so when no one came out of the house, I just drove off.

[bunnies]

132. I backed into a fire hydrant with a stick reflector next to it.

punched a hexagonal shape right through my license plate (and car). The damn stick was on the OTHER side of the hydrant when I backed up. Would it kill someone to put a stick on both sides?

I also backed into a shitbox at the video store decades ago. He never would have noticed if I didnt go in and point it out. He laughed and said "have you looked at my car?" Almost made me want to ram it again just for fun on my way out.

[notadmblnd]

133. I've always wanted to drive in a demolition derby just to ram cars

had the opportunity once and my family wouldn't let me. That was the last time I took them to the county fair with me.

[bunnies]

134. Wouldnt that be amazing?!

At least once a day I wish I could. Oh... cut ME off? SMASH! Then Id have cotton candy. Win.

[notadmblnd]

158. cotton candy and doing the happy dance

what could be better?

[notadmblnd]

7. it means.....

The moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligned with Mars
now peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

everybody sing!

sorry folks, I couldn't help it.

[Phentex]

18. This made me smile...

[RKP5637]

98. One of my favorites!!! n/t

[sendero]

142. Everyone should understand..

.... that if the moon is in the Seventh (or any other) house, it's going to be there for a maximum of about 2 hours.

[notadmblnd]

157. lol

[AlbertCat]

178. Don't put it down..... best one around....

Crazy for red blue and white..... and yellow fringe.....

[RealityAdvocate]

34. Why?

[bravenak]

2. Is that for Hillary?

I think I like it.

[OKNancy]

6. Great... changing mine.

[rainmaker21]

176. It looks like a Hospital symbol with a red (Republican) arrow pointing right.

All the symbolism is subliminally negative for a democrat.

[William769]

8. Kick & highly recommended.

[freshwest]

11. Hey! You must be a Democrat or something! n/t

[sheshe2]

137. Sssssh!

Don't tell anyone! Yikes.



LOL~ Wonder if Skinner will get a hide here. Some do not like Democrats much.

[Hissyspit]

149. You can be a Democrat and still think the logo sucks.

That said, the graphics from the Obama team set the standards pretty high.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Um...

Honestly? It's not the best campaign logo I've seen.

Maybe minimalism is in, I don't know. I'm not always so good at predicting artistic trends.

[CTyankee]

26. It kinda resembles the Union Jack flag...weird...

[Warren DeMontague]

49. True. It's totally angular.

Now if she had stuck some sierpinski action in there, I would be more down.

[Fawke Em]

96. Or this:

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. Hey waiddaminute! Weren't you the guy that said The Knack would be the next Beatles?

1979. I think I remember

[lumberjack_jeff]

64. Agree.

"How about the letter 'H' with a forward arrow?"
"Great!"
"That'll be $80,000 please."

Is there a word for minimalism combined with clumsy unsubtlety?

[Warren DeMontague]

66. Geez, for that much, I would have at least put a nice photoshop bevel on the thing.

No one asked me.

[In_The_Wind]

19. I love it!

[Thinkingabout]

20. Well, Skinner, we have friends here, huh.

[Hekate]

68. Could be flypaper...

...for "The List"

I kid, I kid. Sorta.

[leveymg]

86. Perish the thought. But, doesn't the Internet serve that purpose in a larger

sense, particularly sites catering to political subterraneans? After Snowden, can there be any doubt why they call it, The Web?

Speaking of webs, I usually trap spiders with a wine glass and a piece of cardboard. A trace of wine at the bottom helps to calm them. I can attest to that. When they come to, they're safely outside on a forsythia bush. Hopefully, the spiders around here will return the favor.

[highplainsdem]

24. Thanks, Skinner!

[hrmjustin]

25. I love it skinner!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

30. Ah, my dear Skinner...

I like it, even though I am (so far) not pro-Hillary.

[Lyric]

32. Looks snazzy :)

I like mine too

[ScreamingMeemie]

35. I hope all do not jump on me for this, but I don't like it.

I will preface by saying I will vote for Hillary and not ever be ridiculously rude about her.

That said, they could have/should have done better than this.

I see:

"Hillary is to the Right of Center" --especially when you figure in the red arrow.

I'm sorry. I can't help it, but this was super ill-advised, and I'm not trying to be a poopyhead. I'm being completely honest.

[yardwork]

58. I'm thinking that the message is deliberate.

To win, the Democratic candidate must attract conservative Dema and Independentts. By combining the red and blue and putting an arrow pointing right, the campaign hopes to connect with those voters.

Whatever It takes. I don't want JEB in the White House.

[WilliamPitt]

36. The arrow is pointed in the correct direction, at least.

[ScreamingMeemie]

37. So it's not just me then.

[Dragonfli]

59. No, it is quite obvious, especially to those of us that enjoy symbolic graphic work as a hobby /nt

[BeanMusical]

44. Lol, it sure is.

[DeSwiss]

45. !

[progressoid]

46. Doh!

[Major Hogwash]

51. Geez, Hillary's campaign to become President has just started!

Her 15-year old campaign started back in 2000!!

[bvf]

55. An accident of written language and symbolism.

But good point.

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. Ouch. n/t

[MissDeeds]

78. Yes, and it is intentional

The HRC camp has had eight years to come up with ideas for this campaign, and none of this is accidental. It is meant to send a message, and it has. Buyer beware.

[onehandle]

93. Progressive is a forward direction. Quite true. Other declared candidates, take us down in flames.

Quite true.

[joshcryer]

94. Yes, it's quite well designed.

It should appeal to the broadest base possible, the diminutive interpretations won't work, despite the best tries.

The arrow is pointing forward.

The color is the historical color of the democrats and the left.

That's the symbolism they were going for.

[AtomicKitten]

109. Yep and not the least bit subtle.

[m-lekktor]

125. first thing i thought as well. very appropriate. nt

[NuclearDem]

148. Grab a piece of paper and a pencil.

Sit down and write a capital H.

[truebrit71]

173. Yup.

Sigh....

[cbayer]

40. Love it! Just watched her "Getting Started" video and it's a great start.

[JDPriestly]

41. Are you trying to tell those of us who do not support Hillary to leave?

What is it about Hillary's platform that you support?

Are you simply following the crowd and supporting her because she puts a D after her name or is there something specific that she has promised to support and do during her hoped for presidency that causes you to support her?

Anyway, what does she stand for when all is said and done?

[hrmjustin]

47. Where did he say that?

[Sheldon Cooper]

53. Yes, that's exactly what he's saying.

[KoKo]

88. Well...that would be interesting if true.

I hope Skinner will clarify. He did do a "Winky" ....but, I'm not savvy enough to figure which way he was going on that. He did say "My Avatar" so...I took it that he designed it. But, what was with the "Winky?"

[Sheldon Cooper]

91. What on earth do you need to have clarified?

He's a supporter of Hillary Clinton for President. He is in no way saying that you must support HC or leave the website, which was the question asked by the person I responded to. I don't understand what is so baffling about his post.

[NYC Liberal]

79. "Anyway, what does she stand for when all is said and done?"

She stands for supporting the working and middle-class of this country.
She stands for equal rights for all.
She stands for choice.
She stands for the right to health care.
She stands for millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share in taxes.
She stands for protecting society from gun nuts.
She stands for Social Security.
She stands for immigrants.

She stands for everything Democrats, and liberals, believe in.

That's why Elizabeth Warren thinks she is "terrific."
That's why other progressives like Howard Dean and Al Franken support her.

It's why I support her.

[JDPriestly]

139. Does she also stand for the TPP? for the repea of Glass-Stegall? For sundry wars?

For more H1-B visas? For unaffordable college costs? And unaffordable pre-school tuition? What does she stand for that hasn't already been won?
Does she stand for a public option or single payer? Does she stand for better reforms in our financial sector? Does she stand for collecting taxes on profits earned by the sale of products made abroad in the US?

Of the issues of our time, what does she stand for?

The issues you addressed are issues of the past for the most part. A few of them are still in debate, but most have been decided. Not once and for all, perhaps, but decided. Where does she stand on today's issues?

[rpannier]

155. How does she

the list is nice, but there are no details provided especially on ones that I do think require specifics
1. How does she stand for working and middle class families? What has she done to prove this. - What did she do while on the board of Walmart, as US Senator, as prominent figure in the public eye. What specifics has she provided?

2. What is her definition of fair share?
- Nixon era taxes, Eisenhower era, what is fair share?

3. How does she plan on protecting us from gun nuts?
- Which laws does she plan on enacting? Is she going to reintroduce the laws her husband signed. For some baffling reason opposition to gun control laws has grown since the spate of shootings.
Honestly, that baffles me. Unless people are afraid they need to be armed in the event there is a shoot-out at the OK Movie Theater. I find i t odd.

4. How does she stand for immigrants?
- Does she support the expansion of H1B Visas

5. How does she support social security?
-What are her proposals for making it more solvent? Or is she just opposed to cutting it?

Does she support
Expanding US presence in the Middle East
(and no I did not forgive Kerry for voting for the invasion of Iraq either. It's why I didn't vote for him in the primaries. Nor did I vote for him in the general election. But that's kind of a non-issue. Illinois voter and he was gonna win Illinois. So, it was easy to claim the so-called high road)

Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, signed by her husband. The act which is partially responsible for the poor and unemployed getting access to benefits

the repeal of the Banking Act of 1933 aka Glass-Steagall signed by her husband

private charter schools


As to Warren, Dean and Franken... what do you expect them to say?

I am still waiting for Franken to do something about the slave labor conditions in Saipan that he found so deplorable in his book 'The Truth'. I have inquired and never gotten a straight answer from his office.
It would have been nice if Senator Franken had brought that up in 2009.

Howard Dean seems to be a supporter of Michelle Rhee. He got in a twit war with people over the issue of charter schools.
(i don't twitter cuz i think it's silly and ridiculous)

I'm going to wait and see who all throws their hat in the ring and decide which one best fits the qualities I want to see in a president. If it's Clinton, so be it. If it's O' Malley cool. We'll see.

[zappaman]

100. Or maybe she is the only announced Democrat.

You still clicking your wish shoes for Warren?

[JDPriestly]

140. Yes. But I am also on Bernie Sanders' team so far.

[Agschmid]

117. .

[alcibiades_mystery]

130. Embarrassing

[Cha]

143. Victim much? Maybe.. I dunno know.. just Maybe Skinner is saying that he is supporting Hillary.

End of story. If you don't know by now that he allows all kinds of bashing of President Obama on their site when he's an Obama supporter then you never will.

[Autumn]

52. Yeah to the right.

Wow.

[Agschmid]

119. The arrow points forward like many other well established logos...

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1671067/the-story-behind-the-famous-fedex-logo-and-why-it-works

[Autumn]

154. I just expected something a little more

"zazzy" and not fedexy

[Agschmid]

168. I get that.

This logo will be perfect for say an iPhone app though!

[progressoid]

54. International Harvester?

[Autumn]

56. Yeah that only turns to the right.

[Hekate]

61. Woo-hoo! Nice to see that right up front, Skinner!

I'm biding my time for another few minutes

[Warren DeMontague]

62. I would have gone with a 3-headed dragon.

"The seven kingdoms needs a ruler loved by millions, with a powerful army, and the right family name"

[yallerdawg]

63. What about "Here is Hillary...

and everyone else is to the right?"

[Triana]

72. . . .

[freshwest]

179. Shoe-Gate! She stole Wendy's running shoes! It'll be alright, LOL!

[Gothmog]

75. i like it

[onehandle]

77. Now you've done it. nt

[madinmaryland]

80. Oh fer fuck sakes...

[Agschmid]

120. Ok... but those biceps though.

Woof.

[El Supremo]

83. Hospital on the right?

I think it sucks.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

99. This way for broken Hips?

[hrmjustin]

110. That made me laugh.

[herding cats]

87. At least it's devoid of flames.

That trend on the right has been disturbing, to say the least.

[NV Whino]

89. Hell in a hand basket?

[SidDithers]

90. Kick and fucking rec...

Sid

[Snarkoleptic]

95. Let me try that on for size.

Hmmm, it fits. I'll take it!

[octoberlib]

97. Wikileaks is claiming she got it from them

Does the logo for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign look a bit too familiar?

One response was a tweet from media organization WikiLeaks, accusing Clinton's campaign of swiping their insignia. "Hillary Clinton has stolen our innovative WikiLeaks twitter logo design," reads a post from the organization's official Twitter page.

The tweet offered a side-by-side comparison of the logos. WikiLeaks' artwork features an hourglass with a dripping earth, along with a red arrow, while Clinton's shows a red arrow used to form a large "H."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wikileaks-hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-788140?utm_source=twitter


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[Warren DeMontague]

101. WHICH WIKILEAKS STOLE FROM...

BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!

[BainsBane]

113. Have they copyrighted arrows?

How ridiculously narcissistic of them.

[octoberlib]

115. I thought the same. It's stupid.

[tammywammy]

121. +1

[freshwest]

180. They must be running low on funds. They'll sue for copyright infringement as open data heroes. n/t

[BainsBane]

183. They'll have to get in line beyond

the this way to the hospital people.

[freshwest]

184. Behind Cuba. Looks like their flag:

[GusBob]

105. Thank you, Sir

Love it

[GeorgeGist]

106. Arrow's pointing Right.

[aspirant]

107. Have a different view

The 2 blue rectangles symbolize the true democratic pathway and the red Repub right-pointing arrow shows how they just walk right over us.

[hay rick]

108. Unrec.

[BainsBane]

112. That must mean you stand with the 1% and Goldman Sachs

and want the "forever war," so I have been told repeatedly when I've failed to denounce Hillary Clinton. Whatever will the keyboard intelligentsia do now that you've turned to the dark side?

[MannyGoldstein]

114. Well... what's Hillary's track record?

"By their fruits ye shall know them."

[BainsBane]

136. I'll take hers over yours

any day. Included in that track record is the only sustained effort in US history to implement single payer healthcare. She's also been committed to Democratic policies since she was young, and has worked hard for women's rights around the world. That is of course all the more reason for reactionaries to oppose her.

[MannyGoldstein]

146. HillaryCare wasn't single payer. But is Medicare?

And I was against starting the Iraq War which killed a million or so people.

[sheshe2]

138. Ask Skinner....

It is his Op~

[sheshe2]

122. Gawd Damn!

Skinner is being so divisive on a Democratic Board! He supports Hillary???? Supported Obama as well????

Holy Shit, who knew people actually supported Democrats on a Democratic board.

Thank you Skinner!

[hrmjustin]

124. He must repent now!

[Agschmid]

116. Kick, nice choice.

[hrmjustin]

126. You have sinned grievously and must now repent!

Have you no shame sir!

[pinto]

135. +1

[muriel_volestrangler]

144. But - everyone knows it's compulsory to have flames in your 2016 logo!

whether it's a burning American flag:



a subtle reference to Rand Paul's unusual hair - soon to be on fire?



or the Jeb (pronounced 'Heb') Bush logo excitingly previewed by TBogg:



Many more on the TBogg page:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/your-world-is-on-fire-your-guide-to-2016-gop-nominee-flaming-campaign-logos/

(including a classic Palin one, but I think he deserves the traffic, so go there to see it).

[Liberalynn]

147. OMG

Just spit coffee on my Kindle and I'm not even upset about it. Laughing too hard.

[freshwest]

181. I remember TBogg from somewhere. Those are great. Especially the Jeb one. n/t

[PeaceNikki]

185. lol @ "Jeb (pronounced 'Heb')"

[Cha]

145. WikiLeaks is Right Wing! "Red Arrow pointing to the Right!"..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026497049#post7

[IronLionZion]

151. So it's about time! We can finally throw Skinner under the bus?

[rpannier]

156. Having any opinion on any of the candidates

seems to invite derision, scorn and/or adulation, cheering

I'm not sure what the rush is unless you've been a Clinton supporter all along
I find the whole thing silly at this point
But, it'll piss some people off and others will swell with pride.

I think no matter who else declares (or doesn't declare) it'll be met with the same basic responses
By the time the first caucus rolls around there will likely be 1000 buses with a myriad of corpses underneath

[IronLionZion]

161. Everyone's entitled to their opinion

but some folks get emotionally attached and worked up over what random people post on a forum. Whenever I get like that, I just avoid forums for a bit and I feel better.

[stonecutter357]

153. K&R!

[MineralMan]

159. It looks like a good logo to me.

A forward arrow superimposed on an "H" for Hillary. Simple, clean and memorable.

It's interesting to see all of the interpretations of it from those who oppose her candidacy. Primary season is going to be very interesting, it seems.

[NorthCarolina]

160. The arrow is red and pointing to the right

so I guess it's pretty accurate. I appreciate your honesty!

[Capt. Obvious]

162. I couldn't find it in the avatar list

[Skinner]

163. Look under "Slogans" (nt)

[Capt. Obvious]

164. Thanks

[muriel_volestrangler]

186. Would 'slogans and logos' be a better description of that section?

It was one of the last places I looked for that logo, since I thought 'well, it's obviously not a slogan ...'. There are many things there I'd never think of as a 'slogan' - rainbow flag, Democratic donkeys, and many more.

[madokie]

165. Its a good thing you own this place

otherwise you'd be tared and feathered and rode out of town on a rail

Personally I like it

[Dawgs]

166. Prosense speaks!

[George II]

167. It's good. And to those nitpickers who are perturbed that it points "right".....

.....what direction do racecars face in the front stretch? What direction do racehorses run in the homestretch?

It's pointing FORWARD to me.

[KamaAina]

170. Et tu, Skinner?

[Scurrilous]

174. K & R

[truebrit71]

175. Must be that whole "truth in advertising" thing...

"Hillary is moving right"....

[calimary]

177. Like it!

Lately, I've heard this joke running through the back of my head - whenever I hear or see somebody waffling around about how they can't vote for Hillary, won't vote for Hillary, they want that other person over there who seems perfect but she doesn't want to run, or he wants to run but doesn't have the big push or machinery behind him.

The joke (and you've undoubtedly heard it) is about the guy stranded on his rooftop while the floodwaters are rising, rather ominously. He prays to God. "PLEASE RESCUE ME, OH LORD! DELIVER ME FROM THE FLOODWATERS!"
And a boat comes by - "hey dude! Get on! Let's get you to safety!"
Man on roof: "Oh NO! The LORD will save me!" "SAVE ME DEAR GOD!"
And another boat comes by, fire department. "HEY! YOU on the roof! HERE! Get onboard! HURRY!!!"
Man on roof: "NO! My LORD is going to save me! I trust in GOD!" PLEASE DEAR GOD! SAVE ME!!!"
And soon there's a police chopper hovering overhead. They holler down with their megaphone: "SIR! HEY! We're lowering a ladder! Grab a hold! We'll airlift you outta there!"
Man on roof: "Oh NO! Thanks but NO! My GOD will save me! GOD WILL SAVE ME! I BELIEVE!!!!" "DEAR LORD! SAVE ME!"
And the floodwaters rise. And he's swept off the roof and drowns.
Man gets to the Pearly Gates. Can't believe where he wound up. What the heck happened? "Dear God, why didn't you come? Why weren't you there? I called upon you repeatedly and believed! Why didn't you come save me?"
The Lord: "Hey, what are you talking about??? For Heaven's sake, I sent two boats and a helicopter!"

calimary's moral-of-the-story: Hey, here's a shot at two boats and a helicopter. Grab a hold and get off the roof before the GOP floodwaters drown you! HERE'S your rescue, whether you recognize it or not. It's not The Lord. It's not the perfect rescue you prayed for. But it's a way out of danger, forcryingoutloud. We should grab WHAT'S THERE. We need to dance with WHAT'S THERE. If we wait around for the perfect, for the perfect rescue, the perfect dancing partner, the perfect ANYTHING (or rather - WHAT WE THINK is the perfect fill-in-the-blank-here), that will leave the way open for the bad guys to sweep into the White House again.

I guarantee - those who waited or held out will NOT like the results they get, if THAT scenario happens. GUARANTEED. ABSOLUTELY ROCK-SOLID CAST-IN-BRONZE-WITH-CONCRETE-FOOTINGS GUARANTEED.

[freshwest]

182. Ah, I remember a longer, sharper version of that joke. But when the guy whines again, God says:

"What'd you expect, the Queen Mary?"

And then the guy drowns.

IOW, we need to help each other.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

187. Hmmmm

NT

[Cali_Democrat]

188. K&R

LOLZ