What Kinds Of Activities Could You Refuse Under RFRA - Conscience Excuse.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The question is how many things could you refuse to participate in or discriminate for using your "religious freedom". Also what activities could you engage in based on your religious freedom even if it technically is NOT legal. . Curious about how far reaching religious excuses would be.

Refusing to serve LGBT people.
Refusing to serve divorcees.
Refusing to fly on the same plane with someone of another faith.j
Arranging marriages for daughters under the age of consent.
Genital mutilation (Some religious practices require it.)
Refusing to sit next to a woman in public who is NOT your wife.


These are just a few objections that go beyond just the gay issue. There are myriads of things people can claim religious freedom for.

The purpose of this OP is to find out what kinds of activities RFRA could expand to. What kind of can of worms has been released with such claims. I am sure there are many.

[ananda]

1. Refusal to serve women's health needs.

That's already happening, even though
birth control and the right to choose
are federally mandated.

Where's the outrage over this?

[KansDem]

2. I posted in another thread...

It's the business owner who wants his/her "religion freedom" to discriminate. But what about an employee of the business? If I'm working the counter of a bakery and have no need for "religious freedom," and a gay or lesbian couple comes in to order a cake, do I defer to the "religious freedom" of the business owner? Do I deny them their cake because of the business owners beliefs even though those beliefs are contrary to my beliefs?

And if this is the case, do employees need a "religious freedom law" to protect them for their employer's "religious freedom law?"

[dhol82]

4. I like that

What an interesting concept.

If you, as an employee, feel your religious freedom is negatively impacted by your employer can you sue to exercise your own rights or does your employment contract contravene your religious freedom?

Neat question. Wonder if anybody has an answer?

[2naSalit]

6. The ruling would

probably end up being in the employer's favor since they pay you to represent them at their place of business. But I'd love to see a test case just to see. A lot would depend on whether you could find counsel to take your case and then whether a court would take it up to hear it.

[dhol82]

7. Yeah

Because how does your employer's religious freedom supercede yours? Shouldn't there be workplace accommodations?

This could get to be fun.

Wonder if the ACLU might consider this interesting?

[2naSalit]

9. Good question...

which may be answered sooner than later, I hope.

[shraby]

3. It opens one of the biggest can of worms yet. My head hurts just thinking about it.

[safeinOhio]

5. Anyone that openly prays

in my restaurant gets tossed, if I had a one.

Hey go in the damn closet and lock the damn door.

[2naSalit]

8. I make claims protecting my religious rights

in uber-religious environments when a "thumper" gets on me about some of their beliefs or when they start making a fuss over something I am doing or not doing. If I'm in a place, like Idaho where there is a religious rights protection law, and someone insists that I comply with some religious edict or they want me to do something I object to, I tell them my religion prohibits my compliance. When they ask me what religion that would be, I tell them they have to right to inquire because it is MY right to not have to answer an illegal question of that type.