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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:24 PM Apr 2015

The Democratic Party Powerstructures had Become Clintons' Unoffical Properties

And not since yesurday.
In 2004 DLC was lead by Terry McAuliffe a close Clintons friend. He failed securing the voters registrations and process regarding accountability in more than one State including crucial Ohio.
In 2008 the Party supported Clinton agqknst Obama President Obama in fact only won the nomination because he had hundred of thousands little donation and because the campaign rallied more peopke. His campaigning mode was a mass mouvement that worked. The sparty nontheless still plane d to nominate almost till last minute her but at last she finally retored from the race in favor of Obama.... and by doing this got State.
And now Hillary Clinton is INEVITABLE because, I am certain of it to the core, since she left State, her team managed succesfully to LOCK UP every Dem powerstructure, in turn every most powerfull donors on behalf of the Clintons.
That political, and mediatic system of constantly put Clintons at frontline since month lasted for months and therefore seared in Dem voters minds that....it was her or chaos.
All of this long dissent suppressing work led to nowadays situations when Clinton ctitics are underminded and where any challenger has close to zero chance to get recognition. Those possible challrngers are only spoken of in terms as "weak" etc.

Bravo for your internal Dem coup d'état , Clinton Team!

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The Democratic Party Powerstructures had Become Clintons' Unoffical Properties (Original Post) mylye2222 Apr 2015 OP
Give her a chance. She had every advantage before and blew it. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #1
Are you thinking it is smart to have Hillary? surround herself with the best? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #2
HRC is mostly serious mylye2222 Apr 2015 #3
Are you going with the typical talking points or have you looked at her life record? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #20
I have looked at her life. mylye2222 Apr 2015 #21
Did the documentary show where she advocated for Civil Rights? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #23
It showed about women rights fighting... mylye2222 Apr 2015 #24
I hope you read more of Hillary and know she has and will continue to fight for Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #26
and unicorns Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #18
Unrec. Nonsensical amateur analysis. Was McAuliffe a bad guy when he got the nomination for Kerry? FSogol Apr 2015 #4
Maybe . But... mylye2222 Apr 2015 #6
Don't forget, some of us live here in Virginia and watched party politics as they happened. FSogol Apr 2015 #7
Ahhhh I was expecting the usual labelling..... mylye2222 Apr 2015 #16
Do Jim Webb and Martin O'Malley believe that? No. Did Obama? No. FSogol Apr 2015 #19
The same is true here in deep red Texas Gothmog Apr 2015 #30
Yes, so much so that Hillary didn't win the nomination in 2008. Oops! nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #5
Awesome power.........not FSogol Apr 2015 #9
This is the same OP who claimed Hillary supporters control DU. stevenleser Apr 2015 #11
Sssshhhh, don't make them mad! FSogol Apr 2015 #15
She losr only because Obama came late as the new star mylye2222 Apr 2015 #10
You're 0-2 for the last two OPs of yours I have seen. We Hillary supporters don't control DU either. stevenleser Apr 2015 #13
He had plenty of money and he caught on att the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in Iowa hrmjustin Apr 2015 #27
President Obama did not come "late". greatauntoftriplets Apr 2015 #29
What "powerstructures" has Clinton "locked up"? brooklynite Apr 2015 #8
Oh.... she didnt " wenr after" like any other candidate. mylye2222 Apr 2015 #14
Political figures actually like to win things... brooklynite Apr 2015 #17
I suspect that the Dems' power structure and the Clintons are all unofficially property. Orsino Apr 2015 #12
As a 2008 Obama supporter, I call bullshit on this. geek tragedy Apr 2015 #22
And Jesus Wept! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #25
Yep DURHAM D Apr 2015 #28
Many supporters want her because she is the best opportunity to win in 2016 Gothmog Apr 2015 #31
Oh FFS... SidDithers Apr 2015 #32
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
1. Give her a chance. She had every advantage before and blew it.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:31 PM
Apr 2015

She absolutely can blow it again, and it will be spectacular!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Are you thinking it is smart to have Hillary? surround herself with the best?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:35 PM
Apr 2015

I do, Hillary is serious about running, is serious about being the president of the US, this she does to serve the citizens of the US.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
3. HRC is mostly serious
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:41 PM
Apr 2015

About serving the Clintons and honoring the pact she passed with Bill decades ago, in Yale ( she would help him enter WH the it would be his turn to drive her into Oval Office), than serving The People.
Someone who is more interested to serving others diesnt grips that much on seeking candidacy .

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
21. I have looked at her life.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:32 PM
Apr 2015

And the story about her taste of power doesnt come from "RW" but from a documentary I saw on French very serious parlemental canal LCP ( La Chaine Parlementaire), called "Bill And Hillary".

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. Did the documentary show where she advocated for Civil Rights?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

Did the documentary show where she has advocated for women's rights?
Did the documentary show where she advocated for education for children?
Did the documentary show where she made a presentation to Congress for healthcare?
Did the documentary show where she pushed for the promotion of women at Walmart?
Did the documentary show where she pushed for "Buy America" at Walmart?
Did the documentary show where she march with LGBT?
Did the documentary show where she sponsored bills to increase minimum wages?

These are just a few of the issues she has worked to get.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
24. It showed about women rights fighting...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

And also about how she worked hard on the healthcare reform.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. I hope you read more of Hillary and know she has and will continue to fight for
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:58 PM
Apr 2015

Issues important to middle class citizens. This other dribble is just that, dribble.

FSogol

(45,506 posts)
4. Unrec. Nonsensical amateur analysis. Was McAuliffe a bad guy when he got the nomination for Kerry?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:41 PM
Apr 2015

From wiki:

In June 2000, as organizers of the 2000 Democratic National Convention (DNC) were scrambling to raise $7 million, McAuliffe was named chairman of the convention.

In February 2001, McAuliffe was elected chairman of the DNC, and served until February 2005. McAuliffe tried and failed to persuade his top rival, Maynard Jackson, to drop out of the race for chairman, but was still the heavy favorite. During his tenure, the DNC raised $578 million, and emerged from debt for the first time in its history.

In the period between the 2002 elections and the 2004 Democratic convention, the DNC rebuilt operations and intra-party alliances. McAuliffe worked to restructure the Democratic primary schedule, allowing Arizona, New Mexico, North Carolina and South Carolina to vote earlier; the move provided African-American and Hispanic communities greater power in presidential primaries. According to The Washington Post, the move bolstered United States Senator John Kerry's fund raising efforts.


 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
6. Maybe . But...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

Dont forget that most Wiki articles on politicians are written by contributors who in vast majority are supporter of those guys and want to cast a favorable light on them

FSogol

(45,506 posts)
7. Don't forget, some of us live here in Virginia and watched party politics as they happened.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:50 PM
Apr 2015

We didn't just fantasize events based on our hatred of one woman with 75% approval from our party who is considering a Presidential run.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
16. Ahhhh I was expecting the usual labelling.....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

Can you prove with facts and/or links that Dem Party is not controlled by Clintons people?

FSogol

(45,506 posts)
19. Do Jim Webb and Martin O'Malley believe that? No. Did Obama? No.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:10 PM
Apr 2015

I go to local party meetings. The majority supports HRC, but the Clintons aren't calling the shots.

PS: What label am I being accused of using?

Gothmog

(145,443 posts)
30. The same is true here in deep red Texas
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:05 PM
Apr 2015

Sec. Clinton has a great deal of support. I attend all of the county party meetings and a Senate District wide (20+ counties) summit/meeting/workshop and there is an overwhelming amount of support for HRC

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
10. She losr only because Obama came late as the new star
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:53 PM
Apr 2015

and that his rise was surprizing enough to destabilize thzir stategy.
Woukdnt have been the current president running at the time she would have won very highly.
Dont forget that Obama was then not funded by Dem Party.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. You're 0-2 for the last two OPs of yours I have seen. We Hillary supporters don't control DU either.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

You're analysis is way, WAY off.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
27. He had plenty of money and he caught on att the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner in Iowa
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:08 PM
Apr 2015

in mid 2007.

I know you don't like pushback from Hillary supporters but at least get your facts right.

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
8. What "powerstructures" has Clinton "locked up"?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:51 PM
Apr 2015

And how did she do it?

Showing an ability to win against any Republican perhaps?

Showing an ability to raise the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars a candidate will need to compete under the rules we can't change right now?

Having a politicial record that's popular with centrists and liberals (if not, perhaps, the DU intelligensia)?

Isn't the point of a political campaign to collect support? Are you suggesting that Sanders et al deserves support without going after it themselves?

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
14. Oh.... she didnt " wenr after" like any other candidate.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

Look... the name Clinton is so popukar she almost right now evend dont have to convince to win momination. She is Hillary Clinton and that is enough. There is no more beautifull, charismatic new star like Obama now.

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
17. Political figures actually like to win things...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

...you're naive if you think people are signing up solely because of her name. She's a hard-working, experienced, and very popular politician. All you need to do is find one of your own.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
12. I suspect that the Dems' power structure and the Clintons are all unofficially property.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

It shows much more than I am comfortable with.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. As a 2008 Obama supporter, I call bullshit on this.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:36 PM
Apr 2015

Clinton did better in primaries, Obama did better in caucuses.

Which pretty much refutes the argument that the 'party structure' was rigged for Clinton

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
25. And Jesus Wept!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

This is just ridiculous!

It is not Hillary's fault that she is in the lead for the nomination and others are having a hard time getting traction.

Gothmog

(145,443 posts)
31. Many supporters want her because she is the best opportunity to win in 2016
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

I like Sec. Clinton's accomplishments and I really want to make sure we control the SCOTUS nomination process.

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