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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:12 AM Apr 2015

Lincoln Chafee Explores Presidential Run as a Democrat

With no advance warning, the Democratic race for president got a surprise new contender on Thursday.

Lincoln Chafee, the former Rhode Island governor who has a strong relationship with President Obama, announced his news in a web video and in an interview with Rhode Island Public Radio.

In the video, Mr. Chafee says almost immediately that as a United States senator he voted against the Iraq war — something that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton supported. It was a position that was used against Mrs. Clinton in the Democratic primary leading up to the 2008 election against Mr. Obama.

“I would argue the decision to invade Iraq has destabilized” the Middle East, Mr. Chafee says in the video.

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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/04/09/lincoln-chafee-explores-presidential-run-as-a-democrat/

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Lincoln Chafee Explores Presidential Run as a Democrat (Original Post) cali Apr 2015 OP
Very worthy of consideration. Hope he does it. Nt Ninga Apr 2015 #1
He's a decent guy... MANative Apr 2015 #2
His record is pretty damned progressive: cali Apr 2015 #3
Voted for CAFTA while Hillary voted against it. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #12
I did the work of linking his ADA vote by year DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #22
He's closer to progressive than 99 Percent of our current "progressive" lineup. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #9
I like him but seriously, he needs to work on bringing the republican Autumn Apr 2015 #4
Why shouldn't he? I think he should run as a dem and Bernie should run as a dem cali Apr 2015 #5
You know cali, had Chaffe become a Dem when he left the republican party Autumn Apr 2015 #10
Doesn't bother me anymore than Jim Jeffords becoming an I. cali Apr 2015 #13
Oh I am all for ANYBODY and everybody challenging Hillary. Autumn Apr 2015 #15
Why? He's a registered Dem now. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #8
Yet he was open about not voting for the Democrat in 2004. Instead wrote in a republican Autumn Apr 2015 #11
Yes he was, as I commented in another post here. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #14
THIS!!! YES THIS!!! ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #6
he'd be a good candidate bigtree Apr 2015 #7
Even as a republican his record was more liberal than most dems in the Senate cali Apr 2015 #17
If our only alternative to Clinton are former republicans and independents, then HELL YES! PassingFair Apr 2015 #16
Russ Feingold bigtree Apr 2015 #19
Sorry Chaffee is milk toast... Historic NY Apr 2015 #18
He lost in 2006 as part of the Midterm Sweepout of Republicans. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #20
He had the gumption to stand up and vote NO on IWR PassingFair Apr 2015 #21
I'm glad he's thinking about this. mmonk Apr 2015 #23

MANative

(4,112 posts)
2. He's a decent guy...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:24 AM
Apr 2015

but another "Dem" who's a convert because the Republicans just got far too crazy. From what I know about him - and it's admittedly surface knowledge and hearsay from my relatives who live in RI - he's not anything close to progressive.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. His record is pretty damned progressive:
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:32 AM
Apr 2015

Voted against the IWR. Consistently against tax cuts for the wealthy. voted against drilling in ANWR. Consistently voted for increase in the minimum wage. Supports abortion rights. Has long supported (prior to President Obama, for instance) marriage equality. Supports gun control. Supports affirmative action. Opposes the Death Penalty. Opposed Alito. Supports J Street rather than AIPAC.

On the other hand, he's been supportive of FTAs.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. I like him but seriously, he needs to work on bringing the republican
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

party back to sanity. Please don't run as a democrat, please.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
10. You know cali, had Chaffe become a Dem when he left the republican party
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:42 AM
Apr 2015

I wouldn't be so cynical. It just seems opportunistic to me. A republican who leaves their party to become an Independent because their party has become bat shit insane then mulls becoming a Democrat to run for President leaves me leery.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. Doesn't bother me anymore than Jim Jeffords becoming an I.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

and I think we need more people challenging Hillary.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
8. Why? He's a registered Dem now.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

He has been. He left the Rs for I...then registered as a D. I'd LOVE to see him run as a D, and I'd actually knock on doors again and get physically involved, which is something I haven't done since 2004.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
11. Yet he was open about not voting for the Democrat in 2004. Instead wrote in a republican
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:45 AM
Apr 2015

bush's daddy

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
14. Yes he was, as I commented in another post here.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

While I hate that he wrote in Poppa Bush's name (I voted for Poppa Bush int hat election--sue me, I was an 18-year-old goofball), I love that he refused to follow the path the Rs were taking. That's a good thing in my book. His votes against the war in Iraq, his support of choice, gay marriage, the environment, income tax percentages and lifting the burden on the middle class more than do his speaking for him.

The plus side? Idiotic people (like myself when I voted for Poppa) will vote for him on name recognition.

Sorry, he's been more Dem than most Dems for more than 15 years now.

On edit: I think it was smart to wait until 2010 to register (after co-chairing Obamas relection campaign, mind you) as a Dem. I'm not super thrilled with "Democratic" decisions a lot of the time either. It's why I'm an Independent who has only ever voted Dem after that first stupid vote.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. THIS!!! YES THIS!!!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:37 AM
Apr 2015

I thought about opening up a discussion on him the other night and asking what Rhode Islanders thought about it. Mr Chafee co-chaired Obama's reelection campaign and was ridiculously liberal even as a Republican.

I love that he didn't vote for Bush the second time around, but hate that he wrote in a vote for Poppa.

Thanks for posting this! Day=MADE

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
7. he'd be a good candidate
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

...he's made many good legislative votes and decisions.

He'd differ from Hillary Clinton in his views on Israel and in his vote (only republican senator) against the IWR. Very strong on the environment.

Some 'splaining to do about his earlier affiliation with the republican party, but he's been decidedly Democratic in most of his legislative positions and votes since he switched parties.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. Even as a republican his record was more liberal than most dems in the Senate
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:51 AM
Apr 2015

The only Republican Senator more liberal than Chafee was Jeffords.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
16. If our only alternative to Clinton are former republicans and independents, then HELL YES!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:50 AM
Apr 2015

I could get behind Lincoln Chafee!

I am more than discouraged that amongst the hundreds of
prominent Dems, ZERO have thrown their hats into the ring.
It disturbs me that all are so reluctant to take on the dodgy Clinton dynasty.

I'm talking to you, Russ Feingold, Jan Schakowsky, Dick Durbin
Barbara Boxer, et al

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
18. Sorry Chaffee is milk toast...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

he lost to Sheldon Whitehouse in his last Senate race. He just seems a bit light in the gumption dept. His decision to switch parties was long and drawn out.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
20. He lost in 2006 as part of the Midterm Sweepout of Republicans.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:03 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:51 PM - Edit history (1)

He said in an interview at the time that he knew he and other Rs were going to lose their seats and that they deserved to lose their seats for not standing up against the direction the party was taking.

If he's in, I'm in.

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