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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:38 AM Apr 2015

This Scrapyard Contains the World’s Second-Largest Air Force



The United States currently boasts 5,448 active aircraft, giving it the world's largest air force by far. Russia comes in second with what is generally estimated to be a bit less than half that number, but that's still fewer planes than America has stashed in its maintenance and regeneration facility. I visited what is affectionately known as "the Boneyard" at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona, to see what amounts to the world's second-largest air force.

"We have around 4,000 aircraft here," Public Affairs Officer Teresa Pittman told me, "though that number changes every day."

The Boneyard emerged after World War II as the stash spot for a massive surplus of planes. Some of them have been baking in the Arizona desert for over half a century. The perfect climate, as well as the dedicated work of the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group, keeps most of them in—or somewhere close to—flying condition. Now, in the wake of military withdrawals from Iraq and Afghanistan, the Boneyard is again crowded with aircraft waiting to be scrapped, mothballed, used for parts, turned into museum pieces, or sold to foreign allies.

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This Scrapyard Contains the World’s Second-Largest Air Force (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2015 OP
Yet somehow we have homeless and hungry people in the U.S.A.... hunter Apr 2015 #1
let's all stand up and salute abject waste KG Apr 2015 #2
it's very "functional" for the MIC: hey, they perfected cost-plus accounting and the saying MisterP Apr 2015 #14
I've taken a tour of Davis-Monthan. Lived in Tucson 1982-1986. sinkingfeeling Apr 2015 #3
The Boneyard is no 'air force'. It's no force at all. It's just junk. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #4
Precisely. Thank you for making the point. nt JayhawkSD Apr 2015 #9
The monument to the wasteful government spending spree known as the military industrial complex. Initech Apr 2015 #5
But don't you dare call it welfare. trotsky Apr 2015 #8
I call it "wasteful government spending". They hate that. Initech Apr 2015 #12
It is operated at a very considerable profit to the taxpayer. JayhawkSD Apr 2015 #10
it receives the aircraft for free onethatcares Apr 2015 #16
Well, they are free to the operation. JayhawkSD Apr 2015 #20
I understand there is a Tank Graveyard also packman Apr 2015 #6
I was just going to ask that. How many of these dumps do we have? jwirr Apr 2015 #18
What's even more amazing is how many aircrat have been there and been scrapped. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #7
They still use the aircraft there for parts sharp_stick Apr 2015 #11
It's not the only one... 2naSalit Apr 2015 #13
This makes me so mad...I want them to cut out seafood options for food stamps... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #15
Somewhere in that monument to futility and killing are some planes I worked on. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #17
Melt them down immediately ! nolabels Apr 2015 #19

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
14. it's very "functional" for the MIC: hey, they perfected cost-plus accounting and the saying
Reply to KG (Reply #2)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:46 PM
Apr 2015

"if it doesn't work, it's because SOMEONE ELSE lacked vision and didn't give us QUITE enough dinero"

we taxpayers didn't even get the "peace dividend": they fired tens of thousands of workers after the USSR caved and yet kept the same contracts! and then they blamed wimminfolk and violin classes and reading literature in schools for "America not respecting science no more"

Initech

(100,093 posts)
12. I call it "wasteful government spending". They hate that.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:15 AM
Apr 2015

They don't want to admit their side is the guilty party in that either. Even though they're the ones who are committing it.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. It is operated at a very considerable profit to the taxpayer.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:41 AM
Apr 2015

It disassembles those aircraft and sells parts and scrap metal. It also refurbishes and sells aircraft all over the world. And bear in mind that it receives the aircraft for free.

onethatcares

(16,178 posts)
16. it receives the aircraft for free
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

after taxpayers have sunk billions into designing, manufacturing, and flying them and one day we will see F35s in that junkyard too.

there is no such thing as "free" when it comes to military hardware, front door or back door. someone is farking the taxpayer.

Could I ask where you got your "considerable profit" figures? I just want to see for myself how much I made in aluminum cans last year.

thanks.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
20. Well, they are free to the operation.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:48 AM
Apr 2015

Yes, the taxpayer paid for many of them, but most of them were in service for many years and, whether you agree with their purpose or not, they served their nation before being retired at the end f useful lifetimes. The taxpayers did not pay for junk, it paid for useful aircarft.

And more than a third of the aircraft there were not paid for by the taxpayers at all, but were sent there by commercial operations and by other nations.

Any figures I have would be thirty years old and not very accurate. Several friends worked there and the only numbers I know of were that it took in more than three times in revenue what it cost to run it.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,372 posts)
7. What's even more amazing is how many aircrat have been there and been scrapped.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:27 AM
Apr 2015

Thousands and thousands of warplanes, from WW II to present. The numbers are mind boggling.

Here's a 9:25 vid on the facility;

https://m.



It has been said that Davis Monthan is the only US Air Force facility that actually turns a profit, via repurposing airframes and components.
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
17. Somewhere in that monument to futility and killing are some planes I worked on.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015

Sent there in 1963.

They were replaced by more efficient machines for killing people.

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
Gandhi

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