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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:52 AM Apr 2015

What the Hillary Leading Among Dem Reveals about How People Wiew Politics.

For, unfortunely, the vast majority of people, no matters how a candidate can be most sincere on his/her ideals, the most important is the Popularity/Charisma factors.

in nowadays Image and Appearences dictatorship, persons like, say, John Kerry, Élizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders have only few chance on mass "love " context?
Why? Because as really liberal as they might be, as good characrers as they might also, they have so called no- (mainstream wanted ) charisma.
The only success exception is Obama. He is a real lefty... but more important he is at easr with crowds. Thats why it worked . And a major plus... he is aldo mainstream wanted beautifull.

That tells a lot about current state of politics.

Now to win, no matter your true character as a human beeing or your real ideal. Since you are "charismatic" , and if yoy add to that a good name recognition, well you will win.... you almost dont have to fight as hard as others.

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What the Hillary Leading Among Dem Reveals about How People Wiew Politics. (Original Post) mylye2222 Apr 2015 OP
Actually I think it is a comfort fact. A familiarity yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #1
You are correct Renew Deal Apr 2015 #2
funny...if obama is a real lefty beachbum bob Apr 2015 #3
This board makes me dizzy DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #4
Charisma is why Huckabee does as well as he does. He has a good personality and is likable. patricia92243 Apr 2015 #5
I seem to remember reading.............. 1939 Apr 2015 #6
Except for Carter over Ford DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #7
Kerry was taller than bush too mylye2222 Apr 2015 #8
Gore was taller than him too./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #9
a real lefty Doctor_J Apr 2015 #10
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Actually I think it is a comfort fact. A familiarity
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:55 AM
Apr 2015

Of knowing a candidate. In 2008, the country was desperate for change but typically they go with comfort.

Renew Deal

(81,870 posts)
2. You are correct
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

Bu this doesn't just happen in the US. Recently in Israel the criticism of Herzog was that he wasn't prime ministerial enough.

Part of it is that you have to look the part. That's why a Kucinich, Ron Paul, Sanders, etc can't win. I think Warren could win. She's like Obama in some ways. Charismatic, comfortable with crowds, knowledgable about the issues, etc. But she doesn't have the big ego and so she doesn't try.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. funny...if obama is a real lefty
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:11 AM
Apr 2015

As for you general view, politics has ALWAYS been about appearances and now all is being driven by money......the extreme fringe CAN NOT be elected....idealist can cost elections as we saw in 2000 when nader supporters gave America 8 yrs of Bush....

some people may not like hillary, but she is a winner that will beat any gop candidate while people like warren, sanders and who ever else has no chance to win


my hope is for a hillary-warren ticket...al female ticket that covers the spectrum for democrats, liberals, and progressives.....we have to save our money for fight for congress, to retake it from conservatives and rid our country of their influence at the national level once and for all

in-fighting only helps them, the Koch brothers and foxnews.......

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
4. This board makes me dizzy
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:20 AM
Apr 2015
"The only success exception is Obama. He is a real lefty."

-DU member



"He (Obama) ran as one, governed as a conservative."


-DU member



On the same day...We really need to come up with some rough definition of who is what or we are going to just talk past one another.

patricia92243

(12,598 posts)
5. Charisma is why Huckabee does as well as he does. He has a good personality and is likable.
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:39 AM
Apr 2015

When you actually listen to what he says, it is a bunch of bologna as we all know.

1939

(1,683 posts)
6. I seem to remember reading..............
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:07 AM
Apr 2015

Don't ask me for a link, but i remember having read somewhere that the taller of the candidates is more likely to win the presidential election over the past two hundred plus years.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. a real lefty
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:27 AM
Apr 2015


Tell that to jamie dimon or the insurance executives or the parents of the children killed by drone strikes or those whose drinking water is full of fracking chemicals.
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