I just DIED LAUGHING

[XemaSab]

[L0oniX]

1. K & R

[merrily]

2. SHE'S NOT RUNNING!

Just thought I'd join the crowd, for once.

[Dawgs]

5. That's why the url begins with "draft".

[merrily]

6. yes, I know.

[bvar22]

10. It was a joke.

You'll probably see why later in this thread.

[snooper2]

11. Could you start a draft to get me on the Dallas Cowboys?

Running back please!

[Chellee]

38. I'm on it.

www.draftsnooper2fortheDallasCowboysrunningbackpleasehe'dbesupergoodprobably.org

[tazkcmo]

76. Not smart.

You have to think this through. First, running back? You'll get hurt silly! Large and strong men lift weights all day and practice trying to kill running backs. Second, for the Cowboys? You have a problem with post season bonuses? You want to be the back up punter for the Seahawks or Patriots. Safe and pays well. Good luck.

[A Simple Game]

13. Best news I've heard in a week. Spread the word, Hillary's not running!

Smart move on her part with the polls showing her dropping like a stone.

[merrily]

39. You won't let me play with the cool kids, even one time? I'm telling!

[donnasgirl]

15. She does say that,

but she is still going to receive my vote, I will write her in. I know I will catch hell from some people here but I simply will not and can not back a Corporatist in any way shape or form.

[merrily]

37. I don't know why anyone would complain about writing in a Dem in a Dem primary.

A couple of days ago, a relative said she was writing in Warren, too. (My whole family is Democratic, except for one member of the younger generation. We can't figure out why he strayed.)

I forgot to ask her whether she meant the primary or the general. She doesn't post here, so DU rules do not apply to her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6485759

[JimDandy]

79. That's what I've decided

to do also.

[Marr]

34. lol!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

3. lol ... Grey Poupon ,,, nicely done. eom

[mac56]

4. Can someone tell me the name of this background music?

[Brother Buzz]

9. Luigi Boccherini's Minuetto

[Cleita]

7. Is your zombie corpse posting now?

[XemaSab]

46. Me?

I've been on timeouts for fighting with AverageTroll, but I've never been banned.

[Cleita]

48. I'm joking. You said you DIED LAUGHING.

Never mind.

[XemaSab]

67. I get it

I thought you meant that I had gotten the pizza delivery, yaknow?

[yuiyoshida]

8. Well he

Obviously didn't need any more Grey Poupon!

[bvar22]

12. DURec,

and closer to the truth than I would like to admit.

[Eleanors38]

14. Oh, that's ripe!

[Sienna86]

16. Love it.

I personally need a candidate who understands the middle class economic crunch, the struggles of families to pay college tuition, what a gallon of milk costs, and doesn't want us to get screwed by Wall Street and big banks. I need a candidate who inspires me.

[Cleita]

18. Did you see Elizabeth on Jon Stewart last night.

She touched on all those points clearly like she does. The audience was cheering her to the rafters every time she made a point. This woman's message is extremely popular and any candidate should be picking up on that.

[Enthusiast]

21. She would win the Democratic nomination and go on to win the general in a landslide.

Seriously.

[Cleita]

23. They would do something to her like the Dean scream to discredit her and make her

lose. I think she knows that and the fact that she's rallying people to the left may force the candidates we are forced to accept go to the left. If it's a strategy, it may work.

[Marr]

35. It'll only make them *talk* that way during primary season. /nt

[merrily]

40. Sadly, I agree I'm done voting for POTUS on the basis of campaign rhetoric.

Been there, done that, got the free T shirt (two, actually) and the Christmas cards from the White House. Though, a year or two after i stopped donating, I began getting the cheaper version. Now I get none.

Can't buy me love? Wrong!

[cui bono]

75. What the hell? I didn't get any T-shirts or Xmas cards.

Wonder if it has anything to do with me asking for my donation back...

[merrily]

80. I got two T shirts, two or three of the good cards and one or two of the cheaper ones.

I've given away the T shirts and I'm keeping the cards to make sure I don't forget again.

Otherwise, I'd try to make up for your not getting any.

[MaggieD]

32. Maybe, but she doesn't appear to want that

... and who could blame her?

[merrily]

42. I think she's had help not wanting it.

Who could blame her? Not I. But I wouldn't be a politician. Many politicians dream of being President.

[MaggieD]

49. I don't think Warren dreamed of being a politician

... let alone president.

[merrily]

50. I know you'll understand that I can't put any stock in someone's view of Warren's dreams.

However, I did not say many Harvard professors dream of being President. I said many politicians do.

At some point, Warren did obviously dream of being of a politician. And she is one, and a very popular one, whom many people have been begging to run for POTUS.

[MaggieD]

56. I could be wrong....

But somewhere in the back of my mind I thought I saw an interview with her where she said she never pictured herself in politics.

[merrily]

58. If she did say that, at some point, that changed.

[MaggieD]

61. Yes, clearly...

I think when she didn't get the CFP slot she was persuaded that running for senate was the only avenue to change open to her. But she has been pretty emphatic about not running for President. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat, of course.

But I cannot blame her for not wanting to due the run for (and win) the presidency. I am passionate about politics too, but I sure as hell would not want to be president. Sounds like 4/8 of hell to me.

[merrily]

62. We've gone full circle: I think she had help not wanting to run.

I think when she didn't get the CFP slot she was persuaded that running for senate was the only avenue to change open to her.

Only avenue? She had plenty of options other than politics.

[MaggieD]

64. Meh, there is no evidence to support that notion

At least I haven't seen any.

[merrily]

65. There is evidence that challengers to Hillary are not desired.

Also evidence that, in general, the party tries to avoid primaries.

There have been statements made by Schumer and Brown and an article written VandenHeuvel and others. Lots of comments from Sanders and others about a coronation, and so on.

I've posted some links on DU. You can search DU for them. Or google the net.

No evidence to support anything you've posted on this thread that I've seen, though.

Also, I think it's funny that someone who has been telling me what Warren's dreams and thoughts are and are not and who implies that people who claim Hillary is not economically liberal are probably sexist is all about proof, but only for posts made by others.

[MaggieD]

66. Again, I don't see evidence of that...

Just like the fact that Wall Street democrats donate to HRC doesn't mean she is not a champion for inequality.

Just like the fact that Bill believes something doesn't mean Hiliary shares his view.

Just like the fact that other democrats think other people should run in the primary doesn't mean HRC is "helping others to make a decision not to run."

And there is certainly no evidence that democrats don't like presidential primaries. They are historically robust except in the case that a sitting president is running for reelection.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

77. On Maher last night she made it absolutely clear, she aint running

Maher offered a million if she did

[Enthusiast]

22. We all need a candidate who inspires us. We should accept nothing less.

[MaggieD]

33. Like Obama inspired people?

[merrily]

44. Nothing is wrong with inspiring people. No doubt, Hillary will try to do that.

However: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026485056#post40

[Sienna86]

17. President Obama's campaign had many $5 and $10 donations.

Will the Clinton campaign see the same donations? Does it matter?

[tularetom]

25. Probably not and no

She's gonna get bazillions of bucks from her corporate buddies on Wall Street, and the MIC she tried to help out as SecOState, and the fanatical Israel supporters.

And then if elected, she's gonna turn around and push for policies that rein in Wall Street, the MIC and Israel.

And if you believe that,

[merrily]

47. That one's been bought and sold so often, it's shopworn. I have a shiny one for sale, with a view

of the Bunker Hill Monument to boot. It's evocative of the monument and of an open book, a history book, I imagine. Yet, it's very modern-looking, too. Any takers?

[demwing]

72. Wow, that's a shiny bridge, would you take a check?

Great, the check's in the mail

[merrily]

43. The big money is the soft money. The small donations and volunteering helps

keep peons like us invested in the campaign, so we vote and, hopefully, help GOTV.

And, cosmetically, it's certainly much better than all big donations and no volunteers.

[Enthusiast]

19. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Oh, baby!

[ashling]

20. If you died you can't vote*

*does not apply in all jurisdictions

[Lochloosa]

24. Damn..you put the little * thingy...

I was going to say you could in Florida..

[d_legendary1]

26. This is pretty good!

I know Hillary will be the only choice after everything is said and done, but damn this speaks to me on so many levels.

[Thespian2]

27. K & R

[Gamecock Lefty]

28. So Funny I Forgot to Laugh!

When Warren learns to utter a few more words other than "Wall Street Bad" then maybe she, too, can run for President!

[LiberalLovinLug]

29. ....

[MaggieD]

31. +1000

I'm not bashing Warren. But this video is bunk as far as I am concerned.

[stevenleser]

36. It is pretty pathetic. nt

[merrily]

51. On the plus side, she doesn't say things like "So Funny I Forgot to Laugh."

[MaggieD]

30. What, specifically, makes you believe HRC is not liberal on the issue of income inequality?

I feel like this is 2008 all over again, where lots of folks at DU described Obama as you wanted to see him rather than what he really was - which as we have seen is not super liberal, particularly on economic issues. I'm not bashing him, but during that campaign it was clear to me that HRC was much more liberal than he was/is.

I'd like to hear specifics on this issue from people. What evidence to you have that HRC is not a liberal on the issue of income inequality? It seems to me that lots of folks just conflate her views with Bill's when in reality she has always been much more liberal than him.

I'm willing to be wrong and listen to other viewpoints supported by evidence. But at first glance it seems sexist to me now and did back in 2008 that people conflate Bill's views with hers. She is definitely capable of independent thought (as one can clearly see if they read historical accounts of Bill Clinton's presidency).

[Savannahmann]

45. OK.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070_Page2.html

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/why-wall-street-loves-hillary-112782.html#.VSg8CvnF_50

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clintons-complex-corporate-ties-1424403002

http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/12/hillary-clinton-wall-streets-pick-2016/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/harold-meyerson-helping-hillary-clinton-stand-up-to-wall-street/2014/10/30/2765a1fa-604f-11e4-9f3a-7e28799e0549_story.html

Problem is, some of Clinton’s long-standing supporters run those big banks. On Monday, at a campaign stop in New York, the Democrats’ presumptive presidential front-runner rephrased. “Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America, where workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out.”

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/06/opinions/zelizer-democrats-vs-wall-street/

Any other questions?

http://fortune.com/2014/12/04/warren-buffett-hillary-clinton/

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-04/warren-buffett-bets-big-on-hillary-clinton

http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-didnt-realize-his-hillary-clinton-contribution-went-to-a-super-pac-2015-4

Billionaire Warren Buffett, a staunch critic of the power of super PACS in US politics, just admitted he didn't realize his $25,000 contribution to Ready for Hillary was helping fund a super PAC.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-didnt-realize-his-hillary-clinton-contribution-went-to-a-super-pac-2015-4#ixzz3WwXpZ311

Sure, Warren thought you could give $25,000 to any political campaign. Right? I mean, when you're used to dealing in billions, what's a few thousand between friends?

[merrily]

53. Wow. You did all that before asking her to prove a single sweeping claim she made?

And even though she kinds sorta implied anyone with your position had to be conflating her views with Bill's and therefore was sexist?

[MaggieD]

57. From my POV, the sweeping claim...

Seems to be in the OP, and I am respectfully asking where that meme comes from. All I got in response was a bunch of "wall street and Buffet donate to her."

Yeah, but just like they would to the campaign of any Democrat that gets the nomination or leads in the polling. Does that mean you won't vote for any Democrat in the general that Buffet or any person on Wall street donates to? Because it's inevitable.

[merrily]

59. There were several in your post.

[MaggieD]

63. Several what? Opinions?

Yes, clearly. Hopefully well delineated. As in "seems to me..."

it seems sexist to me now and did back in 2008 that people conflate Bill's views with hers.

So I am looking for evidence that HER views would lead someone to think she does not share the typical liberal view about income inequality (and not the views of people that donate to democrats). Everything I know about her history leads me to believe she is on the correct side of that issue. But like I said, I am willing to be convinced if someone can point to words or actions of hers that I might have missed.

And also, she is NOT Bill. And it's unfair to her for people to extrapolate things Clinton or thinks and conflate them her viewpoints. For instance, she is against the keystone pipeline and Bill is for it. They are two different people. What would you call the belief and assumption that she must share her husbands views on everything by default?

[MaggieD]

55. Well here is the thing about Buffet and Wall St....

Buffet is a Democrat and a billionaire. Same with lots of people on Wall St. They are going to support the Democrat who they think has the best chance of winning. Regardless of who it is.

So I wouldn't base my vote on who they support. And I wouldn't hold it against any Dem candidate either. Obama took a lot of money from unions, but he didn't do much to support them.

I am not convinced that HRC is some sort of right wing oligarch (all of the sudden, to boot) based on who donates to her campaign. That just doesn't make sense to me.

[m-lekktor]

41. haha. exactly! nt

[obxhead]

54. Yes!

LOVE IT!

[Stellar]

60. Love it! nt

[GoneFishin]

68. LMAO also.

[Autumn]

69. I just cross posted this in the EW group

Thanks, and I just died laughing

[RiverLover]

70. Almost missed this one! Huge R & K!!

Thanks for the LOL!

[MissDeeds]

71. Nailed it

K&R

[hifiguy]

73. Ba-ZAM!!

LOVE it!

[treestar]

74. how dumb

those two would vote Republican

[bowens43]

78. A republican or Hillary , it's a no lose situation for them.