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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:34 PM Apr 2015

The Coming Gay-Marriage Ruling



The fight to bring marriage equality to all fifty states heads to the Supreme Court again later this month, with an extraordinary two and a half hours of oral argument set for the morning of Tuesday, April 28th. The four cases before the Court deal with marriage bans in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky, and Tennessee. But their potential repercussions are much broader.

Two years ago, the Court struck down the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in the landmark case of United States v. Windsor, where it held, in broad language, that Congress could not deny federal recognition to same-sex marriages performed in states that permit them. Now marriage-equality activists hope that the Court will extend the Windsor rationale and language into a rule that requires every state to allow gays to marry. Most observers expect that it will, and that the impact of such a ruling will eventually extend beyond marriage rights, transforming how gay Americans are perceived and reducing discrimination against them more broadly.



With the Court seemingly on the verge of an historic precedent, the selection of the lawyers for oral argument became a point of some contention among the many attorneys involved in the various cases.

During a confidential selection process that included a “moot-off” (essentially Supreme Court auditions), lawyers for all of the plaintiffs agreed on Mary Bonauto—who argued the first successful gay-marriage case, in Massachusetts, in 2003, and who has been one of the leading advocates for the cause since its inception—as their main advocate before the high court. She will argue on the central question framed by the Court: “Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex?” Although a leading advocate for marriage rights, Bonauto has never argued a case before the U.S. Supreme Court. She will tell the Justices that marriage restrictions deny gay Americans their right to equal protection of the law and that such statutes also deprive them of a core liberty protected by the due-process clause of the Constitution.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-coming-gay-marriage-ruling?intcid=mod-latest
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The Coming Gay-Marriage Ruling (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 OP
Really? This went to page 3 with no comments and only 109 reads?! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #1
Didn't see it before. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #2
Excuses, excuses! Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #3
I have a bad feeling about this. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #4
Some folks can only focus on one thing at a time... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #6
Yeah, but it is really depressing. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #7
KnR Hekate Apr 2015 #5
The only thing that concerns me about this case is that Roberts may try to write for the majority. tritsofme Apr 2015 #8
I'm trying to be optimistic, that Roberts will worry about his legacy... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #9

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
1. Really? This went to page 3 with no comments and only 109 reads?!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:21 AM
Apr 2015

This sends a real message.

Personally, I am pessimistically optimistic. "Expect the worst, hope for the best; you won't be surprised either way."

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
3. Excuses, excuses!
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:29 AM
Apr 2015


I know many likely didn't see it, but it just really bothers me because this could effectively provide an end to my marriage before my first anniversary. I know many are thinking this is a "slam dunk", but I just can't get on board with that mentality. "Oh Prop 8 will never pass, after all it is California!" Uh-huh.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. I have a bad feeling about this.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:35 AM
Apr 2015

I would love to think that this court wouldn't allow the states to decide something this important, but they haven't done much to inspire confidence.

This is about human rights, it should be a slam dunk.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. Some folks can only focus on one thing at a time...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:47 AM
Apr 2015

I am not saying I am some great exception but my posting history indicates I am interested in a potpourri of subjects of concerns to forward thinking people.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
7. Yeah, but it is really depressing.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:16 PM
Apr 2015

I don't know what will happen, but I know it will affect my life and millions of others.

tritsofme

(17,394 posts)
8. The only thing that concerns me about this case is that Roberts may try to write for the majority.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

Sensing inevitable defeat, Roberts may choose to write the opinion himself and narrow/water it down as much as he can.

I'm not sure how far he could push it, but such a scenario would not surprise me.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. I'm trying to be optimistic, that Roberts will worry about his legacy...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:27 PM
Apr 2015

and doesn't want to be on the wrong side of history...there are 5 votes for equality, I believe, three definite nos, and Roberts weighing his options.

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